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  1. JerryBaumchen

    Hi 71,

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    New rules and regulations for what is now considered a pond or "wet land" (EPA land grab).



    Whenever someone complains about the actions of the EPA, I always ask them if they have read the book or seen the movie 'A Civil Action.' They usually have not heard of either, which tells me that they are really not very much informed.

    None of us is perfect; and neither is any agency of the federal gov't. But, this nation would be a garbage dump without the actions of the EPA.

    Jerry Baumchen


    I'm not saying they are 100% evil. Maybe 80%?:ph34r:

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2015/08/03/final-waters-of-the-u-s-rule-is-more-overreach-by-the-epa/
    "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
    Life, the Universe, and Everything

  2. DanG

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    No I'm not a good person, however, I don't write rules and am only let off my chain outside the continental US....



    So you're one of those soldiers who would follow orders to confiscate all citizens' guns?


    You can be a real asshole and still do what's right. Sometimes to do what's right it helps to be a real asshole...:ph34r:
    "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
    Life, the Universe, and Everything

  4. quade

    ***If you split traffic you have to do it a certain way (effective ban in CA).



    You do realize that driving is a privilege and not a right; yes?

    Which goes back to my original point. I guess the only things that are rights are in the bill of rights? Other than that the government can fuck you over anyway they want?
    "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
    Life, the Universe, and Everything

  5. billvon


    > If you split traffic you have to do it a certain way (effective ban in CA).

    What specifically is banned? And do you claim Obama did this?



    There is a difference between a ban and and "effective ban." While not a lot has been banned, you can put enough regulations on something to make it impossible to do or not worth doing.

    That is why I mentioned the above proposed lane sharing laws in California. If you have ever ridden a motorcycle and shared lanes, and then read how the laws is proposed to be written, you know that the intent is to actually make it illegal. You can't reasonably lane share IAW the given guide lines.

    Other posts are to the "Nanny State." Are they banning shit? No, but they were passing regulations that sure annoy the hell out of a lot of people.

    Did Obama do it? Not all of it. There are plenty of "big government" politicians that want to be a part of every aspect of your life.

    Do I know all the new rules that the EPA, IRS, BLM, BATFE, DOE, and all the other regulatory agencies under Obama passed? No, but I'm sure I'll figure it out the next time I'm in town. You can't tell me they didn't pass any. I'm pretty sure there are plenty of people bitching about "death by a thousand cuts" under their rule.

    Every time I talk to my dad I get to hear about how another Department of the Interior regulation just put another company out of business.....
    "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
    Life, the Universe, and Everything

  6. SkyDekker



    Google:

    Rick Mercer Talking to Americans.

    If you agree that the contents of that indicate Americans are inherently stupid, I will agree that Exhibit A does indeed cause a severe risk to your 1st Amendment.



    That was good for a laugh. It does not, however, change the fact that these are Yale students, and are not supposed to be stupid, and that I suspect that there is a higher demand for limited speech on most college campuses than there is in everyday America.
    "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
    Life, the Universe, and Everything

  7. DanG

    If you're sure some articulable rights have been removed, how about you articulate some?

    Would you say that changes to laws have been worse for your rights under Obama than previous presidents?



    Ah yes, the "Name 3 rights" argument mentioned above that the liberals love.....

    As I said, every new rule or regulation tells people what they can and can't do. You can't buy a soda more than 16 oz (NY). You can't by a gun with certain features (NY and CT). If you split traffic you have to do it a certain way (effective ban in CA). New rules and regulations for what is now considered a pond or "wet land" (EPA land grab).

    As said, do any of these actually effect your rights as enshrined in the constitution? No. Do I actually think all the new pages of regulation are necessary? No. Do I think that I am less free with all the new rules? Yes.

    If I only have enough money to buy one (1) cigarette, I would like to think that I could do it without being beaten up by a bunch of Jack Booted Thugs (Eric Garner, I can't breathe!!!)

