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  1. 3 hours ago, olofscience said:

    You started this particular line of discussion, then got so thoroughly owned so I guess we should let you change the topic again to save yourself more embarrassment.

    Your delusion is understandable given your prediction that EVs would overtake normal vehicles in three or four years (now one or two). Let’s see what is happening in the real world…
    “Ford’s electric vehicle unit reported that losses soared in the first quarter to $1.3 billion, or $132,000 for each of the 10,000 vehicles it sold in the first three months of the year, helping to drag down earnings for the company overall.”

     

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  2. 15 minutes ago, jakee said:

    Lol right. So when Bill said use of renewables was improving air quality in California and you said ‘well PA burns loads of fossil fuel and the air in the small town of Nowheresville is more betterer!!’ that was because you understand the multitude of variables that makes major Californian cities different to small PA towns?

    Sure, that sounds totally believable and consistent.

    I just think that it was funny that BillV bragged about improving air quality and referred to other states as “less developed” when California has some of the most polluted air in the country. Anything beyond that is overthinking. Let’s get back on track and discuss how Ford is projected to loose more than five billion dollars in its EV division this year.

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  3. · Edited by brenthutch

    1 hour ago, olofscience said:

    And you keep failing to address my argument - it's not the existence of farms, highways, trucks, cars, and SUVs.

    It's HOW MUCH FOSSIL FUEL each state burns. It seems numbers are just too difficult for you.

    It’s also a function of size as well, among other factors. (You seem to be flummoxed by the whole multi variable thing)

  4. Let’s get back on track.

    “On Tuesday Tesla, the world’s largest EV maker, reported that its adjusted earnings plunged 48% in the first quarter as revenue fell 9%, after it reported the first year-over-year drop in sales since the pandemic.”

  5. · Edited by brenthutch

    22 minutes ago, jakee said:

    What are you going to blame?

    Much of this pollution is attributed to the Valley’s topography, meteorology, two major highways, and intensive agricultural uses. In 2011, the major sources of air pollution in the San Joaquin Valley were heavy duty trucks, other mobile sources, autos and light trucks, and fuel combustion from stationary sources.

    Yeah…that makes sense until you realize PA also has farms, major highways heavy duty trucks, cars, SUVs, pick up trucks and “fuel combustion from stationary sources”  California’s air quality should be improving from its declining population if nothing else.

     

  6. · Edited by brenthutch

    From WebMD

    The ten cities with the worst air pollution in America include:

    Los Angeles CA #1

    Bakersfield CA

    Visalia CA

    Fresno CA

    Sacramento CA 

    San Diego CA 

    San Francisco CA

    BillV didn’t you mention something about California’s air quality compared to “less developed” states?

    I’m sure Olof will try to blame Mexico 

    BTW Pennsylvania has a higher population density than California, we get the majority of our electricity from fossil fuels and our air is still cleaner.

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  8. Just now, olofscience said:

    Still no numbers there, just because someone says they're a problem doesn't mean they're THE main source.

     

    "The majority (42 percent) of the pollutants that contribute to ozone formation in San Diego County come from tailpipe emissions from MOTOR VEHICLES." (Source: https://www.iqair.com/usa/california/san-diego)

     

    Emphasis added again since reality doesn't seem to be getting to you.

    Apparently you don’t know the difference between San Diego and San Francisco :rofl:

  9. 2 minutes ago, billvon said:

    Not so connected to reality, are you.

    “We have long been concerned about the proliferation of diesel backup generators here in the Bay Area, as highlighted in this report,” said Jack Broadbent, executive officer of the Bay Area Air Quality Management District. “Emissions from these backup generators can harm local residents, regional air quality and the global climate. This is particularly true in communities already overburdened by air pollution and the Air District is actively pursuing regulations to curb this pollution.”

    This pollution, in turn, may trigger upwards of $31.8 million in annual health costs in the Bay Area and $103.9 million in South Coast communities, due to increases in mortalities, heart attacks, hospital visits and other adverse consequences – particularly in vulnerable communities.”

    Here is some reality for you.

  11. · Edited by brenthutch

    19 minutes ago, olofscience said:

    Still ignoring my question as predicted :rofl: you're so easy to figure out...

    To answer your question, the pollution comes from all of the diesel generators when rainbows and unicorn farts are unable to keep up with demand.

