Do not generalize "psych drugs" I have read this from you in varios thread's.
"psychiatric medication is a drug taken to exert an effect on the mental state and used to treat mental disorders. Usually prescribed in psychiatric settings, these medications are typically made of synthetic chemical compounds..." (from Wikipedia) I only generalize in this (mind altering) meaning. (Also - just to avoid generalization - I only posted on ONE thread that had anything to do with psych drugs.)
The opening thread was asking for input. Definiton of input as per Encarta: "a contribution to something, especially comments or suggestions made" In this regard your opinion is just as much respectable and relevant as anybody else's including mine. One among all the others that can give a different perspective.
Yes, I was stupid when I took that, no doubt - I don't have a problem seeing that. Others can learn from it just like I did.
I don't go by anecdotal information - I can give you the link where I read it here on dz.com. Her case and opinion is of course different but one could consider it as a valuable INPUT because the subject is very similar.
(BTW- Some of the possible side effects of Xanax as per drugs.com: dizziness; drowsiness; lightheadedness; tiredness; trouble concentrating; unsteadiness; depression, irritability, anxiety; suicidal thoughts or actions.)
I don't take psych drugs and don't believe in them. I only took 1 pc of xanax a long time ago, was given to me on a Sat night party. Next day I was feeling really weird, I got so paranoid at work that ended up making a scene with a co-worker and got myself fired. I know about a girl who quit skydiving because she started taking those meds. It does alter your mind. You need a clear one up there. For your and for others' safety. At least this is how I see it.
Straight to AFF for me :) Its just something I know I will love and I think I will prefer doing that than a tandem :)
Matt, that was my thinking too. Then a friend of mine, with a goodly amount of skydiving experience, talked me into some tunnel time, and then a tandem. I can tell you that each of those experiences made my first AFF jump much more enjoyable. I knew I could be stable and fly my body, and I knew what it was like to exit the plane at 13,500 feet,
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actually free fall, fly under canopy, and land. I was really ready and just had fun with the tasks in the AFF jump.
I am sure you will like it no matter which path you take.
Blue skies!
I totally agree with you. I started with 2 tandems than after failing a rejump on AFF3 did some tunnel time which helped me tremendously! I only wished I did that earlier... The confidence you gain and the money you save on rejumps....
Right on, that is brave! I did tandem first and would recommend that to everybody because it gives you the feeling and clue what is going to happen. It really is more like just a hint, doing it on your own is WAY different ... but still... Blue skies, have fun and keep us posted how it went!
I liked it! Congrats! Gotta say this is pretty darn good! Almost as good as Hungarian hip-hop.
I'm glad you did, to bad it is only almost as good as hehe, but probably would be just as good as if the song was named "Hungarian Ladies"?:)
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We could collect a bunch of data and do a real research paper based strictly on numbers ... Such as doing polls on how many times did you have sex in the past 5 years vs. how many times did you jump in the last 5 years
the question to be asked is then, whether the paper would be based on a qualitative or quantitative study...
back to the main focus again, a couple of more answers and experience sharing regarding skydiving would really be appreciated...then I would have enough information for the song...
Sorry, we got sidetracked here. My only excuse for that is that I am in bed all day with a lower back injury and have all the time to twist thoughts and words around.
Yepper. I had two tandems before I decided to do AFF and on those I was not nervous at all, was just a really a fun, cool thing. AFF1 though was a WHOLE different ball game ... You are no longer there "just for the ride". Have to act, react and control - all of it at the same time in a situation where you have never been before and nobody really could fully train you for. And it is very freaking loud and windy!!! They will teach you and show you everything they possibly can. And it still is going to be a giant leap to the unknown... LOL Don't want to discourage you, on the contrary! Trying to give you some reality on what to expect. Also I am sure it is different for everybody... I was speechless for hours and in a shock after AFF1. Just could not believe that I was still alive, against all the odds... LOL ... But it was and has been since the most amazing experience of my life. So get ready! And keep us posted!!!
yeah, all those smilies... Can you tell that it is my third month in bed? LOL
I still think skydiving gives me a better high than painmeds. I hate taking drugs. First two-three weeks I was ok on some ibuprofen mostly. Nothing after that. Once or twice had to take some Darvocet. One of them gave me a fun afternoon when I forgot that I took it and had two glasses of red wine right after...
Hm... I was more like comparing the two, not identifying them. Maybe we should start a new thead to find out which one gives more pleasure and see if they are comparable... LOL
Direct comparison testing?
We could collect a bunch of data and do a real research paper based strictly on numbers ... Such as doing polls on how many times did you have sex in the past 5 years vs. how many times did you jump in the last 5 years Could call it the s:s ratio. (I wonder how many of us keep a logbook for that ... LOL)
Keep a good arch all the way through freefall. And make sure you go over and over again the landing part - that is just as important as the rest of it! I am talking from experience Keep us posted how it went!
