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  1. "For months, I have been suggesting that cable news networks stop giving air time to Rudolph W. Giuliani, who often makes patently false statements, doesn’t appear to be doing any real lawyering for President Trump and intentionally misstates the law (unless he’s forgotten everything he learned as a prosecutor, in which case he is unfit to represent the president). Now, Trump and his real lawyers might agree that Giuliani should go away. "

    Ms Rubin says she suggests they quit giving them air time but then lists all the reasons that they never will.

  2. Phil1111

    *********The real cause of blacks dying at the hands of cops is blacks being shot by cops - often for no reason other than they are black. That's what BLM is trying to stop. I would assume you agree with that approach.


    I don't believe in your statement and the reality doesn't back them up. Over and over I read reports of someone doing something that I know, absolutely, would get me killed. The difference is that if I did it all of my friends and loved ones would say "what was Bob thinking? You can't do that!"

    Reality supports Bill's statement, as anyone who has been paying attention to credible news sources knows. Your repeated denial of that reality speaks volumes about you.

    A cocked, locked 1911 on the hip is how Bob, Marc, Ron and other trump cultists. Deal with the inherent propensity. The DNA. In Black people who can't help their violent impulses. trump understands this as well.

    Don't blame the "uppity" Black folks who are trying to change a dynamic. That they themselves can't change. Because its in their nature, their culture. Like a love of fried chicken, they love violence.

    You and i could understand this. But "socialism" precludes this. Colors our view of reality. If you'll pardon the pun.

    You forgot to call us "Nazis."

  3. billvon

    >>The real cause of blacks dying at the hands of cops is blacks being shot by cops -
    >>often for no reason other than they are black. That's what BLM is trying to stop. I
    >>would assume you agree with that approach.

    >I don't believe in your statement and the reality doesn't back them up.

    So blacks are dying at the hands of cops in other ways than being shot by cops? I disagree. Outside of very rare exceptions (i.e. the guy who had his neck broken in the back of the transport) they are getting killed by being shot.

    If you have any proof to the contrary please present it.

    >What's that, but he already asked for your id? So what . . . .

    So your advice to blacks is "disobey cops and they won't shoot you."

    That works very well for the anti-BLM folks. That way when the next black gets shot, they can say "hey, he disobeyed the cops! Of course he got shot. Duh. If you want to live, don't disobey the cops."

    How about this - don't shoot the guy until there is a clear threat to your life or the lives of others.



    cough medicine?

  4. For instance, there is a standard procedure for being pulled over while legally carrying a concealed weapon. First off, hands on the top of the steering wheel. And they stay there until you've told the cop that you are carrying. What's that, but he already asked for your id? So what, he didn't know you were carrying then. And if you've got an IQ at least as big as your belt size you know that. You keep your hands on the top of the wheel until the cop knows the you have a gun then you follow their instructions. Exactly If you did screw up and start digging for ID, and that is a serious screw up, you instantly put your hands back on the wheel. You do not tell a cop that you have a gun then keep digging around. Why? Because this WILL get you killed and I don't care what your race, gender, social status or anything else is. And at this point neither does the cop, you've put a cop who has a gun aimed at you into a position where that person has no way of knowing what you will pull out until it's too late. And nothing will change that. What's that you say, racism is a real problem? Cops unfairly assume the worst? If you believe that then isn't that just another reason to act like you're not a brain dead cop hating criminal with a gun so PUT YOUR HANDS ON THE WHEEL. It's not rocket science. When I get pulled over I put my hands on the steering wheel until I'm told to do something else then do that. That's because I don't want to die and I don't want everyone I know wondering why I acted so stupid. Carrying a couple concealed weapon may be legal but that doesn't make it anywhere near trivial. Personally I suspect that far more people will get themselves killed with concealed carry than save themselves.

  6. billvon

    >We continue our strategy of saving black lives by blaming it on something less
    >uncomfortable than the real cause of their deaths.

    The real cause of blacks dying at the hands of cops is blacks being shot by cops - often for no reason other than they are black. That's what BLM is trying to stop. I would assume you agree with that approach.



    I don't believe in your statement and the reality doesn't back them up. Over and over I read reports of someone doing something that I know, absolutely, would get me killed. The difference is that if I did it all of my friends and loved ones would say "what was Bob thinking? You can't do that!"

  7. JerryBaumchen

    Hi Bob,

    Quote

    after he was released from the Hanoi Hilton . . . a group of officers who were asked to meet with Johnson



    I am definitely no time-line expect on the Vietnam War; but are you sure that Joe K was released while LBJ was in office?

