BKR

Hello,
check the vid on our web site.

http://www.basik.fr/en/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=250&category_id=13&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=28

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It might be a genuine mistake, but is still the responsibility of the store to make things right. While the OP might be a little strong here, who sends an INVOICE and has the incorrect TOTAL? That to me is absurd and sloppy and if it were my business I would try to work with the buyer as opposed to asking them to understand their point of view.


The buyer shouldnt be fixing the sellers sloppy business practices, just my point of view

No invoice has been sent, it iwas just an automatic confirmation order sent by the web site. The invoice has been sent when goods were ready with the total amount INCLUDING the VAT. As I explained it was a bug in the English part of the web site concerning the way VAT has been calculated up to the situation of the buyer. I appologized for this problem.

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shoot a PM to BKR here, he is the owner, he is legit and a good person. He also has a good history of solving problems. I didn't go through all your post, but I bet he will get you a satisfactory answer.
edited to add : Jerome was faster than I was.
For VAT, if you purchase IN france, you have to pay it (similar to state tax when you purchase in same State in the US). If you purchased from another country it would have been different. As far as I remember, I always saw both prices quoted on his website (with and without tax) with a mention that the tax would be added on the invoice (IIRC)

This is true on the French speaking part of the web site, it has been forgoten in the English part. This customer live in France, Bordeaux..So he knows the rules.

Hi Jonathan,
what do you want exactly? To bash us, good try.
So as I have explained to you, you leave in France and you have to pay the VAT as any people living there. If you are from an EEC country you have to pay for it too. If you are from an EEC country with a valid VAT n° you are not charge for it. Let me explain one thing, all our customers LIVING IN FRANCE are ordering through the FRENCH part of the web site. Other customers are using the English speaking side.
So, my first mistake was to have not specify on the English part of the web site the way to deal with VAT because I never had to deal with such situation and even never think of this could happened. This is the reason why I have added this week the wording to have people be informed now. So I can just apologize for this mistake. Now as a person living in France you should be advised that VAT is added to any product prices if not I canot do anything for you.
The second mistake came from our side because the sale manager forgot to send to you the order confirmation as he mormaly does.
Let me tell you an last thing concerning your CC, it has even be denied for 50 euros when we went to take the deposit, so I think even without this VAT mistake there is a lot of chance for us to never been paid.
Sorry for my English but I wish you could understand the situation.

Regards

Just flaps design and configuration

The label still on cat C23-b on the Sigma...unless they change it..

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Vector3's Wonderhogs are still under 23b I believe.

I assembled and packed a brand-new one a couple days ago.
Mark

Hi Mark, was it a regular Wonderhog or a Wonderhog Micron ?

Not Micron but Sprint for the Wonderhog

We are using them since years and we do not have problems with. But up to some colors and quality webbings the spring can affect a bit the webbing after many jumps.

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here are several photos of our reserve pilot chute in action.

Why don't you tell us what is unique about your pilot chute, compared to a normal one, that makes you promote it as better.

Easy to understand, several keys.
- Strong spring (50 lbs compression)
- No side flaps which delayed the launch of the pilot chute
- Reserve container design at the lower corners level

What is funny to know is when the patent has been made. It is almost at the same time UPT and Basik been ready to introduce this innovation, 2006. This patent has no right at all because it has been used on a lot of different equipements before, like phone pouch and even toggles on risers..

I know the original song since years but as Kallend said there is more than that. I have both songs but not the lyrics of the Freak. Thanks

Hello, one of you have the song's lyrics? Not easy to understand all of it for me.
Thanks

Hello all,

here are several photos of our reserve pilot chute in action. This reserve has been packed 11 months and 10 days ago .What else to say...

They do not say they WROTE it...It is just the interpretation of the business between the lines

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Hi Rob
Show me the paper from the FAA saying they are allowing this

AC-105-2C..Section 11

BS,
MEL

Hi Mel,

this only show how it must be assembled and I agree with this. But it doesn't show the requirements of paragraph 5.1 of the AS. Each individual component (H/C or canopy) must have been tested together to be allowed to be used together. Then when tested they must be assembled following the AC-105-2C..Section 11 . So one step is missing..

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The FAA allows Master Riggers some leeway to "mix and match components with similar TSOs" but some of the combinations I have seen are profoundly STUPID!
... er ... take three times longer than normal to pack.

Hi Rob
Show me the paper from the FAA saying they are allowing this

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... there are some tight fucking rigs around here. ...

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Agreed!

When you change pack density, you change a lot of variables around d-bag extraction forces.
When you pack a larger reserve into a container - than the manufacturer ever tested - you become a test jumper.
You stand alone in court.
Good luck!.

None of the manufacturers have tested all reserve allowed in their containers. None of the reserve canopy manufacturers have tested their canopies into the existing containers. None of the manufacturers follow the 5.1 paragraph of the AS 8015/B.
So this meant most of all the equipements in the field are not allowed to be used. Funny??, NO

Nobody talk about this, WHY??

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Think about a horse shoe situation, take your time to do so and let me know which system will give you more chance to save yourself, good question, no??