I liked the sex-comparison the best! Skydiving and sex are both the kind of things you wanna do and get the feeling instead of talking about it and describe them in words.
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so maybe an approach could be use skydiving as a metaphor for the act of making love? haha would that justify it?
Hm... I was more like comparing the two, not identifying them. Maybe we should start a new thead to find out which one gives more pleasure and see if they are comparable... LOL
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one thing I'm really curious about is, while being in the air and moving down in a crazy speed, what goes through your mind? are you able to think and such or are you being too caught up in the moment and just being present??
It is being FULLY and ONLY in the moment and enjoying the hell out of it! Without the spark of any distraction that you normally deal with every minute of your everyday life. In that way yes, a form of freedom - and pleasure for your senses and your mind.
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Why don't you challenge yourself and try a tandem for real?
I feel like I'm not really there mentally yet to really have the courage to try. All those videos I've watched about skydiving make me dream of that "day" but for the moment those videos are the closest thing I'll ever come to true "freedom", cause in my mind that is one thing I associate with sky diving, or am I wrong?
I liked the sex-comparison the best! Skydiving and sex are both the kind of things you wanna do and get the feeling instead of talking about it and describe them in words. Words are the hardest to associate with it - pictures, photos and music I can see easier...If I really had to use words they would be: amazing, liberating, exhilarating, breathtaking.
I don't think I would wanna write a song about snow skiing - never tried it. Why don't you challenge yourself and try a tandem for real? It is safe and the closest you can get to the real feeling! Something like sex with a condom
Thank you for the wishes. I shall return! I gave a lengthy and detailed answer to skymama today, that should answer your questions. If there is more please let me know!!! Also wanna know how you are progressing on AFF!!! Blue skies,
You are welcome! The desire to skydive again is the one that keeps my spirits up and gives me the willpower to want to live - and that is quite something in my situation. I am sure you will be much better on the AFF than I am - just listen and learn everything they show you and tell you and repeat, repeat, repeat again and again all details and moves!!!! Best wishes, Sarolta
My main problem was the freefall since the beginning and tunnel training helped me with that tremendously. Also had some re- and coachjumps too. On Jan 18th this 8th jump was a coach one (so I can pass AFF4 confidently) and was my best so far. Good exit, good arch, I was stable, Randy flew in front of me, I stayed on heading, did 360 turn, waved, pulled, had a beautiful open canopy, took some turns, found holding area, stayed altitude aware, turned upwind finally and than made the mistake I never did before and flared too high. Was bad judgement of height, probably mostly coming from looking at the ground instead of looking out 45 degrees.
By the time I heard Randy on the radio telling me not to was too late and could not do much about it - it was not high enough to get an other lift... So I was plunging to the ground without anything slowing me down and freaking out about it, so eventually I made mistake #2 and did not remember doing the PLF. Hit the ground real hard with my ass. Was no bouncing, just pain in my lower back and when Randy asked me over the radio to wave if I was ok I could not do it.
Than everybody was running, ambulance got there pretty fast, spine board, morphine, all the good stuff. I remember I kept saying I was ok and they kept telling me: "no, you are not ok. Dont move." What I meant by ok was that I was able to move all my legs and arms, Zephyrhills Hospital was not my favorite with a bunch of mishaps (eg. the nurse left me alone with the bedpan forever and I had to be stretching over it with my broken back so it wont spill - was no fun), so my advise to everybody is to avoid that place! To make it short, I ended up with compression fracture on 2 lumbar vertebraes which takes 4-6 weeks to heal, so I should be ok by now. The reason why I am starting my 3rd month in bed and out of work, going for thereapy every day is THAT weak disc I had problems years ago and thinned to the point that the impact made a hernia on it. Xrays, MRI, doctors - I am doing alternative therapy to avoid surgery and I really am feeling better. What I learnt from it and others can, and the reason why I go into this much length and details are: 1.) even though I thought I was perfectly healthy - I was not. (I worked two jobs, was biking, running, exercising, etc.) There was a weak point that with time would have given me hell for sure, but the impact of the accident just aggrevated it instantly. 2.) Can never stop learning and paying 200% attention to every move you do in situations like this, especially when you are not proficient and fully competent yet. Talk and listen to all who are experienced as much as you can. 3.) Skydiving is a dangerous sport. 4.) It could have been a LOT worse. 5.) Stupid hurts. 6.) Pain meds are much less fun than skydiving. No matter who says what!!!