    At this point with all the rules and regulations I'm pretty sure everyone is a felon that hasn't been caught. We still have the 4th amendment for now. (However, if you don't consent to a search there are things the police can do that are considered non intrusive by the courts, like hold you while a dog sniffs your vehicle....)
    "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
    Life, the Universe, and Everything

  8. DanG

    Dude, you work for the government. Are you not a good person?



    No I'm not a good person, however, I don't write rules and am only let off my chain outside the continental US....:ph34r:
    "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
    Life, the Universe, and Everything

  9. DanG

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    Yes, you can own a gun.*

    (* That gun must not be bigger than .177 caliber, must be a muzzle loaded single shot, cannot contain any cosmetic feature that makes it look "evil" or offensive, and cannot fire a projectile faster than you can throw it.... for your safety.....)



    Which has been proposed by nobody in any position of authority. Nice fear tactic, though. The gun manufacturers thank you.



    Please explain that to the millions victims of the Connecticut "Assault" weapons or New York "SAFE" act that are now felons with the passing of crappy gun regulations in the middle of the night. Mind you, more people are killed by claw hammers than "Assault" rifles, but it gives people a warm fuzzy while they watch puppy videos....
    "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
    Life, the Universe, and Everything

  10. While clicking around the internet, just for shits and grins, I was reading about the debate on the Bill of Rights. I was really surprised to learn how much the nation really opposed the first ten amendments to the constitution.
    http://www.history.org/foundation/journal/winter09/rights.cfm

    Not because they didn’t want freedom, but because they wanted to protect it. The fear was that if they enshrined these inalienable rights into the constitution, that people would think that these rights were given to them by the government, and were not inherent in nature. The other fear was that these rights were the only inherent rights we have. All other rights (not enshrined in the constitution) are not necessarily rights.

    I’m afraid that the men of 200 years ago are smarter than we are today. Last year Obama passed 81,611 pages of new rules saying what we can and can’t do.
    http://thehill.com/regulation/administration/264456-2015-was-record-year-for-federal-regulation-group-says

    To quote all of the famous liberals out there “Name 3 right that you don’t have today that you used to have before Obama took Office?”

    I say this because they will define our rights as “those things defined in the 1st 10 amendments to the constitution” in direct contrast to what the founding fathers thought.

    The other thing that seems to be overlooked is the fine lines between “regulations” and “infringements” of said rights. Unfortunately, some rights are held to different standards than others. And even this will vary widely depending on who you talk to about what rights, and even those bars are changing with the different generations. Newer generations are incapable, it seems, to empathize or care about how their decisions will affect others of different back grounds.

    So in the end, we are the frog in a pot of water being slowly boiled so we don’t notice.

    From Federalist Paper No. 26:
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    Schemes to subvert the liberties of a great community REQUIRE TIME to mature them for execution. An army, so large as seriously to menace those liberties, could only be formed by progressive augmentations; which would suppose, not merely a temporary combination between the legislature and executive, but a continued conspiracy for a series of time. Is it probable that such a combination would exist at all? Is it probable that it would be persevered in, and transmitted along through all the successive variations in a representative body, which biennial elections would naturally produce in both houses? Is it presumable, that every man, the instant he took his seat in the national Senate or House of Representatives, would commence a traitor to his constituents and to his country? Can it be supposed that there would not be found one man, discerning enough to detect so atrocious a conspiracy, or bold or honest enough to apprise his constituents of their danger? If such presumptions can fairly be made, there ought at once to be an end of all delegated authority. The people should resolve to recall all the powers they have heretofore parted with out of their own hands, and to divide themselves into as many States as there are counties, in order that they may be able to manage their own concerns in person.


    http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed26.asp

    Or we could just elect Donald Trump for president…..:ph34r:
    "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
    Life, the Universe, and Everything

  11. I know many people here may be thinking that will never happen, but I hate to say it, the foundation has already been laid. Exhibit A: Yale students
    http://www.mediaite.com/online/yale-students-sign-petition-to-end-first-amendment/

    Some of you might be saying that he tricked the students by the way he phrased the question. But come on, it’s the First Amendment! Who doesn’t know what it is?

    And this is Yale! That is the part that should really scare people. This isn’t a small backwoods institution; it’s a premiere Ivy League college. 6 Supreme Court Justices have come from Yale. You know, where people will come from that will shape out future?

