*I* am not a gang-banger. Therefore, I am not going to consider statistics involving gang-bangers to determine whether or not a gun will benefit me. *I* am not going to use a gun as an offensive weapon. Therefore, I do not consider "justifiable homicide" statistics to determine whether a gun will or will not help me. *I* am not going to stick a gun in my mouth and kill myself, so I do not consider "suicide" statistics to determine whether a gun will or will not protect me. Let's compare apples and apples (to the greatest extent possible). I have lawfully carried a concealed weapon for most of the past 14 years (as is true with many off-duty cops, for example). Problems averted: 2 The first was to put down a deer that another motorist had crippled. The second was to deal with a very large belligerent man in my neighborhood at night. There was no need to fire a shot or even take aim - the mere presence of the weapon stopped his advance until the police arrived (which took OVER 15 minutes). Point being - compare apples to apples as much as possible. I really don't give two squirts of monkey piss about suicide statistics, or gang-banger statistics, or anything else that doesn't apply to ME. If you do the math in an honest way, you'll note that there is NO indication of more guns leading to more crime, and some indication that more guns lead to less crime (although I will concede it is not conclusive and correlation does not equate to causation, etc). Marc Are we sure that's a good idea?