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I bet you fly much better in the sky than in a wind tunnel, yes? Derek V hahaha I would also LOVE to see proof of that statement

Hey Danny, The walls are the biggest reason, period. People who learn in the sky take up a lot of space. The limiting space why you need to be held onto when learning something new in the tunnel It is 100% easier to fly without a rig on. Rigs restrict mobility, many companies do a great job to provide as much mobility as possible but its not the same. and finally the way you can think about the wind or skydiver moving is like how you can think of a running outside vs running on a treadmill. When running outside you're moving, when running on a treadmill you're still running but the treadmill is moving. The movements are still basically the same.

it's really hard to say why you are plateauing without seeing what you are doing. I am assuming you are trying to go over your feet from belly to back and back to belly. this transition can be broken down it in parts which really helps. if you can learn to go from you belly to your feet on the net then to your back and vise versa that should help. But again its hard to help on a public forum. Is this time you're doing coached or just by yourself? If it's by yourself it may help and save you money get some coaching.

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Hi as a iFly tunnel instructor I teach first timers very differently then someone who is a skydiver or going through AFF. For first timers AS LONG AS THEY HAVE THEIR HIPS DOWN having arms and legs out is very stable for JUST flying around in a small tunnel. It is not a good position if you want to learn to turn, go up and down, pull, or other maneuvers. But I don't want first timers to know how to do maneuvers before they know how to be safe in there. As stated above we keep first timers flat to keep the wind speed low. This is for safety of both the student and the instructor. I don't want first time students to go above my head because i can't communicate with them and honestly i don't want to have to catch someone from that high. You don't have to teach them this way but most do because of the safety of it all. Also we are usually teaching a group of people so we have to come up with a way to teach the entire group something easy for them to remember. Students will forget everything you say to them between the class and the time they fly. I try and keep everything as simple as possible. They are here for an experience if they want to learn to fly they can come back for coaching and I can teach them proper body position.

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Ok, first off explain to me why you think this is terrible advice rather then just saying it so i can learn. Second it is not dangerous if you are on a solo but once you start putting other people into the equation things become exponentially more dangerous. Find me any big way HD where people go directly to their bellies to track away. The only time i have seen something remotely like this done is during the World Record where they had leaders trace on their bellies until their group broke up. Third to your dynamic point. Dynamic flyers are transitioning through their bellies and are not stoping to fly static belly they continue on to fly in a vertical position. If you believe that going from a static HD position to a static belly position in the tunnel is ok you're wrong (there is one exception to this but i will not get into it right now). there is a reason why you learn to "bail out" when learning HD through your back and to your feet. Instructors are taught to actually prevent you from going to your belly when learning to fly HD, then once you proven you can fly HD they will then slowly and carefully begin to teach you maneuvers through your belly to your Head or feet.

no i'm not recommending anything to him i'm simply answering the question he asked He assumed which is wrong and dangerous and i hope that you do not do that. So i provided him with the answer in the hope that he doesn't go out and do something dangerous because he didn't know any better. I don't think he should be on his back at 30 jumps but i also doubt that he is flying on his head at 30 jumps either. (and if i'm wrong about this sorry but still don't go trying this just yet) And yes speaking to someone at his local dz would give him a better picture of what to do and clear up any follow up questions he has.

to slow down safely the best way is to go to your back and back track for a little then flip back onto your belly. The speed change is so great that if you go straight to your belly the collisions that are possible are very disastrous. By going to your back your can slow down a little bit and see if anything is above you. it is the same reason you cork to your back or eventually your sit when free flying and not your belly. It is even more dramatic in the tunnel. If you go from your head to your belly in the tunnel you're going to hit something hard and it's going to be painful and not very fun.

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I'm not sure why you are looking to increase your fall rate but there are a lot of ways to fall faster. The basic is to just arch hard and get small (arms and legs in). Now the reason the instructor can do it so fast in the tunnel is because of how the tunnel in orlando is built. The air is slower up top so they use that with the hard arch and getting small to build up even more speed. Now as for the speed of the tunnel 140mph is fast enough. If you at about 130 in the sky you're probably at about 110-120 in the tunnel. The reason for this is your weight. Skydiving gear adds about 10-20% body weight (depending on a lot of factors) which would increase our fall rate by an equal amount. Now for binging a knee down, it works great but you have to bring your knee straight down. Any angle in your knee will cause you to turn and spin.

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What part of the southern US? there are a few tunnels down there. I would call any of the ones you are thinking about going to and see. you could always get personal coaching too if you can't find one during the times you're looking for.

I would recommend doing a jump where you fly long periods with both your hands behind your back like you're about to pull. Do this and use the laterals of the wingsuit to balance yourself and maintain a straight line of flight. once you start becoming good at balancing yourself on the laterals you can begin to speed up the deployment so you don't have to do it for long periods of time. Also i would recommend when doing this not to shut down all the way. the reasoning for this is that if you deflate the wings all the way it becomes more difficult to balance yourself on the laterals since they are flapping rather then flying.

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i have camped at Perris twice now and both times went great. my tent is a piece of junk and has worked great both times. Just to give you a heads up bring ear plugs because if they are doing military training they skyvan flies until 4am. both times i have camped in the courner of the military packing mats and as long as you stay out of the way everything will be fine. thats my 2c

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This weekend we decided to try out some 2 way VFS and found it to be a lot of fun. Some of the dive flows we put together turned out to be a lot more difficult then anticipated. It made it feel like it was a lot more focused on something you can do just at your home DZ with a couple of friends. Compared to 4 way VFS it felt so much more relaxed, but maybe thats just because we were just having fun with it and not making it into a competition. So I am wondering what the general consensus within the DZ.com community is on the new event. What are your feeling about it all? What do you think it will take to podium in both the Open and Advanced class at nationals? Do you think there should be something more added, or subtracted from the dive pools? Have you guys tried this at your own DZ?

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