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QuoteWould you participate in sport skydiving if a rate of fatal malfunctions is ~10 percent?
It is like asking if you would partcipate in russian roulette with four more chances than with a six shotgun. With all due respect, only people with suicidal tendencies would abide. And, honestly, I don-t think military parachuting fits the description.
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QuoteWho said anything about fun? Real skydivers don't need a dial they use their eyes.....
No comment!
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QuoteAll in all, while I've never intentionally boarded the plane without an alti, I have given mine (in the plane) to students/TMs who needed one, and I don't think twice about doing so. I should hope anyone with a couple hundred jumps and not jumping with students shouldn't have any problems doing the same!
100% agreed
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QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteAlways wear an altimeter Period...
With all due respect to your vast experience, don't take me wrong but not wearing an altimeter just adds one uncertainty factor to your jump, regardless of the altitude of it. That uncertainty factor may or may not be important but it's there... and very modestly I think it shouldn't be there... in any jump.
If you do a low hop & pop, you don't need an alti to tell you when you're at your hard deck; you're already there. If you need an alti to be able to fly a safe pattern to a safe landing under canopy, you seriously need a canopy course.
I think my post was respectful enough not to deserve irony and sarcasm.
To purposefully jump without an altimeter does not add an inch to safety and may turn out to be a mistake (nobody's perfect and even very experienced people can occasionally have a bad moment and misjudge altitude).
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And I would still like to know what's the particular fun or thrill in jumping without an altimeter?
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QuoteQuoteAlways wear an altimeter Period...
With all due respect to your vast experience, don't take me wrong but not wearing an altimeter just adds one uncertainty factor to your jump, regardless of the altitude of it. That uncertainty factor may or may not be important but it's there... and very modestly I think it shouldn't be there... in any jump.
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-Always wear an altimeter on demos in screwy winds with no good outs. Well any demo for that matter.
What's the particular fun or thrill in jumping without an altimeter? I would rephrase it just like this:
Always wear an altimeter Period...
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I just noticed this in the official USPA's "How to start skydiving" page:
"Skydiving is simple, safe and life-changing."
It makes skydiving appear as a little too innocent as a sport compared to reality.
Just a suggestion, wouldn't people known for their experience and commitment to safety like you, for example, have to address USPA for them to change that statement concerning safety and rephrase it?
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And this thread is on fire? It's true what they say then...us skydivers, we are nuts!
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QuoteOf course skydiving isn't 100% safe, i think we've beaten that horse to death in these last 7 pages.
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I think I can safely say there isn't a skydiver in the world that thinks they are going to die as they are walking up to the plane. But i am sure that most do a proper gear check and are able to make (in their eyes) the best decisions possible to come back to the hanger in one piece. So is skydiving 100% safe, no. There are ways to lower risk but that will always be apart of this sport. You just need to calculate risk vs. reward and see if this is something that you should be doing. Which is obviously going to be different from one person to the next so I don't really see how we can sway people from one side of the argument to the other.
First of all let me say that I am surprised that a poll I posted in January 2004 and had had no activity since then resurfaced in June 2009 after more than 5 years! And the intensity with which it did confirms that this is a much present topic in the community. Nobody doubts that it is risky. And only fools could claim that it is 100% safe. After all this discussion the conclusion I think most would agree is that the risk prevention and management capabilities we do have in our sport make it "safer" or "less risky" (put the definition you like better) than other risky sports. And, as you say, it is a strictly personal evaluation.
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In Jagüel airport, Punta del Este, Uruguay a boogie will be held on February 23, 24 and 25th. There will be wingsuit instruction and formation jumps. The plane will be a Casa C-212. Whoever knows the place does know that it has one of the most beautiful sceneries! Just imagine yourself... Come and enjoy our sun and beaches!
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Moving it up in search of the 500 votes...
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Any more answers?
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Can we reach 500 votes?
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I really would like to know who are the 2 "after 80" starters...
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QuoteStarted about a month after turning 18! Parents arent too happy at all!
It happened to me and I was 48...
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499... isn't the average 1/500 jumps? I wanted to prove statistics right! Ah, and I didn't stand up the landing...
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QuoteFirst Jump at 10
Static line at 16
First and second BASE one month after 18 birthday
Now 18
WOW!!!
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QuoteI was 50 and now have 500+ jumps at 56 -- and feel like I'm getting younger every jump...
My case is similar to yours, in numbers (start at 48, 600 + jumps) and feelings!!!
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OK, on a total of 304 votes here are the gross numbers:
+ Nearly 70% do it before age 30
+ An additional near 20% do it in the next decade
+ Near 10% do it in the next one
+ Near 5% do it with 50 or more. My sincere admiration to those who do!
Thank you all for voting and participating!!!
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3 more and we reach the 300...
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288.... 12 more votes!!!
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I really wonder who the 2 skydivers that answered "80 or more" are... They figure in the poll from the start, I've asked this question before and no reply... May be a joke?
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First Cutaway, jump 30, and got my A too
in Safety and Training
How true! Congrats...
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