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I would only be annoyed by how long it took the FBI to declare - they have proven for 52 1/4 years it will not come from them. I do not have an interest in whoever is named. I am only following the Reca storyline as it flows straighter than the FBI story and NWA's flightpath. Sadly, I trust his information more than what our government agency lets out.

psst.... cubby. Which one of these is the "Blockhead with too wide of nose?"

That is a good point about avoiding involvement when you know something is going on at the time. But in this case, they didn't know there was a "train wreck". Nobody, but a few new of a hijacker being on the plane, so why would any passengers pay attention to one particular person? I give more weight to comments made by witnesses when they offer them up closer to the time of this hijack event.

How does your first sentence rule out a thrift shop? Is it the two holes, the dust, or cheap and dirty? Maybe the year?

How about this one?

Flyjack, Can you show flights that were below 12,000 feet on this map?

If all the groups you list were part of determining the path of Flight 305, then they should have done a better job. Even the posters here can't seem to agree on what the sketch shows or who created it. Why haven't we seen evidence of the raw radar data? Why don't we see the original data that made this zig-zag flight so definitive? If ATC "cleared" the traffic to Reno for the crew of 305 to fly as they see fit, then why are there redactions in the radio transcripts claiming it was just other aircraft communications? Why was another commercial craft piloted by Captain Bohan flying into Portland just after 305 passed above - weren't there supposed to be no other craft on this path? At least Reca had a witness for his flight path and answered other questions about the hijacking. Maybe that is why some people trust his story more than the FBI records.

Have you read the book, or at least the two chapters devoted to Briggs and the money find? How can you be sure it is made up? How many sets of rubber bands would have been wrapped around the packets over the 9 years until the find? I don't think the money bury would require the bands hold the money together. I think the bury expert could hold the mess together, while doing his task, except for the edges that broke off and were splayed around during the search. I don't recall the discovery notes reading that the bands were intact until Ingrams touched the packets. Seems they were stuck to wads of bills?

The Ron Carlson interview by Colbert's team uncovered the back story of the money find at Tena Bar. Ingram confirmed with his "two sticks" slip. Colbert chased the wrong rabbit. Any number of rabbits could have hung out with Dick Briggs and his party crowd. Can some analytics whiz run the probability of naturally finding a brick sized object (under the soil) somewhat outside of the DZ? What a conundrum for law enforcement and the airline!

It was buried more than once. The last time was just days before the find.

One other witness besides Tina can give answers to the money issue. Maybe not on how the packets were wrapped, but Harold Dwayne Ingram gives away what happened on the beach that day - See minute 62 of episode 1 from 2016 History Channel series. Also in the Colbert book, The Last Master Outlaw... [page 188] ..."not there, see them two little sticks right there" after young Brian began to clear his initial location for the fire. So yes, it arrived on Tena Bar via the same event (person) that also buried it and marked with two sticks!

Does your SAGE output or recordings show FOUR interceptors? I didn't ask about the F106s. I am talking about two of these... F102 NOT two of these... F106 There were four interceptors in the air along with the other assortment of chase aircraft.

So did the SAGE radar identify the F102 interceptors? Wasn't there another aircraft that arrived in Portland from Seattle within minutes of the hijacked plane just passing over? Some of the people here and on Shutter's site reported weather conditions based on the pilot (Johnson?) that was just minutes behind - seems like the airway wasn't very cleared! - or maybe another flightpath was clear? by "obscured", I meant by cloud cover. No visual on the plane until sighted by the T-33 or C130 south of Portland.

The Reca story makes me explore a few other items. Does anyone else question where the other set of Fighter/Interceptor aircraft were during this event? I see discussion on two F106 fighters, a T-33 trainer, a C-130 Hercules, and Himmelsbach in a helicopter. All these were following an obscured plane down to Portland. Who were the two F102 fighters following out of their base in Boise ID? Not a pilot, but wouldn't you have an idea where you were when you landed? Why would you not be involved in the map creation process? Why no comments by the pilots until the map was presented?

Isn't Reca the only Cooper Candidate that has an eye-witness on the ground? Osiadacz seems like a pretty good lead. You mentioned Reca doesn't sound like Cooper - can you post recordings of Cooper's voice somehow? Do you expect a living Cooper to be more forthcoming with information? He didn't hold his secret for 35 years, because he was easy to extract information from, or interview. I read the Laurin book first, then watched the four episodes. Give it a try, might give a different perspective to a stale case.

