Andy9o8

Serial child rape going on in the household. The people up-thread should eat crow until they gag.

turtlespeed

***It's pretty clear that McConnell has totally screwed the pooch in managing the Senate sinCe he's been in charge.

No worse than Reid.

Nonsense. We're talking about skill as a legislative house majority party leader, a political and management skill which has nothing to do with party affiliation.

McConnell's skill is no worse than, say, Daschle was, and he was awful. Reid was pretty skillful, and Pelosi was extremely skillful, but their party's in minority now, so that's that. Gingrich was extremely skillful, but he's out, too.

But neither McConnell nor Boehner are up to the job- they're lousy team coaches and they keep screwing up. They will hurt their party far more than help it.

Good to see you back on message, Clint.

Andy9o8

***>If corporations are people, how come no jail time for these crooks?

Because putting secretaries and accountants in jail for something they had very little part in makes no sense.

I think the query is more re: why the top corporate executives generally haven't been prosecuted individually.
The real answer is that while top corporate executives may very well face individual criminal liability either due to their own direct wrongdoing, or indirectly via the "Responsible Corporate Officer Doctrine", the top executives at the top (current and former) banking houses have enough financial resources on hand to pay civil penalties, and are sufficiently in bed with those occupying the upper echelons of government, that they effectively immunize themselves from being prosecuted. Why, for example, were Angelo Mozillo (Countrywide) or Kenneth Lewis (Bank of America) never criminally prosecuted? Well, that's why. So it's the top execs of small- and middling-sized companies that get nailed (with occasional sacrifical lambs like Madoff), while these guys walk. And so it goes.

And here's another example. So now GM is going to be held criminally liable for defective ignition switches that killed over 100 people. Think any top execs will be prosecuted individually? Don't bet on it. Why? Because they're GM. You can bet that the same execs in a smaller company would be going to jail.

"Too big to fail" is only half of it. "Too big to jail" is the other half.

Your indoctrination is impressive, but don't think for a moment that the Irish are any less so. And yet they have the perspective and insight to think for themselves and recognize what's right. See my comment above re Americans and the ash heap of history. At some point adherence to indoctrination cannot be explained away as anything other than arrogance.

And by a landslide. Historically one of the most socially conservative countries in Europe, and this is what they do. Yet one more issue on which so many Americans remain utterly clueless to how their attitudes are already relegated to the ash heap of history.

kallend

The state Should not be in the business of killing people.

Indeed. In the US, for the most part, it's usually the municipalities that do that.

quade

Strongly suggest finding a way to fix the shit holes they're fleeing from.

If people are fleeing from a country, that's the actual problem. The boat people are just the symptom.

But that's never going to happen, so it's unrealistic as an achievable solution. Shitholes will always exist, and they will always generate refugees.

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How do you see solving this problem, if at all?

Here's a novel idea: let them come into the country and do all the scut work and pick all your fruit and veggies, for sub-subsistence wages while living in deplorable conditions, so food prices stay nice and cheap. Then publicly demonize them as criminals and as stealers of jobs that you wouldn't do yourselves anyway.

In the meantime, make narcotics the most profitable production commodity in their home countries by keeping it illegal in your country, so that the home country will be so saturated by brutal criminal gangs that life will be, and remain, intolerable for ordinary people. Said ordinary people will then scramble head over foot to come into your country and do all your scut work so that their children can at least stay alive instead of dying young with a bullet through their head.

Thus, there will be an endless supply of this cheap labor which you love to hate but hate to admit you love. Oh, and be sure to go to church and extol family values. Rinse, repeat.

Trust me, this is a business model that's been proven successful for 100 years.

turtlespeed

***Thanks for sending me to the i net for a definition of "syndicalism"

Damn, I still can learn at 65+. :)

I didn't think he made any sense trying to say I was transferring ownership of a labor company to Obama.

But is his word. He gets the credit, thanks.

"He" who? You used it first in your post #6.

stayhigh

The most annoying question is, "where is my goggles?"

Tell me about it! Failure to use an appropriate plurative would annoy me, too.
Really, nobody tries anymore.

Suslique

what does saudi drifting has to do with isis?

I think the OP is playing 3 &1/2 degrees of separation.

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the doors automatically unlocked

One of the more butthole-stupid features in many cars...

SkyDekker

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^^This.^^ UN Resolution 1441, which "ended" the first Gulf War, gave as a condition of Hussein getting to stay in power that he had to PROVE he destroyed his Chem Wpns and other WMD program

Meh, I think Israel is in violation of most UN resolutions. I doubt the US really wants to use that line of reasoning for war.

the difference between 242 and 1441 is the difference between a carrot and a stick.

billvon

>What about all those years (read the Doonesbury cartoons -- excellent perspective)
>that inspectors were kept from their mission, then ultimately kicked out of the country?

