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Quote>What does party affiliation have to do with it?
Easy. The congressman was a democrat, so you ASSUME he is ignorant or a liar. The guy in the audience was opposing him, so you say that "it is foolish for you or I to judge him."
If we reversed the situation, I have no doubt that you'd be supporting the GOP congressman who opposed Obama's health care plan, and thinking that the angry guy supporting Obama's plan was either ignorant or a liar, and/or was part of the Obama "machine."
It's unfortunate that the lies of Palin, Gingrich and their ilk on the right would goad the poor man into such angry, uncontrolled behavior.If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. -
QuoteExcept that it wasn't the Republic of Kenya in 1961. It didn't become that until 1963.
A birth certificate that can look into the future is pretty awesome.
(edited to show attachment with a circle around where it says "Republic of Kenya")
Edited again to say that since BO has already emerged from his mother's birth canal, none of these folks can watch it. And there's no video, and all skydivers know what that means
Wendy P.
Well, it was on Newsmax, they probably used tea leaves to read the future.If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. -
QuoteQuoteSo?
If I understood it correctly, the OP's contention was that in Hawaii there existed two different birth records, a "Certificate of Live Birth" and a "Birth Certificate". He argued that the former was available without proper proofs, and contained only minimal information, and that the latter was generated at the hospital and contained more detailed information.
Several people had posted with the idea that their only birth record was a "Certificate of Live Birth". That's true for me, too. But when I checked mine, it looked a lot more like the thing he was calling a "Birth Certificate" than the "Certificate of Live Birth" that's been shown--it included a bunch of details.
The fact that some of us possess a piece of paper with one title or the other at the top is not conclusive evidence, either way, about the underlying contention. Yet we're proposing it as if it is.
All I'm proposing is that different states do things different ways, and that the OP's contention is flawed on a multitude of levels.If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. -
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Well then show it to us.
Show all of us Obama's Birth Certificate.
NOT his CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH.
I told you that in California the "certificate of live birth" is the only thing the people who born here got. And this is perfectly enough to get a passport.
What kind of birth certificate do you possess?
Just to do a bit of devil's advocation: I just checked and my "Certificate of Live Birth" which is from California, contains all kinds of details not recorded in Obama's Hawaii "Certificate of Live Birth."
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Then debt is has to be. Cause taxation will because more debt than the other choice.
Know however, I do not agree with the premise of your post (althught the history is accurate)
Too many factors you ignore when posting to Reagan and Clinton. (and your Clinton implication is nearly a lie)
Please can you re-write that in English?If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. -
QuoteThere has been no Birth Certificate provided.
The certificate of a live birth is not a birth certificate.
You cannot even use that as a way to get a drivers license.
Wrong.
In the U.S., the keeping of vital statistics is a state function, because it is not a power assigned by the Constitution to the federal government (under the Tenth Amendment, all powers not given to the federal government are reserved to the states and the people), and yet the federal government is extremely dependent upon this state function it lacks direct jurisdiction over, because the Fourteenth Amendment expressly grounds American citizenship upon birth in the United States (a jus soli system of citizenship).
Therefore, the federal and state governments have traditionally cooperated, to some extent, to improve vital statistics. From 1900 to 1946 the U.S. Census Bureau designed standard birth certificates, collected vital statistics on a national basis, and generally sought to improve the accuracy of vital statistics. In 1946 that responsibility was passed to the U.S. Public Health Service. Unlike the British system of recording all births in "registers", the states file an individual document for each and every birth. In most states, this document was, and still is, entitled a "Certificate of Live Birth".[3][4]If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. -
Quote>How is the drone going to get close enough to fire, when everything
>can outrun it?
Patrols. It would require 5 UAV's to provide complete coverage of the west coast of the US.
>Ever hear of the Foxbat, Professor?
Yep! According to you, though, since we don't have mach-3 fighters, we are defenseless against them.
>Ever hear of maximum range?
Predator range - 2300 miles
F-22 range - 1600 miles (with drop tanks)
F-22 combat range - 410 miles
"If we can’t bring ourselves to make this tough but straightforward decision [to terminate the F22 program at 187 aircraft] — reflecting the judgment of two very different presidents, two different secretaries of defense, two chairmen of the joint chiefs of staff, and the current Air Force Secretary and Chief of Staff, where do we draw the line? And if not now, when? If we can’t get this right — what on earth can we get right? It is time to draw the line on doing Defense business as usual."
SecDef Gates, 7/16/2009If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. -
Since you have so much regard for scientific opinion:
pewresearch.org/pubs/1276/science-survey
According to a Pew survey of over 2500 scientists released last week, 84% of scientists believe the Earth is warming due to human activities.If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. -
Sometimes truth is stranger than a bad joke.If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. -
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So? Does that make it ok to quadrouple the deficit in one year?
First off, the debt hasn't quadrupled - it hit a trillion this month in a year that ends in October. But that's rather irrelevant - either we need this spending to recover, or we don't. The real concern is what about 2 years from now.
I said deficit, not debt. The deficit has quadroupled. .
By what factor did the deficit increase in the first year of G.W. Bush's presidency?If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. -
If you want a beer do you go to a bar or a temperance meeting?If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. -
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?? 2005 was the hottest year, ever.
Not even the guys at realclimate think that anymore. In, I believe, 2008, GISS updated this data showing it was the second hottest year.
And - this was just the ground data.
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Trying to fathom a long term trend by comparing years within one sunspot cycle and within one el nino cycle shows that those doing it either don't understand what they are doing, or they are being unethical.