Yes, despite ALL this I still want to go back and jump again. The last 3 jumps gave me the real feeling I was initially looking for but even a 10.000 times better than I ever imagined it!! If it takes a year, I take that, because after living for 35 years without it and spending all the time trying to find the ONE single thing that is missing and finally completes me - that I found in skydiving. I can only think sky now ... And happy to share everything with like-minded individuals!!!
Well, this was the short version of what happened and how I feel now - hope you made it through all the way...
My name is Sarolta and I was about 8 years old when watching parachuting on tv I knew that one day I would do it myself. Did 2 tandems to start with ('06 and '07) and absolutely loved them - they made me to get started on AFF in Oct 2008. OMG, I will NEVER forget that first jump ever!!! It was just so intense and exhilarating... I was speechless for 3 hours afterwards!!! More jumps, rejumps and tunnel time gave me more confidence after... Without a doubt this is the most amazing thing I have experienced in my life so far and (even though I am taking a big break now due to an injury related to a double landing error... ) I can't wait to get back doing it again! Until than I am wishing the best and the bluest skies to everybody and thanking my instructor, Randy all that he taught me and did for me - as well as everybody who helped me in the dz in Zhills. You guys are the best!!! (Photo by Laszlo Andacs aka laszloimage)
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In this regard your opinion is just as much respectable and relevant as anybody else's including mine. One among all the others that can give a different perspective.
Yes, I was stupid when I took that, no doubt - I don't have a problem seeing that. Others can learn from it just like I did.
I don't go by anecdotal information - I can give you the link where I read it here on dz.com. Her case and opinion is of course different but one could consider it as a valuable INPUT because the subject is very similar.
(BTW- Some of the possible side effects of Xanax as per drugs.com: dizziness; drowsiness; lightheadedness; tiredness; trouble concentrating; unsteadiness; depression, irritability, anxiety; suicidal thoughts or actions.)
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I don't take psych drugs and don't believe in them. I only took 1 pc of xanax a long time ago, was given to me on a Sat night party. Next day I was feeling really weird, I got so paranoid at work that ended up making a scene with a co-worker and got myself fired.
I know about a girl who quit skydiving because she started taking those meds. It does alter your mind. You need a clear one up there. For your and for others' safety. At least this is how I see it.
Heylo everyone
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I totally agree with you. I started with 2 tandems than after failing a rejump on AFF3 did some tunnel time which helped me tremendously! I only wished I did that earlier... The confidence you gain and the money you save on rejumps....
Heylo everyone
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Right on, that is brave! I did tandem first and would recommend that to everybody because it gives you the feeling and clue what is going to happen. It really is more like just a hint, doing it on your own is WAY different ... but still...
Blue skies, have fun and keep us posted how it went!
Heylo everyone
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All skydivers I need your help!
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Sorry, we got sidetracked here. My only excuse for that is that I am in bed all day with a lower back injury and have all the time to twist thoughts and words around.
New to jumping and forums.
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Yepper. I had two tandems before I decided to do AFF and on those I was not nervous at all, was just a really a fun, cool thing. AFF1 though was a WHOLE different ball game ... You are no longer there "just for the ride". Have to act, react and control - all of it at the same time in a situation where you have never been before and nobody really could fully train you for. And it is very freaking loud and windy!!! They will teach you and show you everything they possibly can. And it still is going to be a giant leap to the unknown... LOL
Don't want to discourage you, on the contrary! Trying to give you some reality on what to expect. Also I am sure it is different for everybody... I was speechless for hours and in a shock after AFF1. Just could not believe that I was still alive, against all the odds... LOL ... But it was and has been since the most amazing experience of my life.
So get ready! And keep us posted!!!
Fairly new girl in the Florida sky
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yeah, all those smilies... Can you tell that it is my third month in bed? LOL
I still think skydiving gives me a better high than painmeds. I hate taking drugs. First two-three weeks I was ok on some ibuprofen mostly. Nothing after that. Once or twice had to take some Darvocet. One of them gave me a fun afternoon when I forgot that I took it and had two glasses of red wine right after...
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We could collect a bunch of data and do a real research paper based strictly on numbers ... Such as doing polls on how many times did you have sex in the past 5 years vs. how many times did you jump in the last 5 years Could call it the s:s ratio.
(I wonder how many of us keep a logbook for that ... LOL)
New skydiver from Columbia, SC
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Keep a good arch all the way through freefall. And make sure you go over and over again the landing part - that is just as important as the rest of it! I am talking from experience
Keep us posted how it went!
All skydivers I need your help!
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Hm... I was more like comparing the two, not identifying them. Maybe we should start a new thead to find out which one gives more pleasure and see if they are comparable... LOL
It is being FULLY and ONLY in the moment and enjoying the hell out of it! Without the spark of any distraction that you normally deal with every minute of your everyday life. In that way yes, a form of freedom - and pleasure for your senses and your mind.
