Bob_Church

One last thing. They had decided what Virginia wanted. They didn't declare that, they declared Hillary Clinton as the next candidate while other people, including Sanders were sitting there. They had the arrogance and presumption to assume that the other 49 states and DC would go the same way. Or maybe it wasn't arrogance and presumption. That's the real question, how early did the DNC already *KNOW* who there were going to give the candidacy to without any regard to what the rank and file wanted?

"It would be nice if you gave some indication that you had read or understood a word I just said. They had already held the primary and they already knew what the voters wanted, because they'd aleady voted. " You just don't get it. I give up.

How much of the cost of making an AAD goes into making it reusable? I think I'd skip that part. If it fires it saved your life and you have some hard decisions to make, but if you do stick with the sport afterwards it seems like paying full price for another would still be a bargain.

Ok Bob, but you and your friend are confused. The Virginia DNC convention was in July, and at that convention they decide who the delegates are. However the Virginia DNC primary was in March, and it is at the primary that the DNC find out who Virginia democrats want to be the nominee. Almost all of the Virginia delegates chosen at the convention are bound to vote according to the results of the Primary. So yeah, no shit the Virginia DNC convention was biased towards Hillary - they already knew that she'd won the Virginia primary (by a lot), and by that point they already knew that she'd won enough other primaries and caucuses to win the National Convention. She was, at that point, already the presumptive nominee. Presumptive is the correct word here, and it was wrong. Hillary Clinton didn't get the nod until the Richmond Convention. It's exactly this sort of arrogance and ignoring of the actual voters that I believe cost the election.

I don't think anyone would argue that Dylan Roof is not a fool. Except that I think he's going to be successful. He wanted to stir up bad feelings between the races and look what we're getting. Race baiters like CNN are pretending like the only black victims of gun violence in the last 50 years died at the hands of police or Dylann Roof. How many neighborhoods will this get burned down, how many police shot and how much more silent resentment among white people will be engendered by having to pretend like we're the only ones who shoot black people, despite Chicago just passing the 700 mark of black on black killings for 2016?

And if anyone is wondering why the government hasn't tried to fix this in the past, just watch the way the media spins it to stir up trouble. "Government going after Retirees money! Have they no soul???" The phone's ringing, it's probably AARP warning me about how the republicans are about to desecrate me.

A friend of mine who is very active in Virginia politics and a serious Hillary Clinton supporter even had trouble with it. Here's what he said about one event he attended. This is when the DNC was supposed to be seeing who their rank and file, the voters, wanted to represent them in the 2016 election. "I was at the Virginia convention, and the partiality shown by state figures at the opening of the convention was outrageous. It began with the religious convocation, at which the minister said he was praying for Hillary's success. It was followed by major state figures, saying they were glad to be there with like-minded Democrats to nominate the first woman candidate for president of a major political party in the US. And it went on and on. "

I think the real mystery, and I hope I live long enough for it to become public, is how Clinton got the nomination. And I'm not talking about the Bernie thing, I think we was smoke, deliberately allowed to run so the DNC could present some illusion of an actual primary decision by the voters. We have an entire nation full of Democrats that would have been better choices, Governors, Senators, Used Car salesmen, but there was never really any question. For some reason the one person so corrupt and hated that even Donald Trump could beat her was nominated. People are upset that Trump got elected, and I understand that, but I don't know why they aren't looking at the DNC as the source of their grief.

You confuse Obama and Clinton with "The Left"?

Can you imagine the reaction if you were to leave an internal part from an AAD on the floor of a fully loaded CASA? I'm just wondering, of course. It would be wrong....

I knew a novice jumper that was doing really well and would have been a real asset to The Sport. She absolutely refused to exit an aircraft without an AAD. It came up once when her rig was being worked an and she said she couldn't even imagine jumping without one. Which is cool, but then she bought a canopy that was way too small for her and had two painful landings in a row and quit skydiving. How the hell does that make sense?