FLYJACK, Looks to be the same Joan/Joni person - from the Carl Laurin book, "D.B. Cooper & Me..." he lists both names anyway, on page 307. Joan was Walt's second wife. They married Nov 3, 1960. Leaves her early 1964, Divorce Judgement Oct 2, 1964 (from my previous note). Your link to her burial site seems to be in the same cemetery (Sacred Heart Cemetery, Oscoda MI) as Walter's headstone - I just searched Reca on that website. Married his third wife (name redacted in Koenig book, Laurin names her 'Carla' in his book) Sep 30, 1974. Permanently separated 1978 Walt gets back with Joan/Joni in 1983 or 84 in MI. They do not marry again, but she changes her last name to Reca, April 12, 1984. Walter had many parole violations from a variety of offenses in numerous states, as I recall. The Koenig book may have the best details. It is likely he jumped one in 1967. All the info comes from the same source, the Reca voice recordings and Carl Laurin notes. I am guessing the Vern Jones, Joe Koenig, and Carl Laurin information should match pretty well, as they all had access to it.

Also tied to your later post on the same, here is a bit more on the Walter Reca timeline. I am not the advocate, but have a few books. This is an abbreviated version from the Joe Koenig Book, "Getting the Truth..." (pp 305-339): Oct 2, 1964 Judgement of Divorce from wife Joni in MI Jun 22, 1965 Big Boy attempted robbery in Detroit, MI, jumps bail to northern CA. July 1966 Walt moves to WA for better work. Wife (second/third?) and her son go with - she says she is pregnant. Fall 1966 Same wife turns in "James" since friend calls him Walt. Arrested after police learn real name, extradited to MI Feb 1967 Same wife, her son, and new baby boy with him in MI. Walt begins using 'Reca' around this time 1968 Wage and Labor dispute and letter writing campaign against Iron Workers Local #25, judgement against union - Walt and family move to Baton Rouge, LA 1969-70 Walt moving Northwesterly from Baton Rouge to FL to Altanta GA to other states on his way to WA Jan 1971 Working for Vinnell Corporation. Some odd jobs and iron work at Grand Coulee Dam (tower three const?), WA. Living in Hartline, WA

Per FLYJACK's quote of Bruce's 2020 article, you would have to search for a different name. And from the 3rd Reca video by Principia, Attorney Damore stated "Mr Blank". Whatever name assigned to the sample, it wasn't "Reca". How would they know it was Reca's? As FLYJACK says, maybe Larry Carr can enlighten us?

I believe it was 2009.

Joe Koenig writes the FBI did test Walter Reca's DNA. From page 41 in his book "Getting the Truth: I am D.B. Cooper" - quite an interesting communication with the FBI regarding the sample.

So it seems at least one of the stewardesses left their purse. Most importantly, they went back into the plane to retrieve it, even though the terrible hijacker and his briefcase bomb were still inside the plane. They didn't seem too uncomfortable around him! This tells us a lot about how he set the ladies at ease - hint into his personality, maybe?

See the older History Channel, 2-part series from July 2016, for more on the Igram find. Dwayne says a little too much in the interview at minute 62 of episode 1. The same information is given in Colbert's book, The Last Master Outlaw... [page 188] ... "see them two little sticks right there" after young Brian cleared his first spot for the fire. In addition, see the Ingram's reaction at minute 68 in the same episode 1, where Dwayne and Brian watch the Ron Carlson interview pegging the "hippie couple". Similar explanation in the book [pp 166-68]. This Dropzone forum was down during that period and I never saw any discussion on any of these points on the other forums. Seems like two big keys regarding the 'money plant'.

I agree, we do not know what check boxes are correct. So what else can pair candidates with the high-jacker? Mannerisms of Cooper during the event? Attitudes and behaviors of the crew and main players as events unfold? I see changes in the behavior and narrative within the first 48 hours; also the 1980 Tena Bar money find.

According to the three books I have read on Reca, he DIDN'T want this following him around. His best friend took years to coax even parts of the story out of him. Isn't the ability to withhold information a requirement for the first list of jobs - those things you say he didn't do? I am puzzled how your first paragraph seems to contradict your second? Wouldn't that background and robbery training make him a good candidate for the occupations you list?

It's amazing Florence would trump Tina on the sketch matter regardless of her looking directly at him, or not. I estimate Tina had almost 15 times the conatct time with the hijacker (Florence 20 mins? / Tina 290 mins?). I still question why the Initial Sketch wouldn't be circulated like every version after.