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Posts posted by Andy9o8

  1. billvon

    > your point, residential being picked on unfairly.

    That's the thing. They're not even putting restrictions on anyone yet - just upgrading meters so if they have to they can better monitor water usage. But even that gets fought.

    As in most such issues, the question everyone is asking themselves is "how do I get other people to use less water?"

    Voluntary altruism is laudable, but frequently inadequate to effect the collective good.
    Government cannot compel voluntary altruism.
    But it can coerce collective cooperation.
    Viva la revolucion.

  2. Iago

    ***There was absolutely no reason to treat these black students like he did. It's disgusting.

    I also find it curious that they fuzzed out the picture so we can't read what the student wrote.

    1. But the "article" invokes "Al Sharpton" (of course!), the Negro-baiters' Godwin-du-jour. So, you know, it has automatic value.

    2 Didja notice? - It's a January 2014 "article", about a November 2013 "incident", and yet here it is in a thread created in June 2015. Why? Well, presumably it just came to his notice; but more to the point - opportunistic Negro-bashing is always timely. And then when called on it, they accuse others of playing the race card.

  3. Anvilbrother

    ******“Please do not feed the squirrels. If you feed the squirrels, they'll become overweight and prone to disease. Their population will grow, and they'll lose their ability to forage for food on their own. They will expect you to feed them and will attack you if you don't. They'll become like little welfare recipients, and you wouldn't want to do this to them.”
    - A sign in the Rocky Mountain National Park which aptly summarizes the welfare problem

    What a great description of the defence defense industry, and the car industry and the financial industry.

    Can't spell defense without that (s) there buddy.

    In the US, "defense" is best spelled "wasteful military boondoggle used mainly for offense to benefit the military-industrial complex". So you can see why the abbreviated version is easier. ;)

  4. jgoose71

    ***....and who emphasize practical alternatives....

    The man out weighed her by 100lbs, was a little bit crazy, and had a knife. What would you consider a "practical alternative?"

    Semantics aside on whether I chose the best phrase (maybe I didn't?), I've not had military or tactical training, so I'll defer to professional experts in the field such as TriGirl and Winsor. Their posts seem instructive.

  5. I notice that at least 2 of those in here pointedly refusing to jump on the waiting time bandwagon, and who emphasize practical alternatives, have advanced tactical military training and experience (one of whom is currently active duty). I realize there are some vets on the other side, but it's certainly still worth considering.

  6. kallend

    ***I've been thinking for some time that our next 'civil war' would be over water. We as a nation waste more water than we use.


    Houston has plenty. Maybe they'll send some.

    pity there isn't an infrastructure already in place to do just that. I guess aircraft carrier battle groups are more important than that.

  7. It's things like this that breeds violence against the haves by the have-nots. And there are plenty of guns in that state, too. Maybe the ranchers might have some perspective about their piggishness if a few of them have.... accidents.

  8. rwieder


    Sherry Butcher has dropped the ball... BIG. TIME. But does she give a shit? Probably not. >:(

    Why don't you call Sherry and tell her that your self, instead of parroting what everyone else has said in this silly thread. Rich screwed up. Have none of us ever screwed up? I've seen some shanagans, some real FUS. (At this point and time in this thread, and don't get me wrong I could care less one way or the other) You guys are just "Beating a dead horse" simple as that. Let it go. :)

    I think it's reasonable to continue to talk about whether it's proper for Rich to continue serving as chair of the S&T committee at this late date. He could have been removed, or he could have voluntarily stood down from the position. Neither has occurred. He's certainly aware of this discussion.
    As long as he holds the position it's an ongoing issue that does not get stale. Thus, it's appropriate to continue to discuss and debate. The passage of time itself while maintaining the status quo makes it timely today. So it's not a dead horse, it's a live one. Let people on all sides of the debate have their say.

  9. Quote

    In all seriousness, the guy fucking hosed himself just based on his reaction when Ryoder pulled up and started talking to him and the guy just got back in the vehicle without saying anything, and whatever his wife was yelling, didn't help either.

    You know, I was thinking the same thing: if only he'd told Mr. Yoder: "You know, sir, you're right, it was a stupid mistake, I have no excuse and I sincerely apologize" (and his loudmouth wife had stfu), we might not be having this conversation.

    To your similar point above: I can think of at least twice when I've avoided a ticket outright simply by being very respectful and apologetic to the cop who stopped me, and at least once when the cop only gave me a non-moving violation (so less fine and no points) because I behaved properly with him.

  10. DiverMike


    If you and your family/ancestors had been singled out for generations by discriminatory laws that restricted your freedom to live where you wanted, and thus prevented you and your family from progressing economically and educationally, would reparations for such treatment be appropriate?

    I would say "Yes" to a degree. Certainly to the person(s) who were singled out. "Maybe" to the children depending on the affect it had. "No" to the grandchildren.

    Just my opinion - yours may vary.

    I'd say that would be reasonable with Caucasian ethnic groups. Witness the early 20th Century discrimination in the US against Irish, Italians and Jews, most of which was either overcome or became effectively irrelevant after 2 or 3 generations. Why so quickly? - because those groups are all Caucasian. The Asians have largely overcome it, too; for although they're "not quite white", they're "whitish" (ya know?); and what the hell, these days that's good enough.

    But it's clearly taking longer than 3 generations with black people. First, because societal discrimination against black people seems to have lasted longer against them because of non-Caucasian appearance. (An Italian-American walking down the street will simply be seen as white, while a black person.. well, you see my point.) Second, because the social, economic and educational underclass comprised of impoverished African Americans is so entrenched in American society that it's going to take some more generations to overcome it.

  11. jackwallace

    I don't mean to burst your bubble, but the guy is going to get a $100 fine for illegal passing. He'll send in the check or hire a local lawyer and be done.

    From my quick & dirty online research:

    In CO, Improper passing gets you 4 points. Reckless driving gets you 8 points. That's a total of 12 points, if it was a CO license (I realize it wasn't). In CO, that's enough, with 1 incident, to get one's license suspended. Also, virtually all states have reciprocal traffic violation reporting & enforcement with each other, and it's all electronic, so it's pretty rapid. So no matter what state this guy is licensed in, once CO reports the violations to his home state (and they will), that will be a lot of points on his license, albeit calculated using his home state's formula. It might still even be enough to suspend his license, depending on his home state's license laws.

    Also, these days, moving violations generally get entered into an interstate computer database that is accessed by all the auto insurance companies for rate-setting & renewal purposes. So his insurance co. will find out about this & act accordingly, too.

    It seems that in CO although state fines max out at $100 per offense, certain counties and cities can tack on additional amounts; plus there will also be court costs. The money is probably less onerous than the points and insurance consequences, but with per-infraction fines and court costs he's probably looking at about at least $400.