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Posts posted by Andy9o8

  1. wolfriverjoe

    *********dumb. The TM should never have let that happen.

    Yes because we let our students take cellphones on jumps for this exact purpose.

    More likely the student was a douche nozzle, and despite being told to empty their pockets fully they snuck their phone on to the jump and pulled it out unannounced and unplanned.

    Would the pilot be in jeopardy of an enforcement action/lawsuit if the phone was dropped and caused injury/damage?

    "It Depends." (stock answer to just about any legal question, thanks Prof Schaefer)

    If the DZ has a policy of "empty your pockets, no phones or cameras on the jump", and this "douche nozzle" student violated that policy and snuck the phone on the jump, then probably not.

    Most lawyers would probably answer: Would the pilot, as well as the TM, the DZO, the S&TA, and the airport owner all be at risk of a lawsuit or enforcement action - even with the best "policy" possible in place? Absolutely yes, because, as the saying goes, "In the US, you can sue anyone for anything. But that doesn't mean you'll necessarily win."

    Now then: Might they have viable defenses that might eventually get them off the hook? Maybe, maybe not, but even if so, only after a long, aggravating process (maybe multiple processes), and only after spending many thousands of dollars in (often un-recoverable) legal fees.
    Are the pilot, TM, DZO, etc guaranteed to win based on that defense? No. Why not? Well, if such an incident did occur it arguably means that they failed to search the student well enough pre-jump to effectively enforce their strict policy. (Unless it's stuck up the student's asshole. Or worse.)
    And for the DZO, even if he wins the case(s), it might still give him future trouble obtaining affordable insurance, and/or it might provoke hostile airport access opposition.

  2. Prolly_Nervous

    Others have recommended I do a tandem as well . I think I'll do one tomorrow before my next jump with my instructors . Get use to the freefall feeling, sights and the sounds will make it easier for my AFF for sure

    Go for it, man. Remember, I'm some guy on the Internet, so it must be true! ;)

  3. Does your DZ offer tandem jumps? If so, there's no shame in making a tandem jump now, so you'll have nothing to do on the jump but float there and let your brain acclimate to freefall, and then the TI even takes care of flying and landing the canopy. Other students have done that during AFF for exactly the same reason; you can, too. Give it a thought.

  4. Hopefully you and your instructors will hit it off with each other better for your next jump. That said, being a new skydiving student is stressful enough without personalities adding to it. And it works both ways - sometimes instructors aren't as patient as they might be, but sometimes certain students can have particularly "needy" personalities, too. Each can be tough for the other person to deal with. None of us were there at your DZ to see it and judge for ourselves.

    Every person has his own personality, and every DZ has its own culture and vibe. Sometimes new students quit the sport because of personality or culture issues, when maybe all they needed was a "change of scenery" to stick with it. If you have the same trouble clicking with your instructors the next couple of jumps - whether it's them, or it's you - maybe you might consider switching either to different instructors or to a different DZ.


    P.S. - huge sensory overload, especially on one's first jump, is very normal. My first jump was a static line jump. I remember the jumpmaster saying "Go!", then I remember a fully-inflated canopy over my head. The 5 seconds in between are a complete blank. Very normal.

  5. nolhtairt

    ***Why you people re-publishing their bullshit? So it can get even more Google hits? You're enabling the weird kid in the back of the classroom who wants bad attention.

    It's so we can make fun of and ridicule the weird kid in the back of the classroom. Maybe she'll blow a fuse someday

    Those are the people who commit mass murders. Why do you support the creation of mass murderers?

    Take note of the name of the place where she just happens to live. Coincidence? I think not.

  6. MrGrumpie

    *** As long as you've tried them a few time and can live with being thrown anything from 90 to 360 degrees off heading in the later part of the opening they are in my opinion great canopies.

    Interesting you mention this. I've recently got a Sabre2 190 with about 250 jumps on it; my body position is pretty good on deployment, and I've always been rock solid...but with the Sabre2 I consistently get anything between 90 degree and 360 turns on deployment.

    I'll look up to see it snivelling nicely, but right at the end it decides to go nuts on me. The slider typically stays up a long time (often have to use rear risers to bring it down), and I almost always have end cell closure on the left side.

    Some of the 360s are quite violent, but once it settles down it flies beautifully. The toggle pressure seems much higher than other canopies I've jumped, but the flare is endless. Where people find themselves running off nil wind landings, this can stop dead. Although I'm also finding I can push the flare just a little bit too much and have the canopy "pop up" right at the end.

    Anyone else experience these characteristics?

    Yes, as to all points (pro & con), on Sabre-2's that I've borrowed or rented from time to time. That said, I'm one of those who loves my Pilot. But that's because I love the openings and the long glide; and the flare is quite fine - for me. I'd happily get another one. That said, I agree with the others that the OP seems to be valuing the flare highly. If a powerful flare is your #1 priority, you don't mind the wonkiness on opening, and you want to stick to an intermediate canopy, the Sabre-2 seems like a good choice.

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    this is becoming way off topic

    Is it? Strictly from the outside looking in, it does seem to be relevant to whether a newer jumper in the UK realistically can feel free to voice safety concerns to the guys in charge, or whether he'd better just STFU if he knows what's good for him, for fear of being punished at his DZ and perhaps even banned from jumping in the UK. I'm not saying that either is or is not the case, but this isn't the first time this has been discussed in the international skydiving community, and it's certainly on-topic with the OP.

    I'd like to hear all the voices address the issue.

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    I've never heard a GOOD reason to automatically throw away either handle when you cutaway.

    With "piggyback" equipment (both main & reserve on back), agreed.
    Back when you & I were trained on chest-mounted reserves (which were free-packed, to boot), my DZs taught students to throw away the main ripcord before reserve deployment to avoid possible reserve entanglement with a main ripcord still partly in its housing.

  9. The cure for careless packers is simple: once a day, they must take a high-performance canopy with a high wing loading, pack it (come hell or high water) within 3 minutes, and then jump it themselves at terminal, pulling no higher than 2500. That'll learn 'em some religion.

  10. oldwomanc6

    I'm curious just what laws this guy broke by parking it there. The article doesn't say.

    Yeah not very good reporting, especially given his comment on people parking their boats.

  11. Oh, I presume they did, too. Did they do so in writing? Not just generally, but every bit and nuance of it? Because if not, it could be an interesting he-said/she-said. And gosh!- that's what juries are for, aren't they?


    Hey, I mean... consultations are free, right?

  12. wmw999

    Yes, I think it does go back that far or close. But more importantly, no one ever actually flat packed a Unit. You pick it up and trash pack it, stuffing it into the container willy-nilly. It's the only way it would ever actually open :P Wendy P.

    You used a container? Wuss.

  13. Just throwing this out there: is it possible the current landing characteristics of your PD 190 are, at least partly, affected by the age/permeability of the fabric? How well does it flare anymore?
    Also, if the Unit - which is what, 30 - 35 years old? - has been well-jumped, wouldn't fabric permeability be an issue with that one, too? And if it's one of the 200 sq ft canopies, would that land much slower than your 190?

    Again, these are just questions, and I'm sure as heck not a rigger. I'm humbly open-minded to learning.