I had four high speed malfunctions before the cypress was invented. I bought one when I jumped at a dz where the dzo really wanted us to but didn't require it for non-students. I appreciated his attitude and his dz. it was pulled after its 12 years and then in July of 2015, no aad, I had a cutaway. I do have one serious problem with AADs and that's the attitude it engenders. I once heard a S&T telling some students that Tom Piras went in because he wasn't using one. But not one word about the oldest rule in skydiving, "if in doubt, whip it out." AAD or not when you wake up in the sky you go for your reserve first, you don't check altitude or even get belly to Earth. You have two parachutes and two hands, use one of each! Always assume a gun is loaded and that your AAD won't save you.

Here's what I don't understand. The accusation is that Russia got hold of emails that proved that Clinton and the DNC did things that we voters didn't like and leaked it to wikileaks. One of the few people who would actually know this would be Julian Assange. But since making the statement that they didn't get the info from Russia Assange went from being the beloved spokesperson for The Left to being a nobody. Seriously, how many people here have even seen a news report about how Assange denies that it came from the Russian government? Why is that statement not news? And why would Assange lie for Trump?

Personally, I like the electoral college. If some loser in Florida can't count chads or some official in some other state doesn't know how to plug in the voting machine it doesn't affect my vote. Some official can claim to find a million votes for the candidate from their state and the only thing it affects is that state's Electoral votes. As it is, every state handles voting itself but this way we don't have to trust them. Their dishonesty or incompetence can only screw up their electoral votes. I'm in Ohio, and I'm not saying that I have a lot of influence over how Ohio handles voting, but as an Ohio voter I have some. I don't have any over how other states do it.

Try to open in more of a "Stable Spread" configuration rather than "Superman Flying." If your arms are a bit further apart the risers aren't as likely to slap them on the way up. Bring your elbows out farther then bend your forearms forward to stay stable. If you're on long enough delays try practicing this before opening.

One of the first nasty injuries off the New River Bridge was a jumper who had a line over. He still had enough canopy to land in the river, we had really big parachutes in those days, so he cranked down the other side and went for it. He was just off the water and seemingly home free when the line over cleared causing the canopy to hook to the left and slam him into the rocks face and knees first.

But what are the odds that using rear risers takes the pressure off the locked brake line and it clears at just the wrong moment?

One of the female art students asked me how I felt about my hair going gray. I said "child, at my age hair is good, any color will do."

I was filling out my USPA membership card this morning and when I got to HAIR I almost wrote YES.

I don't have audio for that, so sorry if he mentioned this, but did he cut the right brake line? If not, wouldn't that make it difficult to get a good flare?

Yeah, he was the sniper whose nerves were shot, I think. Yes, and just last month we watched Teen Age Caveman, the mst3k version of course. It was made by Roger Corman in 1958 and was one of those movies where all the cave men were clean shaven and the women had had their hair done. He was playing some flute or something, the sensitive caveman, and you'd always think "Open Channel D" when he'd put it to his lips.

This may be easier than I thought. My biggest concern is that I only have information from other sources: books, magazines, that sort of thing. But it turns out that that's all that wikipedia wants. They don't want first hand accounts, they want citable data. I'm gathering and formatting it offline (habits left over from playing with computers in the 80s, where you did your programming on paper first then used valuable computer time to enter it) and hopefully will have something up soon.

But seriously, and this isn't false modesty or anything, I just think he deserves someone who can do a much better job of it than I can. Maybe we can lay the foundations here, get some facts together, some stories, then transfer it to a page. I only make a few jumps a month and do very little R/W so it's hard enough for me to get on a load without screwing up Pat Work's wikipedia page. On the other hand I'm kind of stupid about doing stuff that I know I shouldn't. Who would be in for helping put together a wikipedia page?

I checked on Wikipedia and Pat isn't even mentioned. This seems like a shame, or maybe even a crime. The problem is, I have no idea how to do it and probably wouldn't be any good at it. But I thought I should mention it and hope that someone would step up and do it. I think skydiving is very underrepresented on Wikipedia because we have our own great forums but it might not be a bad idea to get the info out there.

I spent the later fifties in Parkersburg Wv where I started first grade and spent most of my time watching Soupy Sales and Ripcord. They were probably the two biggest influences on my life.