kvnhlstd

^^^^ Are you LO ing this weekend???

Welcome to the sport brother... I live in Mesa and jump at SkydiveAZ... I used the wileyX goggles they issued me for usually sandbox deployment until I could buy and wear a Cookie G3.

Drove by the Scottsdale site last week... They are still in the process of moving dirt around.

Thoughts and prayers to you and the family...
Had the pleasure of meeting and befriending Marius during our AFF schooling, we would laugh all day long while learning this great sport. Really great guy that always smiled and treated you like you were part of his family. I will miss his adventures posted on Facebook.

JohnMitchell

***Right... started the turn then just dove in to a right hand spiral dive. I was thinking that maybe I just pulled to hard on the right rear riser and stalled out the right side of the canopy causing it to dive to the right???

Could be. I'm not a rigger or canopy piloting expert, but I know it takes less to stall a canopy using the rear risers than it does using the toggles. I'm glad you had plenty of altitude.

Agreed... Lucky I had altitude to recover.... bad that it made a long spot impossible to make back. minor complaint since landing out at SDAZ is better than most. Plus it turns into a treasure hunt looking for dropped gear. :)

NvyZero

the above post from eriklivesfr33 was actually by me forgot to logout of my buddies account.

Cool... Thanks for the comment, I will have my rigger look at the lines

Remster

******On serious note, certain canopies will do exactly what you described.

Most of them will stop on its own. After like 3,4,5 revolution, if you don't have patience to wait for it then grab the toggle and make things even.

Can you imagine having that spin plus line twist?

Sorry I was late, I was busy giving bad advices on the other threads.

Luv it... Thanks for the "serious" input. I think this weekend I need to do a late afternoon high pull and play some more with it... see how long it goes.

The boogie isn't the best time for high pulls. Lots of loads, sometimes parallel jumpruns.


Ok Dad.... We'll talk. Looking like we might be down Friday... sky vans all day :). I saw you are not on the schedule... I'll let you know once we lock it down.

stayhigh

On serious note, certain canopies will do exactly what you described.

Most of them will stop on its own. After like 3,4,5 revolution, if you don't have patience to wait for it then grab the toggle and make things even.

Can you imagine having that spin plus line twist?

Sorry I was late, I was busy giving bad advices on the other threads.

Luv it... Thanks for the "serious" input. I think this weekend I need to do a late afternoon high pull and play some more with it... see how long it goes.

What took you so long.... :) I expected you about 10 comments ago.

Same on mine I assume. I took the Axis Flight canopy course and on the first hop we were told to check the slack and see at what point does the canopy change flight characteristics. It does fly true and straight.

It does feel like a stall once the rear riser is induced, though I never got the buffeting and never see the tail of the canopy fluttering or bucking prior.

Agreed... it sounds like we both had the same induced dive, though mine did start a slow spin as it dove. probably because I rode it out a little longer to see if it would self correct. I am going to have the lines looked at again and measured by the riggers at SDAZ. Probably going to have the lineset replaced anyway.

Right... started the turn then just dove in to a right hand spiral dive. I was thinking that maybe I just pulled to hard on the right rear riser and stalled out the right side of the canopy causing it to dive to the right???

I open facing away from the LZ and started a right rear riser turn... I do stow all the excess line behind the riser in the line keeper. Both toggles looked stowed and I could feel the trim release when I pulled down on the toggles once I got the canopy flattened out.

I bought it used... the number told to me was a guesstimate, probably around 500 or so... so at least 555 by now. Had it inspected when I bought it. They told me a new line set would be in its future...

No chance... brakes were stowed. I had had a brake fire when jumping student rigs, this looked and acted like a brake fire but the brakes remained stowed until after I pulled both rear risers to get it out of the spiral spin and unstowed the toggles.
Thanks for the input and question though...

Looking to get a answer on a canopy situation...
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Jump number 95

Jump went according to plan other than a rather long spot and my track taking me even further out. Pitched at 3500 and fully open in the saddle at 2900 ish. The opening had me 180 so after checking my surrounding airspace I initiated a rear riser turn to the right, the toggles were still stowed. The canopy turned about 80 degrees and proceed to put me into a diving spiral turn, I grabbed both rear risers and pulled hard and stopped the spin and flattened out the flight of the canopy. The spins burned off almost 800 feet quickly and I ended up off LZ landing just north east of the tunnel for the SDAZ reference point. Nice thing was I landed about 50 yds from a cut away of another jumper so I was able to get a ride in. Question... was the hard spin induced by my possibly stalling out the right rear of the canopy, already in a braked flight mode w/ stowed toggles??? or is it something else??? This happened one other time and I have jumped this canopy over 50 jumps now.

mattjw916

***Eloy has a wind tunnel, and their AFF course comes with 10 minutes with an instructor. They have places to sleep, laundry, pretty much everything you need to stay there. You can jump all year around. Right now planes fly every day. Its a good place, but it will cost you around $4k+ to earn your A license since they want you to do the remaining 14 jumps coached after your AFF until you receive your A.

I always thought all those coach jumps in Eloy's program were a distinct advantage having gone through the program myself over a decade ago.


Completely agree... I was able to work on different exits, tracking, and linking up. Some of the best coaches in the biz. It was money well spent in my opinion.

Remster

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I love you too, honey.

Yea, your'e not bad.... though you always cause me to go low. :)

5 minutes from the house... and a golf course next door!!!! a dream come true.

Wish I would have known it before I retired. Now I look forward to my retirement benefits being cut, no social security, and no curv discount. But hey I'm still breathing so I have that going for me.

Welcome to AZ and the nice weather.... along with a great dropzone. Might be at the safety day on Sat, starts after the last load lands

Coming from a military police background... I would grab the computer, kids and bank info and move out. turn over the evidence of adultery to NCIS, get full custody of the kids once she is discharged and without a job, and work an at risk assignment away from the two of them.

That guys look in the plane after your jump was awesome... that is all.

I learned a long time ago when I was cycling on the road to carry a road ID bracelet. All my contact info as well as my known allergies are on the bracelet. I would add to check for the bracelet on the wrist or ankle if the patient is unconscious or unable to answer questions.