    I thought the POWs were only released after the agreements that came out of the discussions in Paris, when Nixon was in office.

    Jerry Baumchen



    All these years later I can clearly remember watching it on TV but then I get the date off by about 11 years and most of the war.

  8. I don't know how I got that shifted around to after he was released, and of course there was no "earlier release."

    He wrote about being interviewed in the Stennis hearings in 1964. I'd elaborate but I suspect that wikipedia could do a better job of it, and definitely beats my memory.

    Bob

  9. JerryBaumchen

    Hi Bob,

    Quote

    after he was released from the Hanoi Hilton . . . a group of officers who were asked to meet with Johnson



    I am definitely no time-line expect on the Vietnam War; but are you sure that Joe K was released while LBJ was in office?

    I thought the POWs were only released after the agreements that came out of the discussions in Paris, when Nixon was in office.

    Jerry Baumchen



    It kind of twisted my head around at first, but this was Operation Homecoming that took place during the Paris Peace Accords. This, I see reading up on it, was also when McCain was released. After seeing it in Kittinger's book then looking it up I have vague memories of watching it on TV. I remember how amazed everyone was at the condition most of the men were in, or at least the impression they were determined to give. People were basically waiting with wheel chairs and crutches but the POWs marched from the planes and saluted while standing at attention. That's the part I remember seeing.

    Edit: wait, now I know what's been bugging me about that. You're right, that's too late in the Vietnam War. I'll go dig that book out.

  10. A black man who warned the world that the danger to black men was from police dies when a fellow black man takes advantage of the absence of police in the area to shoot and kill him.
    Other than that, nothing to see here.

  11. About Johnson, he could have been remembered as a great President if it weren't for that one mistake. But it was a big one. And it wasn't just Generals. In 'Come up and Get Me' Kittinger tells how after he was released from the Hanoi Hilton he was a group of officers who were asked to meet with Johnson and advice him about Vietnam. Escalate or get out. They all said get out and explained why. So he not only had the advice but could have used them as part of his reason. But no. He always had an ego problem, his seat on Air Force One was turned around and elevated so everyone would be looking up at him.
    But if he'd have just listened and got out I think he'd be remember as a good, maybe even great, President.

  12. SkyDekker

    ******Why would you think that advocating for one things means you are ignoring another thing?

    Your argument is as silly as saying that white people can kill black people, because black people kill black people.

    Would you have made a comment similar to this if he had been killed by a drunk driver?

    Do you think that the Black Lives Matter movement is only related to murder?

    You seem to have a very basic understanding of racism and institutional racism. Your attitude is very similar to people who feel that black people shouldn't complain so much and that this is all their own fault.



    Go ahead and keep twisting reality like a balloon animal. It won't stop the slaughter. Or does it matter, since all the blood shed involves young black men?

    As the father of a young black man I think I have a pretty decent grasp on the reality he faces.

    Well, that's that then.

  14. DanG

    So in your mind, an organization dedicated to preventing police violence against blacks is a waste of time because more black people are killed by other black civilians than by cops?

    Man, you must really have it out for the Muscular Dystrophy Association. Why are they wasting so much time and money? Way more people are killed by heart disease. Ostriches with their heads in the sand, those MDA morons!



    Just keep twisting shit around. I know how I feel, and if other people are interested they can just read what I wrote.

  15. RonD1120

    I remember discussing the terrorism in South Africa with an Afrikaner. It was in the mid-80s and we shared an office building in the Tampa Bay area. The focus of our discussion was the Communist support for the rebels. He wrote that off as insignificant because "blacks kill blacks, it is part of their culture."



    I think it's culture not race, at least in the US. I see a lot of the same attitude and violence among young people here in Appalachia who have absolutely nothing to lose. About the time the black community was becoming solidly middle class we sold the middle class out by sending all their jobs overseas. Desperate people do desperate things. And those things might not seem related to the underlying problems, like lack of jobs causing black youth and hillbillies to run around with guns and kill each other, but it creates this chaos where basically "why not?"
    When I was growing up I had no respect for authority but I still reigned in my bad behavior because I didn't want to lose my future of a job and home.
    Take those way and what limits does a young person have?

  16. yoink

    *********"We’re going to gather up ALL of
    your guns"

    That part could get interesting.



    Out of interest.

    In a hypothetical world if the constitution was legally changed, and a law enacted requiring people to give up all guns by a certain date, would you follow it?

    If someone actually came to forcibly and legally collect your guns what would you do?

    Why do you assume I own any guns?

    Just a guess based on how you've framed your anti-gun restriction arguments in the past. It might well be wrong.
    Do you?