That was definitely a problem. It was solved by the threat of war. The last report from the IAEA, just before they had to leave the country due to the impending invasion, was that they had found no evidence of a nuclear weapons program, and that they needed a few weeks to complete inspections. (Hussein had suddenly decided to cooperate when it looked like invasion was imminent.) Had we waited a few weeks, we could have achieved our publicly-stated objective of ensuring that Iraq did not have a nuclear weapons program.

Thing was, the reason we went into Iraq had nothing to do with our publicly-stated objective.

ETA: Amazon and I were thinking the same thing. The additional factor was that the chickenhawk neocons surrounding Bush were able to tap into his emotional immaturity and insecurity by triggering his Oedipus complex and sophomoric need to show up his dad. They wrote the check, and stuck it under his nose to sign. We think we were duped? He was the biggest dupe of us all.

You guys are all lousy straight men.

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who funds them?

I was thinking NASCAR.

turtlespeed

***A) If it isn't worse than tobacco or alcohol, legalize it.

B) Almost nothing is worse than alcohol or tobacco.

Almost nothing?

Death. Death is worse for you than alcohol or tobacco.
That's why attempting suicide is illegal. Bet you don't know what the penalty for that is.

Jumping with boxers is an emasculation waiting to happen.

cvfd1399

Yea all the "If your stopped by a cop" what to do cards that they give away has that pretty much at the top to say nothing and ask for a lawyer. But assholes like us like to say whats on our mind. Im pretty sure telling a cop hes being a dick isnt going to give him any actual evidence for court on your seat belt violation, but im pretty sure it helps him find your broken tail light.

You can also be sure that the little baggie of shit The Amazing Kreskin pulls from behind your ear (Presto!) will be YOURS by the time you're in court. And guess what? It will stay that way!

Remster

******>If corporations are people, how come no jail time for these crooks?

Because putting secretaries and accountants in jail for something they had very little part in makes no sense.

I think the query is more re: why the top corporate executives generally haven't been prosecuted individually.
The real answer is that while top corporate executives may very well face individual criminal liability either due to their own direct wrongdoing, or indirectly via the "Responsible Corporate Officer Doctrine", the top executives at the top (current and former) banking houses have enough financial resources on hand to pay civil penalties, and are sufficiently in bed with those occupying the upper echelons of government, that they effectively immunize themselves from being prosecuted. Why, for example, were Angelo Mozillo (Countrywide) or Kenneth Lewis (Bank of America) never criminally prosecuted? Well, that's why. So it's the top execs of small- and middling-sized companies that get nailed (with occasional sacrifical lambs like Madoff), while these guys walk. And so it goes.

No, but seriously, why is it?

Oh, you funny man! You want it simpler? Fine!
Because everyone who is anyone is corrupt.

cvfd1399

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You cannot take that chance of which cop you'll get.

Cops cant take that chance that your NOT a serial killer either. I treat all cops as the nice good ones until I find out otherwise then I respond in kind. Social media is a huge tool to hit directly at the heart of your problem with local government especially if a tax is coming up.

There are a few times we have had this work great! One was a motorcycle cop acting an ass to a homeowner who's barn was on fire, and he would not let him pass his "roadblock" to get to his animals that were now on the loose, he even gave him a ticket for disobeying an officer, and as soon as it hit the city's Facebook it got taken care of REAL FAST!

Look, lemme make it simple for you. The rebuttable default is: unless you're a lawyer yourself, what you think might help you can actually hurt you, but you won't find out until too late (when your lawyer tells you you shoulda just stfu). Therefore, just stfu until you lawyer up.

Let me help you.

As a general rule: If you do This with cops,

you will become

This.

Any questions?

Hundreds of nuanced e-mails? That's Too Much Stuff® . Cliff Notes exists for a reason: people don't want to read shit, much less figure it out. Find some lowbrow sound bytes to appeal to the American audience, and maybe you'll get some traction.

billvon

>If corporations are people, how come no jail time for these crooks?

Because putting secretaries and accountants in jail for something they had very little part in makes no sense.

I think the query is more re: why the top corporate executives generally haven't been prosecuted individually.
The real answer is that while top corporate executives may very well face individual criminal liability either due to their own direct wrongdoing, or indirectly via the "Responsible Corporate Officer Doctrine", the top executives at the top (current and former) banking houses have enough financial resources on hand to pay civil penalties, and are sufficiently in bed with those occupying the upper echelons of government, that they effectively immunize themselves from being prosecuted. Why, for example, were Angelo Mozillo (Countrywide) or Kenneth Lewis (Bank of America) never criminally prosecuted? Well, that's why. So it's the top execs of small- and middling-sized companies that get nailed (with occasional sacrifical lambs like Madoff), while these guys walk. And so it goes.