DesertAttorney

=Those without a J.D. and a Bar admission.

Re: "Mine not yours": I never made the claim in the manner in which you are characterizing it. Really? So you didn't write: "So it's now incumbent upon Government to take from those who have EARNED it, and give it to those who have not?" I wonder who was impersonating you. You are grossly misinterpreting my words. And you can stuff your sarcasm where the sun does not shine.

Tell us WHICH right OKLAHOMANS were denied, COUNSELOR. The right to BEAR arms in public for their RIGHT of self-defense, a right that pre-dates the Constitution.

How the fuck does banging a fuckin' drum accomplish anything other than making noise? OTOH, anything that sends these useless hippies home is a good thing...

More Jealousy... Because that is their right. The poor have the same right.

http://www.occupyoccupywallstreet.org/ YES. HELL YES.

Wall Street execs camping out at St. Paul's? http://www.occupyoccupywallstreet.org/ LOVE IT. Deserves its own thread.

In the age of ID theft, it's moronic to put out more info than is necessary. Why should I put myself at risk? I shall remain anonymous, so I shall remain no more precisely identified than "one of the 20,000+ attorneys in Arizona." Re: "Mine not yours": I never made the claim in the manner in which you are characterizing it. Oklahoma did not recognize McVeigh's New York Concealed Weapon permit, a technicality that has since been remedied. Sir, you seem to fancy yourself as being an authority on all manner of subjects, yet you lack the qualifications on all subjects other than those listed in your academic CV. Stick to what you are qualified to speak on.

Vatican: Stop protecting clergymen who diddle little kids, and perhaps your yammering may be relevant. Islam: Stop throwing acid on women who refuse to wear a veil and perhaps your yammering may be relevant.

That's how they caught Timothy McVeigh--he had no license plate on his car. And they took him into custody because he had a gun, not because of a traffic offense. Which is immaterial if he hadn't been stopped in the first place. And he wouldn't have been arrested if he hadn't had a gun. And? Who knows, maybe he would have continued to evade arrest and kill again. What we DO know is that he was taken into custody and held on account of his gun, not on account of his plates. So... Oklahoma Troopers enforced a Gun Law on the books, and the Sheeple afterwards did not clamor for more nonsensical gun laws. It's Nice when the system works. Clamor? Maybe, maybe not. They got a more nonsensical law anyway. McVeigh would not be arrested today under the same circumstances. Uh, yeah... Damn those Oklahomans for wanting their 2nd Amendment rights back, as well as the right of self-defense, which pre-dates even the Constitution. They hadn't lost any 2nd Amendment rights, and McVeigh wasn't an Oklahoman. I thought you claimed to be a lawyer. Nice personal attack. It seemed you were referring to Oklahoma not allowing Concealed Wepons when McVeigh was arrested as being a good thing. At the time, Oklahoma did not allow CCW. That was an unconstitutionality later lifted by the OK Legislature... The arrest of McVeigh does not excuse or justify the rights denied millions for so long... But of course, "Doctor," (and who really calls anyone other than a M.D. 'Doctor', what egos in academia) a Physics degree makes one an expert in law, civics, government, economics, underwater basket weaving, animal husbandry, and everything else... So we should bow down to your arrogant tones and inapplicable "expertise" (i've researched your other pontifications on dz.com) and create a mini UK in the US, no guns, high taxes, and looney lefties running the show... Wait, we have that, it's called Illinois.

That's how they caught Timothy McVeigh--he had no license plate on his car. And they took him into custody because he had a gun, not because of a traffic offense. Which is immaterial if he hadn't been stopped in the first place. And he wouldn't have been arrested if he hadn't had a gun. And? Who knows, maybe he would have continued to evade arrest and kill again. What we DO know is that he was taken into custody and held on account of his gun, not on account of his plates. So... Oklahoma Troopers enforced a Gun Law on the books, and the Sheeple afterwards did not clamor for more nonsensical gun laws. It's Nice when the system works. Clamor? Maybe, maybe not. They got a more nonsensical law anyway. McVeigh would not be arrested today under the same circumstances. Uh, yeah... Damn those Oklahomans for wanting their 2nd Amendment rights back, as well as the right of self-defense, which pre-dates even the Constitution.