    I don't like guns. They make things happen too quickly. I don't want, or have, any in my home, car etc.
    But that's not the same as recognizing the reality of the situation.

  17. ""I did!

    top "

    My first stack was me under a Paracommander and Gary Westmoreland under a Cloud Delta. I couldn't start any earlier because we weren't doing it yet.

    Ok, I'll stop. I just couldn't help myself. Sorry for the off topic post. No more, I promise.

  18. And for those who don't know but could easily read the wrong message from some of the responses to my post.
    Black Lives Matter activist Muhiyidin Moye was not killed by a police officer. His killer was just another black guy with a gun.

  19. yoink

    ***"We’re going to gather up ALL of
    your guns"

    That part could get interesting.



    Out of interest.

    In a hypothetical world if the constitution was legally changed, and a law enacted requiring people to give up all guns by a certain date, would you follow it?

    If someone actually came to forcibly and legally collect your guns what would you do?

    Why do you assume I own any guns?

  21. SkyDekker

    Why would you think that advocating for one things means you are ignoring another thing?

    Your argument is as silly as saying that white people can kill black people, because black people kill black people.

    Would you have made a comment similar to this if he had been killed by a drunk driver?

    Do you think that the Black Lives Matter movement is only related to murder?

    You seem to have a very basic understanding of racism and institutional racism. Your attitude is very similar to people who feel that black people shouldn't complain so much and that this is all their own fault.



    Go ahead and keep twisting reality like a balloon animal. It won't stop the slaughter. Or does it matter, since all the blood shed involves young black men?

  22. DanG

    BLM is primarily about cops killing black people.

    It is not about white people killing black people. At all.

    Say it with me, Black Lives Matter isn't about white vs black.

    People like you really, really want it to be so you can ignore it. But it isn't. Sorry.



    Ok, sure. We continue our strategy of saving black lives by blaming it on something less uncomfortable than the real cause of their deaths. After all, that's been working so well so far, hasn't it?

  23. SkyDekker

    ******I don't get your post title. Who is the wrong audience? Who is the messenger?



    He dedicated his life to convincing white people that black lives matter, but was shot, as are the overwhelming majority of black shooting victims, by a black man.

    How dare those uppity guys say something right....

    Like what? I have no idea what you're saying.

    Young black men are being slaughtered on a daily basis by other young black men. No amount of denial, no amount of pointing to the occasional killing of a black man or woman by a white person will change the fact that for a huge number of young black men the last thing they will ever see is another young black man with a gun in his hand. Ignoring this very uncomfortable fact won't stop the funerals.

  24. Smitty23

    Right, so I'm 98% certain I'm going to start jumping again next Spring (got to let the idea percolate in the wife's mind for a few months). Will have been away from the sport for about 6 years by then.

    So I went up to the loft and found the suitcase containing my old pride and joy and blew the dust off like an Indiana Jones movie.

    Inside I found my rig, right where I'd left her. A Javelin - DOM October 1998! And inside we have a PD 126 - DOM 1992!

    No main as I sold years ago, and I also have my Vigil 2.

    Fist things first I pressed my Vigil 2 button and it greeted me with a Hello - half a decade from it last being pressed. I was impressed.

    Long story short - what's the deal with my gear? It's old - I know that - but will it see me through next year to do 50-60 jumps?

    The container I bought after AFF almost 10 years ago and it's only done 139 jumps in the last 10 years. It's in good condition. I'll obviously get a rigger to give it a once over next year.

    I emailed Vigil and they said it will need a new battery next year as it will be 10 years since DOM. That's fine. On a side note, AAD (Vigil) have insanely good customer service. Very impressed.

    So it's just the reserve I'm worried about. It's 26 years old for crying out loud. Over half a century.

    Is there a rigger on here who can advise me? Should i just bite the bullet and buy a new reserve? Or will it just need an airing and a repack?

    Your thoughts would be appreciated.



    I'm not a rigger but I've jumped a lot of older gear, and I've always jumped at places where the Ken and Barbie type who replace their rigs every couple of years are very rare.
    I remember in the early 80s when a five year old rig looked old. Gear was changing so rapidly then. Now a lot of it has stabilized. I have a Quasar 2 and Stellar 7 that was built in 1996 and still seems new to me. If you sat it next to a new one I'm not sure there's be enough difference to tell them apart, especially since Strong has been really good about taking care of it. I send it to them every few years for maintenance. My first cutaway on this gear was in 2015 and it worked perfectly.
    Send the rig in to Sun Path to go over then pack. If it's not airworthy they won't sign off on it.