May I ask how old are you?
I liked it! Congrats! Gotta say this is pretty darn good! Almost as good as Hungarian hip-hop.
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Yeah, specially being on top...
All skydivers I need your help!
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I liked the sex-comparison the best! Skydiving and sex are both the kind of things you wanna do and get the feeling instead of talking about it and describe them in words. Words are the hardest to associate with it - pictures, photos and music I can see easier...If I really had to use words they would be: amazing, liberating, exhilarating, breathtaking.
I don't think I would wanna write a song about snow skiing - never tried it. Why don't you challenge yourself and try a tandem for real? It is safe and the closest you can get to the real feeling! Something like sex with a condom
Fairly new girl in the Florida sky
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Thank you for the wishes. I shall return!
I gave a lengthy and detailed answer to skymama today, that should answer your questions. If there is more please let me know!!! Also wanna know how you are progressing on AFF!!!
Blue skies,
Sarolta
Fairly new girl in the Florida sky
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Best wishes,
Sarolta
Fairly new girl in the Florida sky
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LOL
My main problem was the freefall since the beginning and tunnel training helped me with that tremendously. Also had some re- and coachjumps too. On Jan 18th this 8th jump was a coach one (so I can pass AFF4 confidently) and was my best so far.
Good exit, good arch, I was stable, Randy flew in front of me, I stayed on heading, did 360 turn, waved, pulled, had a beautiful open canopy, took some turns, found holding area, stayed altitude aware, turned upwind finally and than made the mistake I never did before and flared too high. Was bad judgement of height, probably mostly coming from looking at the ground instead of looking out 45 degrees.
By the time I heard Randy on the radio telling me not to was too late and could not do much about it - it was not high enough to get an other lift... So I was plunging to the ground without anything slowing me down and freaking out about it, so eventually I made mistake #2 and did not remember doing the PLF. Hit the ground real hard with my ass. Was no bouncing, just pain in my lower back and when Randy asked me over the radio to wave if I was ok I could not do it.
Than everybody was running, ambulance got there pretty fast, spine board, morphine, all the good stuff. I remember I kept saying I was ok and they kept telling me: "no, you are not ok. Dont move." What I meant by ok was that I was able to move all my legs and arms,
Zephyrhills Hospital was not my favorite with a bunch of mishaps (eg. the nurse left me alone with the bedpan forever and I had to be stretching over it with my broken back so it wont spill - was no fun), so my advise to everybody is to avoid that place!
To make it short, I ended up with compression fracture on 2 lumbar vertebraes which takes 4-6 weeks to heal, so I should be ok by now. The reason why I am starting my 3rd month in bed and out of work, going for thereapy every day is THAT weak disc I had problems years ago and thinned to the point that the impact made a hernia on it. Xrays, MRI, doctors - I am doing alternative therapy to avoid surgery and I really am feeling better.
What I learnt from it and others can, and the reason why I go into this much length and details are:
1.) even though I thought I was perfectly healthy - I was not. (I worked two jobs, was biking, running, exercising, etc.) There was a weak point that with time would have given me hell for sure, but the impact of the accident just aggrevated it instantly.
2.) Can never stop learning and paying 200% attention to every move you do in situations like this, especially when you are not proficient and fully competent yet. Talk and listen to all who are experienced as much as you can.
3.) Skydiving is a dangerous sport.
4.) It could have been a LOT worse. 5.) Stupid hurts.
6.) Pain meds are much less fun than skydiving. No matter who says what!!!
Yes, despite ALL this I still want to go back and jump again. The last 3 jumps gave me the real feeling I was initially looking for but even a 10.000 times better than I ever imagined it!! If it takes a year, I take that, because after living for 35 years without it and spending all the time trying to find the ONE single thing that is missing and finally completes me - that I found in skydiving. I can only think sky now ... And happy to share everything with like-minded individuals!!!
Well, this was the short version of what happened and how I feel now - hope you made it through all the way...
Blue skies, I shall return!
Sarolta
Fairly new girl in the Florida sky
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OMG, I will NEVER forget that first jump ever!!! It was just so intense and exhilarating... I was speechless for 3 hours afterwards!!! More jumps, rejumps and tunnel time gave me more confidence after... Without a doubt this is the most amazing thing I have experienced in my life so far and (even though I am taking a big break now due to an injury related to a double landing error... ) I can't wait to get back doing it again! Until than I am wishing the best and the bluest skies to everybody and thanking my instructor, Randy all that he taught me and did for me - as well as everybody who helped me in the dz in Zhills. You guys are the best!!!
(Photo by Laszlo Andacs aka laszloimage)
Hello, everybody. I had my first jump yesterday.
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