If it were any other building other than a church, I'd say light it on fire--that'd get those vermin out.

That dog will be huge--like livestock huge.

That's how they caught Timothy McVeigh--he had no license plate on his car. And they took him into custody because he had a gun, not because of a traffic offense. Which is immaterial if he hadn't been stopped in the first place. And he wouldn't have been arrested if he hadn't had a gun. And? Who knows, maybe he would have continued to evade arrest and kill again. What we DO know is that he was taken into custody and held on account of his gun, not on account of his plates. So... Oklahoma Troopers enforced a Gun Law on the books, and the Sheeple afterwards did not clamor for more nonsensical gun laws. It's Nice when the system works.

That's how they caught Timothy McVeigh--he had no license plate on his car. And they took him into custody because he had a gun, not because of a traffic offense. Which is immaterial if he hadn't been stopped in the first place. And he wouldn't have been arrested if he hadn't had a gun. And?

When do we see the helicopters atop the US Embassy ferrying the last few people, and then the sailors pushing helos overboard to make room for the ones still landing? Since Saigon got named Ho Chi Minh City, what does Baghdad get renamed to?

That's how they caught Timothy McVeigh--he had no license plate on his car.

Pretty much. Being a wiseass towards a cop who's simply doing his job will increase the likelihood that he/she will find something you can be ticketed for. While doing approximately 10 mph over the limit, I was pulled over in AZ. At the time I had my Glock in a holster on my left hip, pursuant to AZ's Concealed weapon law, later the state's Constitutional Carry law. I promptly pulled over, turned the dome light on, put my hands on the top of the wheel, and did not move until the police officer was at the window (I drive a convertible). I did only what the cop told me to, and told him "Officer, I have a concealed weapon on my left hip. It is a Glock, it has a full magazine, and I am a CCW permit holder." The police officer had me open the door and exit the car with my hands in view at all times. He removed the weapon from my person, ejected the magazine, cleared it, and took the slide off. He ran my info, saw I had no warrants and a relatively clean driving record. He asked me to step back into the car. He handed my license/rego/ins card, followed by the frame, slide, and magazine of my Glock, as well as the one loose round of ammunition. He thanked me for the honesty, gave me a verbal warning, and sent me on my way with his card to contact him in case my boss busted my hump for being 15 minutes late. A lot easier than being an arrogant little "fight the power" douche. But then again, I didn't have drugs on me/in the car, and my license and registration were both current...

You are missing the point of Iowa's question. You could be following the law entirely and get pulled over if, for example, you are driving your buddy's car and his license is suspended. Your buddy is the "dumbfuck" who broke the law, but you, who are not breaking the law, get pulled over. Most people don't like to be stopped by the police when they have done nothing wrong. So stop promptly, hands at 11 and 1, show license and insurance, answer questions honestly without waiving 5th Amd privileges, and you'll be fine. Unless you are a dumbfuck who's broken the law, in which case--fuck you, welcome to jail.

Saddam Hussein's funeral was more or less public, and his gravesite is publicly known and, I believe, publicly accessible. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?GRid=17206247&page=gr

The solution is to not be a dumbfuck and break the law.

Meh, one less terrorist. No big loss.

Three Words: "Christina. Ricci's. Boobs."

Only if Larry Craig and Mark Foley join you in the run Substitute Stormy Daniels and Shirley Manson (Scots singer from the band Garbage) and you have a DEAL!

So I can run nekkid, covered in K-Y and Pixie Stick sugar through the State Capital on the 20th, and have no fear of any legal reprecussions? SaWeeet!