Bob_Church

I thought that people on here were going to fill out the paperwork and change us from an Electoral College to popular vote, putting Clinton in the White House.

Pat Works saved my life in 1981 or '82 (I've GOT to put my logbooks into a database for searching). I'd read in one of his books about how hypnotic ground rush can be when you get low and terminal so I would practice my cutaway procedure constantly in the hopes that it became muscle memory. One afternoon after a really sloppy 2 way I had a total, which is especially rare since I was jumping a borrowed rig with a ripcord deploy. But you can screw up anything if you go about it right. I ended up going through 1 grand head low and terminal at z-hills and he was absolutely correct. My eyes and brain were locked on the sight of the earth spreading out at high speed. Fortunately, while all this was happening, my body took care of things. I reached up to the R2s and pulled them then pulled the reserve handle. I remember feeling every single rubber band pop free then woke up under canopy directly over the sewage tank and choppers. The 20 foot SAC (Strategic Aero Conical) opened hard but flew surprisingly well, allowing me to land it, going down to one knee, in the gravel road leading to the sewer plant. It was just like Pat had written. Never develop a need to look at your handles and do everything you can to develop muscle memory of your emergency procedures.

I'm not against nuclear energy but there is something that I'm very curious about but can't find an answer to. That is, "how much coal does it take to run a nuclear power plant?" When they shut down the uranium enrichment plant in nearby Piketon it devastated the coal industry here. There were at least three coal mines dedicated to running two power plants that would supply electricity to Piketon. The problem is that this is woven into so many other things that I can't tell what is what. US produced coal was already under attack so I can't say which mines closed due to that or to Piketon's closing. And I don't know how much of the HEU that Piketon made was for power plants and how much for weapons. But if anyone here knows I'd appreciate finding out.

Talk about holding tension. You know, we should keep this link for any noob who asks "Howdja pack them old round chutes, anyway?" And seriously, I think the skydiving stuff holds up a lot better than just about any other movie I've seen, even down to the fact that the captain of the US team still has to have a job to pay the rent. There are a few silly spots of course but overall it wasn't bad.

The odd thing is that she could pack a parachute but couldn't keep her jumpsuit zipped up.

Sort of like any rainy day at the DZ.

We would prefer you NOT troll. We realize some can't help themselves because it's literally impossible for some to tell the difference between reality and fiction. It's not that we cut them slack though. They just refuse to acknowledge it's the Sun in the sky and not the Moon. I never troll. It's a cheap thrill and I prefer getting out of airplanes. What I'm saying is that I'm not good at spotting it when I'm being trolled, but I'm starting to get that feeling.

Serious question. Is there trolling on this board? I had assumed not, considering who uses it, but I'm starting to think I was mistaken.

But if a state screws up the count and awards its electoral votes the wrong way, it's ok to accept those? Mistaken electoral college votes don't matter? It puts it on the State that carried out the polling. Each state is allocated an amount of influence they can have on who becomes POTUS. Whether they accurately and honestly count their votes only affects that influence.

Over around the Dayton area there's a trucking outfit that uses an emblem on their trucks that looks like Air Force but I don't think they're really government. I don't know who they are, and I sure as hell don't know who they THINK they are but if you see a truck with that emblem coming at you you just have to get out of the way. Nobody drives worse than those clowns.

Talk about holding tension.

I just saw the old Raquel Welch movie "Fathom." In a lot of ways its no more than you'd expect from a movie in the late 60s but I was surprised at how relatively good the skydiving stuff was. I mean relative to other movies and tv shows, not reality. There's a lot of silliness but less than most movies, even ones being made today. Has anyone else seen it? And remember it?

If a state "finds" ten million votes for its favorite son it doesn't affect the election results. This favorite son would have already won all of the electoral votes anyway. Each state, and dc, conduct their own polling. And so, each state can only control the EVs that they have. If they have sloppy counts or dishonest counts or anything else they can only affect their own EVs. The United States has allotted a certain amount of influence to each state via the EV. It's up to that state to determine who gets its EVs. A state cannot have more influence despite the number of ballots it claims to have or how it claims those ballots were determined.

"Besides, we just had a recount here in Wisconsin. " If people trust the system so much then why did you have a recount?

And I agree with the poster who said that every state going with proportional electoral votes would make more sense. That is, if 60% voted Trump and 40% Clinton then that's how the EVs would be allocated. I've never heard the reason so many states choose not to. I suspect it has something to do with a fear of diluting their influence, but that's just a guess.

While I appreciate your take on it, the reason has nothing whatsoever to do with the fact the numbers are too large or difficult to add properly. The reason is that if we accept a popular vote we have to assume that 50 states and Washington DC have not screwed up their count through ineptitude or dishonesty. It's not a matter of high numbers, but where those numbers come from.

One of the reasons we need the Electoral College is that we have no real way of knowing what the popular vote was. People can put numbers to it all they want but the truth is that what we have are numbers from 50 states plus DC based on what thousands of precincts have told them. The election for POTUS isn't nationalized, the states do the counting. And I really hate the idea of hearing four more years of people spouting Not My President like we've heard for the last 16. It makes us sound like some third world shithole. My policy is to give a new president the first two years no matter who they are. I think they deserve the benefit of the doubt. I even did it with Obama, so I really do mean anyone.

Speaking of mistakes, yours is nothing compared to the people who paid all that money for a Wisconsin recount. It gave Trump another 160 votes.

Trump lost two electors but Clinton five. Martin Sheen will have to get especially drunk tonight. (he came down here to protest a waste disposal facility being built "too close to a school" so that waste products could be disposed of instead of dumped in the river. They showed a clip of him with a three day stubble and, I'm not kidding, so drunk that the protestors had to stand on either side of him and hold him up)

If people want to do away with the death penalty then they should put their time and energy into pressuring the government to keep their end of the agreement when someone is sentenced to life in prison.

Wendy P. Sorry it took so long to get back to you. The problem is that I end up spending a lot of time in places that run CNN in the background and their race baiting on this has been shameless.

Did you accidentally type that backwards? I was working on computers when they started becoming popular and I remember the occasional article in magazines like Byte apologizing for using k incorrectly when referring to computer memory.

Speaking of Subarus, we have two, one red and one green so it's always Christmas in our garage. When I moved to Athens Ohio in 1975 there was an auto shop named Subtle Bug. It was a couple of young hippies and they only worked on VWs. It's still here but now it's one old hippy and he only works on Subarus. But it's still named The Subtle Bug.

We were blown away with what he did, but I wonder how much more amazed we'd have been with a modern quality video of what he was seeing rather than that fuzzy image we had then.

"The funny thing is Reusable and Reliable are very closely related. I do not know if it is still available, but there was a hot wire AAD for a while. I believe it was a one-time use kind of thing. The problem is the nature of the application and the volume of production. Another aspect to consider is the legal defense aspect, which is also part of this application. " Thanks for the info.