(General comment, not directed at you, Mr. Rocket.)If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. -
QuoteQuoteThere are only 3 questions that need to be answered here.
1) is CO2 a greenhouse gas?
2) is the atmospheric concentration of CO2 increasing?
3) does a system increase in temperature if you increase its capacity to retain heat?
I'm sure there are more questions. Things like:
What factors contribute to global warming?
Are those factors under our control?
Can they be changed?
Is global warming undesirable?
Will the system stabilize itself, or become unstable in the long term?
The list goes on....
It seems to me that this is a massively complex topic, and that both sides are trying to make it seem simple--which is the mark of politics, as opposed to science. .
The IPCC report is not simple at all.If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. -
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Predicitions of global warming are "predictions."
No kidding, Dick Tracy.
And measurements are measurements. Thus far the measurements are pretty much in line with (but not exactly the same as) the predictions. Which is not bad at all for a system as complex as 5 quadrillion tons of mixed gases in contact with 160 million square miles of water and 40 million square miles of mountains, deserts, plains, forests, prairies, etc., and given such additional variables as el Ninos.If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. -
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www.nytimes.com/2009/07/12/us/politics/12intel.html?hp
"The Central Intelligence Agency withheld information about a secret counterterrorism program from Congress for eight years on direct orders from former Vice President Dick Cheney, the agency’s director, Leon E. Panetta, has told the Senate and House intelligence committees"
I wonder what else they withheld?
Maybe you should ask the bitch that is lieing?QuoteEx-CIA Boss Hayden: Congress Was Informed
Saturday, July 11, 2009 4:25 PM
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WASHINGTON -- Former CIA Director Gen. Michael Hayden angrily struck back Saturday at assertions the Bush administration's post-9/11 surveillance program was more far-reaching than imagined and was largely concealed from congressional overseers.
In an interview with The Associated Press, Hayden maintained that top members of Congress were kept well-informed all along the way, notwithstanding protests from some that they were kept in the dark.
[Rest of Hayden's self-serving claptrap snipped]
You can't tell the difference between a surveillance program, a torture program and an assassination program eh, Marc?
The CIA are our professional liars - it's what we pay them to do.If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. -
QuoteQuoteQuoteGiven sufficient height, I can prove that mass of the Earth exerts a force sufficient to accelerate the apple at a rate of 32fps squared.
No, you can't. You can demonstrate that the apple accelerates at ~32 f/s, but you cannot prove that the mass of the earth is, in fact, the cause of the observed acceleration.
Touche' - I see your point. Of course, experiments SINCE Newton and Galileo *have* proven it, so it's a bit of a wash.QuoteOf course, if you want to claim that your experiment does, in fact, prove gravity, then AGW can be (and has been) proven with similar observed observed correlations in the same manner.
Like JackC's link to a closed-system experiment as 'proof', you mean?
Are you sure it was a closed system?
Is the Earth a closed system?If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. -
QuoteQuote>Newton proved the law of gravity how many hundreds of years ago?
Actually, he hasn't "proven" anything. We still assume that it is the masses of two objects that are directly attracted toward each other, but we still cannot answer that it is the mass that does it. There are still other explanations for why "gravity" works. We do "know," however, that "gravity" does work.
Dropping an apple and watching it hit the ground is provable, and has been for several hundred years.
OK, first off you clearly do NOT even know what the law of gravity is, let alone how to prove it.
Second, try dropping a balloon filled with helium.
You are way way out of your depth and it shows,If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. -
QuoteQuote>"Very likely due" - so, they THEORIZE that CO2 is the main driver. Thank you.
Right - just as it is very likely that when you jump out of an airplane you will descend rapidly. That's why smart people use parachutes. Heck, no one has "proven" that smoking causes cancer. But if someone therefore concludes that smoking 2 packs a day is a good way to live a long and healthy life, we consider them not very smart.
That's one of the problems with using scientific levels of certainty with non-scientific audiences. "Evolution is only a theory!" is a common example.
Sorry analogies, Bill.
Newton proved the law of gravity how many hundreds of years ago?
.
WRONG, as usual.
If a booming voice from heaven called out "AGW is true" you'd still claim it wasn't proven, since you simply deny every bit of evidence presented.If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. -
QuoteQuotemy judicial philosophy. It is simple: fidelity to the law," Judge Sotomayor said. "The task of a judge is not to make the law — it is to apply the law.
Clearly not the 'perfect' judge under democrat philosophy. not at all
Well, CRAP. Now Obama has to go looking for someone that'll do what he THOUGHT she would do for the party.
Like GHW Bush and Souter, eh?If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. -
Quoteso in other words 3.999 ... = 4, right?
1/9 = 0.111111...
8/9 = 0.8888888...
1/9 + 8/9 = 1
0.11111.... + 0.88888.... = ?If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. -
Quotemakes sense ... thanks!
No, it doesn't, because there are an INFINITE number of "9"s in both cases, since infinity+1 = infinity
See www.newton.dep.anl.gov/newton/askasci/1995/math/MATH070.HTMIf you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. -
QuoteQuoteAnyway 3.9999... as an infinite series converges on the value 4, which makes it equivalent to 4 in certain respects
Not sure how 3.999999999 ... = 4.
Does 4.1111111 ... equal 4 too?
No. 4.0 - 3.999... = 0.000........000....000......
but 4.111.... - 4.0 = 0.11111...
Not very good at math, are you?If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. -
QuoteMy son showed me this. What is up with this equation?
Nothing's wrong with it.If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.
Dude, where are my hurricanes?
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Lost his Sharpie?