DontfallOff

Just saying. I'm not even from the USA.

http://www.phoenix-fly.com/products/wingsuits/phoenix_fly_viper like this?

http://www.phoenix-fly.com/products/wingsuits/phoenix_fly_viper

Awesome - can't wait to see/fly these new toys! Swept back arm wing means less shoulder pressure and a more comfortable flight. I'm guessing the Viper's wings are more square to allow for greater lift? Much like the Venom?

Wow that was impressive! That dancing PC went everywhere except where it should have! The biggest rookie mistake was videotaping the deployment height though - that's how fun things get banned at DZs everywhere! ;-)

Cheers Michi/Olek, Wingsuit porn.

Awesome. But not just straight line speed right? When you point the nose at the ground, lean it over and pull into a turn, it leaves your stomach somewhere behind you and above you right? Thats the feeliing I love about my V4, when that speed gets turned into a hard and fast turning carve, with a couple of mates in formation... not much better. Being able to carve harder, faster, and with more speed, all good things! Forecast is rain here tomorrow... finally some clouds!

Not saying I want anyone else hurt, but if we didn't have the people that put everything on the line to see if things could be done, we would never find out if they could be. For those that are following, there are tried and tested ways of doing things. I'm all for safety when it comes to things that have been tested to breaking point. But for things that are new territory... I really expected more from fellow wingsuiters... the freedom to fly the way we do is something we all wouldn't be able to enjoy if "pessimists" were the ones who were blazing the trails. If only what was 'safe' was allowed to be tried, we wouldn't even be jumping wingsuits today. The hard core flat fliers would have us all turning points and only dreaming about the lines we could fly. If this project isn't just a joke, and if everyone here is really as much of an expert as they make out, then why aren't there more real suggestions being put put as to how to make this project more feasible? But I guess i've answered my own question. Armchair experts spend more time complaining and whining about the ideas of others , and not enough time pondering what is possible and making their own dreams reality.

More agile? It's meant to go faster right? And more responsive as well? The V4 was like a jet fighter, loads of powerful speed and carving turns, real linear, not washy and mushy like most suits. Is the V5 even more like that? You would have had a few flights Jarno... Give us a detailed description of how she flies compared to the V4. It's more refinement of the design, but describe this flight and the difference in feel. I'm waiting for my V5 and Viper to arrive, and it would be great to have something to day dream about while I wait...

So many pessimists... Where would we be if we didn't have crash test dummies pushing the boundaries of credibility every day? I say keep it up. And if you get it off the ground put me in line for an early order!

Bump. More details?

Any new pics of the V's yet... there are a few being flown, but almost no pics in circulation...

Awesome, how did you find the diving turning and carving? Was it a lot like the V4 (like it is on rails?) or more like the bigger floatier suits (wallowy and a bit mushy?)

I've had a couple of blown zips - over shoulder, armwing zips etc, and while it can be a bit weird to fly compensating for it, it doesn't really affect the way it flies. Its irritating, but its not gonna kill you. I've never had an armwing cutaway release, but since it follows the same line as an armwing release, I'm assuming it would fly about the same. I have also had zippers jam on several occasions because they caught baggy clothes under my WS (or because thats what zippers do sometimes); and each of those times I was glad to have had the cutaways as standard. They made fixing the jammed zipper something I could worry about on the ground, instead of when I have a bunch of mates in the air around me trying to get close enough to film my struggles on their GoPro (and I appreciate their good efforts - how else are we going to be able to stop it happening from someone else?).

+1

Hahaha! That guy is classic! Just spent a while reading a lot of his adventures... They sound good, but are probably bull$hit. I can tell because he didn't provide one link to any footage on any of his stories. We all know that if you didn't have camera then it didn't happen. ;) And we also know that cameras are a safety tool, they let you see what went wrong after your AAD fires early and causes a bear fatality ;) The apparent link between camera and rate of incidents is only because having camera means more of your friends can see that something cool happened. Not because they are responsible for causing an 'incident' :)

This point was good - figured it could do with a bump.

Classic :) There are a lot of different opinion here... Broken into a couple of main groups: the first group says I shouldn't get married cause its a trap and that I should buy a second rig with the money I save; The second group says that if I take my girl to the dz she will get hit on; but if I get two rigs she will still get hit on but will be busier packing so I'm safer; So I'm gonna buy a second rig. Some other good advice in there too, but I only a have an attention span of about three minutes so I can't remember all of them :)

So don't jump through clouds for fear of causing an atmospheric disturbance? Does the wind beneath clouds (outside n op regs breach) hit exposed skin at all if you're flying for speed? Backs of the hands I guess? But would it make a trickle of rain down the front of your suit, or stinging on the back of your neck etc?

It is a well published fact that they are - but thats a side topic - just to stop the argument before it begins - the original 'Pointy End of Raindrops' forum topic closed thi argument a few years ago - as per the quote below: Didn't Mythbusters do a show on that?? Its the humidity in clouds that is has small enough H20 droplets that can in fact block the pores on our skin and stop the O2 osmosis from which we get most of our O2 from. http://stason.org/TULARC/sports/skydiving/16-How-do-you-breathe-in-freefall-and-other-Whuffo-Questi.html http://www.faqs.org/faqs/sports/skydiving/faq/(look for "osmosis" http://www.skydivejerseyshore.com/faq.htm#Whuffo But how would pointy rain in the sky influence the perception of how efficient one's flight is when flying? The sensation of the direction that the stinging comes from would surely change as our ratio of altitude lost to distance travelled changes, so would this give us an ability to estimate how efficient we are flying? If so? What would the most efficient flight 'feel' like? It would be different between different wingsuits right? As depending on balance an the body shape of the individual, each one would have a different 'most efficient' angle of attack. But assuming it is something that is similar for most suits, what would a real efficient flight feel like? (specifically in terms of rain)

Wow. Close call...

She isn't a jumper. But if I can get her to pack, maybe I have a reason to bring her down...

Just wondering... when flat flying, jumping in rain hurts because you fall on the sharp end of raindrops; that's old proven knowledge. But what about in wingsuits? It should hurt less because you're hitting them side on. The drops are thinner from the side, and the point faces upwards. Plus there is a burble from your helmet so you shouldn't be able to feel rain on your face much at all right? If flying really efficiently for distance, what should hitting rain or ice feel like? Should there be any difference in sensation at all? We don't get much rain down here in Aus, but you guys in the other hemisphere might have done this a bit more...

Sounds ideal bro - pretty much what I plan to use mine for - the only thing I couldn't do is get a canopy to test jump - so I put my deposit on a new 132zpx - now I've just gotta wait for it to arrive :D

After having seen the forces of different types of deployments from personnel to cargo as recorded on a PDAS logger/ strain gauge I have to say that I agree with you on that. +2 'Line dump' is blamed far too frequently for hard openings - packing error and chaos theory are far more believable causes of hard openings - just look at the 'free stows' used in BASE rigs and reserves - they still open fine.