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Thanks John ! Actually the WORST run to go on is the 3am for a low battery in a CO detector

Nothing better than going back the day after a fire and see what you were crawling around in

Great video ! I love learning new apologetic evidence , thanks for posting

Great clip Regulator!!

I jumped at Skydive East from '89-93 ( then went to the Ranch) Im at STL now and there are a few people who were from Skydive east I will ask them in March when I start up for the year again.

I wish! I was on fear factor 10 yrs ago, but I have a full time job, FDNY do they work around that??

Thanks Andy. I wish... money just a little too tight now. I was building time pretty quick. Now I fly just enough to keep the rust off ... Where are all the hot Kate Beckensale looking millionaires who are looking to adopt a 40 yr old geesh!!!

yea, there is a responsibiltity if you decide to state your opinion to people ( who ask for it ) because if you have a lot of holes or unanswered quest. that may help have the opposite effect and make them have even less faith....
This is the reason I wrote in my thread to the skeptics to doubt your doubts, thats what I do, If I get doubt about something I tackle it head on...

Ok no easy answer here!!! For every site that supports this, there is one that doesnt for instance:
The provenance of the Scansoriopteryx type specimen is uncertain, as it was obtained from private fossil dealers who did not record exact geologic data
I got that from WIKIPEDIA and as far as all the tremendous controversey around Archaeopteryx , forget it, Im not saying one side is right or wrong but in order to even use your theory I have to find reliable sources to read that isnt partial to one or the other and thats where it gets difficult. The ONLY thing I think to do is read both and arrive at my conclution from there. Again that will take a long time so dont be surprised if you get a post from me a week, a month, or who knows when about this.....

True!! Unless your from down south and into that kinda thing!

Thanks Wendy, I will. Every so often I come across something that I can't answer. That doesn't mean my whole belief system falls apart in fact I find when I look into something that threatens it I come out of it stronger when I do get my answers. If I don't have these discussions in here I would never get this kind of input that's very important to me.

(Warning this story may make you cry)
I am looking to be adopted.. I am loving and kind and I give lots of hugs and snuggles! I am looking for special parents that will love me and provide me with an airplane I can use to build my hrs up. I dont mind doing Tandems for money they are fun, but if given enough currency to jump I would like to make more belly jumps. I am a married father of two, I would like for you to adopt all of us, but if that cant happen you can leave my wife out of it............

Ok so cosmological , moral, and a touch or so of teleological ( design ) has been thrown in, not completley covered but I wanted to bring up the ACCURACY of the bible esp. the new testament
so first I'd like to point out that most of it has been written very early after jesus' death, any objections so far??

Newbie... Love it! Im getting too effin old.. Newbie sounds young

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>looked up your first example Anchiornis. The problem I have with this is this was a
>dinosour living 160 million yrs ago, and it always had wings . . .

?? No, it didn't have wings. It probably couldn't even fly. It had four legs - two big ones in the rear, two wimpy ones in the front, like a jackrabbit. The front legs had claws on them. The only thing that set it apart from other dinosaurs was that it had feathers.

>but it doesnt prove a lizard started to sprout wings

And that's exactly the point. No dinosaur ever "sprouted wings." The front legs just got longer, the feathers got better and the claws went away. If you compared Anchiornis to Pedopenna (its ancestor) you'd say "there's no difference! Well, almost none. Anchiornus just has more feathers. Neither one can fly anyway. It's microevolution, not macroevolution."

If you compared Anchiornus to Scansoriopteryx, you'd say "there's no difference! Well, almost none. Scansoriopteryx just has more feathers and slightly longer front legs. And it can glide just a little. But that's not a wing! It's microevolution, not macroevolution!"


If you compared Scansoriopteryx to Archaeopteryx, you'd say "there's no difference! Well, almost none. Scansoriopteryx just has more feathers and slightly longer front legs. And it can glide really well. But gliding isn't true flying! It's microevolution, not macroevolution!"

If you compared Archaeopteryx to Ichthyornis, you'd say "there's no difference! Well, almost none. Icthyornis looks similar, it just has a bigger breastbone and more muscles. And it can fly pretty well, but that's not much different than gliding. But a change in how a bird flies isn't that big a deal! It's microevolution, not macroevolution!"

But compare Pedopenna to a bald eagle and you ask "woah - I don't believe that little lizard just sprouted wings and turrned into an eagle. No way no how." But that's because it's easy to ignore those small changes which, over 200 million years, really do add up.

(And if you want to see this process in the middle, look up Idiurus Macrotis. It's a living transitional fossil.)

Again, it's next to impossible to believe that the Grand Canyon just popped into existence one day because of a little water. But give that little water 15 million years to do its work and what it creates can be mind-boggling.

Bill I didnt ignore this post I was bombarded in my post forum , and didnt have time to, I wanted to tell you I dont have an answer for this, and wont have time this week to look into it, but It has my attention and will definatley be looked into.....

( I really dont know why I take vacations quite honestly, whew! glad I'm home!!)
Let me say that when I started this post it wasnt to say why Im right and athiests are wrong. It is discussing apologetics because everywhere else in here there are plenty of that. Athiests are more than welcome in here otherwise its a few guys agreeing with each other. Ive had some post toward me that I didnt have an answer to and you can be sure Im going to look into them quite a bit more... I really dont want to change a mind of someone who doesnt want it changed, I want to argue my point have it argued back to me and if (when ) we dont agree, accept it.

Hey happy campers. Don't think I forgot about you all but I'm on an overnight vacation with the family. I'll get back Tommorow and maybe we can get this post back on track and all learn a thing it two from each other!

That's ok I just try and put myself out there to any and all people who have questions about this stuff. I have so much more information to share regarding the bible itself but I save that for people who have faith already. It's one thing to have some fun in a forum its another when I may help strengthen someone's beliefs it's such a great feeling!

You must have been so angry while you were hitting exclamation marks your third one was 1 LOL

I should start another thread I think, about why atheists are so angry....... Hmmmm maybe they need some good 'ol fashioned forgiveness. I have to thank you though, I started this thread for some fun interesting conversation and to the angry ones thanks for the laughs!!!

Because I put the presents under the tree. If Santa just decides not to come to our house then it goes against his commandment thou shall give toys to good boys and girls. If u ask how I know my kids are good I have first hand eyewitness testimony to it

That would be completely true except I can prove with 100% certainty that there is no Santa ( don't tell my kids) but for you there is lack of proof of God. You can't prove God doesnt exist so you shouldn't rule it out it is ( for an atheist ) an option that should be looked at from time to time to see if evidence has been brought to your attention that may change your mind.

Unfortunately atheist rule out the possibility of intelligent design for lack of proof and or the un believeability of miracles they refuse to provide proof for their own beliefs. Rather criticize other theists to defend their point of view. There is no substance in that when I see them start getting angry at me ( I love it by the way!) I know I'm hitting a nerve. That nerve is your conscience, listen to it...

The hardest thing to ask of a skeptic is to be skeptical about skepticism Try doubting doubt once in a while so at least your being consistent thats not a jab at anyone but I believe a reasonable request.

I haven't failed at all. You have failed to comprehend the obvious