    Also consider the pew research study that said 40% of millennials are OK with limiting speech:
    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/20/40-of-millennials-ok-with-limiting-speech-offensive-to-minorities/

    So in short, to speak in public, you will need a license to show that you have been trained in proper, non-offensive speech. We are not trampling on your right to free speech; we are regulating it for your safety. You can still speak, after you have gone through the appropriate classes and paid the appropriate fees to the government.

    Do you have a license for that freedom?
    "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
    Life, the Universe, and Everything

  12. DanG

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    It won't come to that because in the end we will give up our guns.



    It won't come to that because the Constitution guarantees your right to own a gun, and no one in power is actually trying to take it away.



    Yes, you can own a gun.*

    (* That gun must not be bigger than .177 caliber, must be a muzzle loaded single shot, cannot contain any cosmetic feature that makes it look "evil" or offensive, and cannot fire a projectile faster than you can throw it.... for your safety.....)
    "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
    Life, the Universe, and Everything

  13. DanG

    ..... The good people who compose the government.....



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    "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
    Life, the Universe, and Everything

  14. mirage62

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    The president's actions do not constitute an executive order; they are directives to his Cabinet departments and are considered the president's last, best hope to beef up gun laws, even if they aren't as robust as he'd like.



    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/tears-hugs-and-cameras-help-sell-obamas-gun-talk/ar-AAgppA7?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=iehp

    There's something to be said for Obama taking a stand even if it is real late in the game, even if he could have done a lot more earlier (when he had the house and the senate) - having said that......this seems to be more to feed his base than to really do much.


    Actually no. Every time Obama speaks about gun control, gun sales go through the roof and Smith&Wesson stocks sore. All I need is for him to make a couple more speeches on Gun Control and I will be able to retire in style.....:ph34r::ph34r:
    "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
    Life, the Universe, and Everything

  15. DanG


    I agree, I just don't see how requiring background checks for gun purchases infringes anyone's rights.



    Typically they don't. But if a background check takes 3 to 6 months and you get murdered by an ex-boyfriend waiting for the results to come back, then ya, maybe it did.....:S
    "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
    Life, the Universe, and Everything

  16. I know there are a couple of Police Officers here on this forum.

    How do you guys feel about making a "Police Ride Along for a day" a mandatory part of High School in high crime areas?
    "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
    Life, the Universe, and Everything

  17. ryoder

    That article was short on details of *why* the two were sentenced.
    Here is the story: http://www.justice.gov/usao-or/pr/eastern-oregon-ranchers-convicted-arson-resentenced-five-years-prison



    So I'm trying to put the pieces together here. They were trying to do a controlled burn on property they leased for grazing? Then they told on them selves and got thrown in jail?

    Makes sense. I remember a story I read a while back where a guy got fined for walking around with a bucket of asphalt fixing pot holes in the streets. Only the government is allowed to do that. Funny thing was the government wasn't.......:ph34r:
    "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
    Life, the Universe, and Everything

  18. kallend


    The Western Democracies *should* *not* *get* *involved*.

    Messing in other peoples' internal squabbles never has a good outcome.



    To late. If Obama had a son that was Muslim, he would be Shia... I'm mean Shitty.... I mean, well, what ever....:ph34r:

    Either way, the Muslim world thinks he has picked a side. Part of the reason it's in flames.
    "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
    Life, the Universe, and Everything

  19. cvfd1399

    It's not a badge it is a retirement commission and is labeled as such. It is a piece of paper that allows you reciprocity for CCW. You still can't carry in places like New York so it's not some super special thing that allows you to do anything.

    So what it allows all 50 states, if you live in my state you get somewhere like 40/50 already due to existing public CCW reciprocity agreements already

    Another note is Louisiana CCW accepts a dd214 to exempt prior military from qualifying at the range no matter how long they have been out. This is just as bad and no different than your gripe above and already is law in many states.

    It seems you just caught wind of something that ruffeled your feathers before you did some research.