    “CARB’s ATCM for Diesel Particulate Matter from Portable Engines Rated at 50 Horsepower or Greater (Portable Diesel Engine ATCM) allows the use of emergency-use engines to provide back-up power during PSPS events”

  12. 37 minutes ago, olofscience said:

    This is one of the instances where per capita basis SHOULDN'T be used since air quality isn't divided per capita. So you suddenly gain the ability to divide numbers when they twist the narrative :rofl:

     

    And as I predicted, you ignored my question on where the air pollution was coming from:rofl:

    It’s also better than Los Angeles 

  13. 5 minutes ago, olofscience said:

    Clear enough that you're misleading and lying, yes.

    I said, what affects air quality is mainly how much fossil fuel is burned. Number of coal power plants doesn't mean that PA burns more fossil fuel.

    California coal plants = 1 Pennsylvania coal plants = dozens. On a per capita basis, Pennsylvania burns more coal than California, and California produces more solar and wind on a per capita basis, yet Pennsylvania has better air quality and cheaper electricity.

  14. 1 hour ago, jakee said:

    Lots? Lots and lots? You sure 'bout that?

    Ok, so how many SUVs and pickup trucks does State College, township of 40,000 people, have in comparison to San Diego, city of 1,400,000?

     

    Bottom line, we have better air quality and cheaper electricity from fossil fuels than San Diego with all of its solar panels , windmills and EVs. That will make you butt hurt but those are the facts. 

  15. 3 minutes ago, olofscience said:

    I'll try to explain it as simply as possible - you specifically mentioned "the heart of coal and fracking country".

    Just mining coal and fracking doesn't affect the air quality as much as burning the stuff.

     

    As to your inability to understand the difference in San Diego's and PA's air quality, here's a clue: it doesn't depend on merely the existence of fossil fuel burning, but rather how much is burned. But I don't really need to explain further, because we know how you are with numbers.

    We have more coal fired power plants than California and better air quality. Clear enough for you?  

  16. · Edited by brenthutch

    1 hour ago, olofscience said:

    But you didn't answer my question. Do those power plants burn ALL the coal and gas mined in PA?

    I don’t know, what difference would that make? BillV’s point was that California’s green energy was conducive to better air quality. My point was we mine, frack and burn fossil fuels in our power plants, homes, and vehicles and we still have better air quality than California. The fact that we help the the world by sharing in our bounty has no bearing on that fact.

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    40 minutes ago, olofscience said:

    And petrol-burning cars aren't an issue?

     

    Well we have lots of SUVs and pickup trucks burning gas and diesel and still have better air quality than San Diego 

    BTW I could have listed dozens of fossil fuel power plants, I just gave you the two closest.

  18. · Edited by brenthutch

    29 minutes ago, olofscience said:

    There's this thing about digging the coal and oil in one place, then burning it in another place...

    Man, this is so stupid it's definitely trolling now...

    Shawville generating station (coal fired) 30 miles upwind, Penn State power plant (natural gas) located in town(right on campus). It helps to have a clue, you won’t look so foolish.

  19. Just now, jakee said:

    Lol, you say that after having ignored my two other posts in this thread? It’s pretty clear who’s got nothing to offer in this conversation. 

    But by all means, please keep on repeating your premise with zero evidence or reason to support it, I’m sure it’ll start sounding more convincing at some point.

    I’m still waiting on the evidence of your claims 

  20. On 4/22/2024 at 12:43 PM, billvon said:

    I get all my power from solar.  California now goes hours getting all its power from renewables for weeks on end - and all that is time we are not burning natural gas, thus saving that gas for the less developed parts of the US.  As a result, natural gas prices are dropping, and air quality is improving.  

    That is odd as State College PA (right in the heart of coal and fracking country) has better air quality than San Diego 

  22. · Edited by brenthutch

    20 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

    The US has services as a larger component than every other country in the world in total consumer spending. Inflation has effected services more than manufacturing because services has a huge labor component with goods less so.

    Little of Biden's spending involves services.

    Is this a new phenomenon? Wasn’t this the case five years ago? The Fed has done what it can through monetary policy the problem lies in fiscal policy and the Democrats profligate deficit spending.

  25. 21 minutes ago, billvon said:

    Dark Brandon is doing that on purpose to fool you!  He's pulling all the strings, all over the world.  Oh, and he's senile, incompetent, demented and can't put two words together without screwing it up.

    Still avoiding the question 9_9