OK, I've been thinking but I'm not sure that I see what you're saying... is it that perhaps, if you cutaway in that instance (without disconnecting the RSL/Skyhook) then with a Skyhook, the reserve bridle being pulled out almost simultaneously with the pin, could somehow inhibit the reserve PC launch?
So then with the main still attached to you at some point you could then end up with a further horseshoe with the reserve or a PC in tow or something? Shouldn't the combined drag of all that crap (with the reserve bridle as well) pull the freebag off and allow the reserve to deploy?

You got it. Skyhook = opening the reserve container and everything still connected. RSL= opening the reserve container and that's all. So with RSL you have a chance that the reserve deployment could go through the whole mess. With the Skyhook you are in a very deeper mess.

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But couldn't there could eventually be a situation where for one reason or another, after having followed all the rules, you might still end up with a bad canopy under your hard deck... and if that did occur, depending on the situation, you might elect to take your chances with the Skyhook rather than risk deploying the reserve into the bad main?

I'm not wanting to nominate particular altitudes, but surely if the same hypothetical situation was encountered with an RSL instead of a Skyhook, you could have less options available to you?

Just to be clear - I have a Skyhook, and my plan is to cut away well above my hard deck if I have to. I'm just wondering what others thoughts are and certainly have no plans to lower my hard deck based on advice received in an internet forum. ;)

Think about a horse shoe situation, take your time to do so and let me know which system will give you more chance to save yourself, good question, no??

Yes and very popular. The opening system is just a pull out.

Hi Drew,

go to Chuting Star, I cannot cut their sales. Our delivery time is between 6-8 weeks at the moment.

Ask Mike Gruwell for such questions and you will have the answers.

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Mike is a well known rigger but he cant help every jumper in the US with your rig.


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Do you think all riggers are aware and familiar even with all US made rigs, I doubt about this.

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I think that good riggers are familiar with the rigs that that are on their DZ. unfortunately for you you really dont have any over here.
I think that people end up buying a rig that is not only popular with the other jumpers at their DZ, but what their riggers recommend.

This is right and you must understand it is more easy for a US manufacturer to show and explain to a US rigger what is good for them.
Im not saying you have a bad rig. Just saying that it will be a pain and a long wait for people if there are major fit issues or a
manufacturing defect that made it past your quality control. Dont tell me that will never happen. It happens to all manufactures,
that is why riggers inspect brand new rigs when they first put them together for people.

I agree and this is exactly what I said when US rigs come to EEC and have issues. It is manageable if you are well organized.

Take the Atom for instance. The only ones you see in the US are the ones the European jumpers bring over. They are a really good rig,
but your not going to find to many US jumpers buying them. They are not familiar with them and don't know enough to trust or not trust
them.

Big difference Zodiac or PdF doesn't want to sell in the US.
You may make the best rig in the world, but I dont think you will do very well in the US, unless you open a shop here and get them
out to DZ's so jumpers can demo them and see that they are as great as you say they are. Good luck though.

I have been working to open a company there, but we are small and do not have enough money to invest in this project unless you want to invest into
Basik.I know we will never sell a lot in the US till we do not put millions$ there. I just want to sell a few to start and to let people know we are in the market too.

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We sell around the World and we do not have any problem to deal with. Look, what about EEC customers buying rigs from US manufacturers,
how do you think they are dealing with it??

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After 3 years of selling gear at SQ1...if a person was buying a US made rig from Overseas. They had already seen and demo'd that type
of rig on a trip to the US. The majority of them also came here to pick them up. A lot more europeans come here then US jumpers going
there. Can we demo your rig? DO you have them available at gear stores for people to jump them and make a decision based on there own
experience with the fit, comfort and most of safety of the rig? Might help your cause if you could make that happen..

I agree again, we just try to do our best with the money we have. But one day the USD$ will rise and then US gear will be so expensive
than non US skydivers will not be able to buy them.

I agree with all your comments but as a small company own by a poor man (myself) this is not easy.

All the rigs with flaps are extracting reserve slower thank a rig without flaps, this make sens. Look, everybody know that exposed pilot chute are faster on the first extracting step. As more flaps you have as more time you will need to have the bag to leave the container. Then if the shape of the tray is not perfect it can slow down the extracting process, then if your PC is weak like a lot of PC are, the time will increased. If your PC like UPT one and ours are very strong you decrease the extracting time, this make sens too. I have a lot of datas and videos but they are not for public. But I can show how the PC launch on our Seven or ask Mike, he knows about it.

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One thing to consider is that the manufacture is out of the US. Your profile says you are in the US.

I would be worries about rigger here being familiar with it. If you need repairs or when you need a repack. I would want to use a rig that my rigger knows everything about. You may also end up spending a lot more for shipping and things like that when buying and what if you have to send it back if they build it wrong. Lot of hassle

Ask Mike Gruwell for such questions and you will have the answers. Do you think all riggers are aware and familiar even with all US made rigs, I doubt about this.
At the moment the exchange rate seems to be better than 1 year ago and the price Mike can give you is including all this.
We sell around the World and we do not have any problem to deal with. Look, what about EEC customers buying rigs from US manufacturers, how do you think they are dealing with it??

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Thanks for your quick reply Jerome. I tend to agree with you that simple is often best.

And for the record I think your rigs looks great, don't waste your time on the website.

Let me know if you need more infos. Waisting time, no I do not think, people must know we are existing and there are other good companies other than the very well knowed top major ones.