    I'm pretty sure it's a 50 state carry. New York AND California both except it. Attempt to arrest people in both states have been thrown out. I know that they are not allowed to carry in federal buildings and some other gun free zones though....
    http://www.policemag.com/channel/weapons/articles/2014/01/does-the-leosa-carry-law-apply-to-you.aspx

    Another one that I remember from a while back do you think that California police turned in their Glocks while waiting for them to get approved on the California Handgun Safety list? I mean, you don't want police using guns that might accidentally go off, right?:ph34r:

    Or do you think all California Police officer pistols will have microstamping?

    http://www.dailybreeze.com/opinion/20150213/california-should-drop-certified-handguns-roster-guest-commentary

    http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/safeguns.asp

    Like I said, I'm starting to get real sick of 2 separate standards, one for the government one for the people....
    "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
    Life, the Universe, and Everything

  20. billvon

    >You must live in a different universe than most of us.

    Give him a few more posts. He will blame Obama and things will be back to normal (Speaker's Corner style.)



    Actually, my mood has been less Dem v Repub, rich v poor, or anything else like that. It's been more Gov Officials v people.

    Sorry, but big give libs or people that think more gov is the answer to the question just wind up with the shit end of the stick.....:)
    "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
    Life, the Universe, and Everything

  21. jakee


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    With city police forces the police chief is appointed by the mayor. The chiefs only concern is to keep the mayor (a politician) happy. Sherifs in the US are elected officials. To keep their job they have to actually get out and meet the people to see how things are going. Actually develop a relationship with the community. Something that doesn't alway happen with police chiefs.



    How do you build a relationship with a couple of million people?

    Try electing Sherriffs in a constituency that size and you get Joe Arpaio.


    And strangely enough, the people of his county are happy and the criminals are the ones complaining. If you don't like it, well tough shit, you don't live there.

    And it you did you could always try to vote him out and replace him with someone better.....:ph34r:
    "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
    Life, the Universe, and Everything

  22. gowlerk

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    Replace "largest cities" with "liberal cities with politicians backed by public sector unions" and then you will start to see the correlation.....



    Liberal cities? Like Dallas? Or Houston? Or Peoria. Il? By your standard pretty much every American city is "Liberal".


    Yes, a lot of your large cities do have liberal mayors. How do you think they got money for their elections?:ph34r:
    "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
    Life, the Universe, and Everything

  23. gowlerk

    CBC story today:

    "A Mexican court has granted fugitive Ethan Couch, 18, an injunction against his deportation, delaying his return by weeks or months, a Mexican migration official said on Thursday."

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ethan-couch-return-injunction-1.3385666

    It is not clear in the story if he is in detention still.



    Correct, but his injunction against deportation is based on his request for asylum. Do you think he would rather spend up to 120 day in an American prison? Or however long in a Mexican prison? If he would rather stay in Mexico, I'm sure his conditions in Mexico are looking to be a little better.

    Remember, had his lawyer put in a request for him to stay, otherwise he would be in the U.S. by now.
    "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
    Life, the Universe, and Everything

  24. jakee

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    So the unholy alliance between liberal politicians and public sector unions in these towns where politicians vote pay raises and more equipment and more rights to them in exchange for campaign donations from collected taxes doesn't exist? Liberal Politicians haven't fought tooth and nail to keep public sector workers from opting out of unions?



    Sorry, I don't see how that's an answer as to why the largest cities have the largest police departments?

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    And what is wrong with having your police force answerable to the people instead of politicians?



    Well, what does that actually mean?

    Propose a mechanism for police answering directly to the people...


    I understand you are coming from across the pond and may not be familiar with "all things American" so I'll help you out a little....:ph34r:

    Replace "largest cities" with "liberal cities with politicians backed by public sector unions" and then you will start to see the correlation.....

    With city police forces the police chief is appointed by the mayor. The chiefs only concern is to keep the mayor (a politician) happy. Sherifs in the US are elected officials. To keep their job they have to actually get out and meet the people to see how things are going. Actually develop a relationship with the community. Something that doesn't alway happen with police chiefs.
    "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
    Life, the Universe, and Everything