BASEjumper375

QuoteAs I have read and followed this lengthy thread, several questions come to mind. As someone who has some expertise in crafting propositions that engender trust and acceptance --- much of this dialog suffers from classical change management issues inhibiting buy-in. Full disclosure and willingness to accept the feedback, participation, and will of the community of stakeholders can only strengthen and improve the final product. Without taking any sides or position, without intending to make any accusations - Please answer the following (which may help to raise the trust factor relative to the altruistic intentions here). Who were ALL the contributors to the proposal? Do they currently run or are they affiliated with a wingsuit school? If so, which ones? Of the contributors, which contributors have USPA ratings and which ratings? When did these contributors get their ratings? Recently? Do any of these contributors make a significant part of their income from skydiving? Was there any non-advocate review done by parties not affiliated with the team, thus mitigating potential conflicts of interest? Was there an intent to use such ratings as a discriminator for marketing or promotional purposes relative to other instructors or schools? Was there a reason for a few individuals taking the proposal to the USPA without comment from the wider community of stakeholders? Would the authors be open to pulling the current proposal pending before the USPA for wider comment and refinement based upon greater input? Who would likely be tapped as Instructor/Examiners for the WSI? Who will certify the WSI I/Es? If we believe our cause is just and without suspect, then we should not fear the light of day. -------------------------------------------------------- About the authors – pulled from Google searches. Douglas Spotted Eagle – Flock University, VASST & USPA-AFFI Rating Scotty Burns – Flock University & USPA-Coach Rating Scott Callantine – Flock University / World Record - Big Way Plane Captain & USPA Tandem, AFFI and Static Line Ratings Jeff Donohue – Flock University Sean Horton – Flock University & USPA-Coach Rating Jeff Nebelkopf – World Record - Big Way Founder / Organizer & USPA-Coach Rating Phil Peggs – Flock U Wingsuit School/Team, World Record - Big Way Organizer Justin Shorb – Flock University / World Record - Big Way Plane Captain & USPA-Coach Rating Chris Warnock - VASST Taya Weiss - World Record - Big Way Lead Organizer & USPA-Coach Rating “The only thing that we know is that we know nothing and that is the highest flight of human wisdom.”

dude did you read the fuckin thing? go back this thread to the links to all the documents justin posted and READ... names and other answers to your questions are all in there. again, read through the thing and see that they actually ask uspa for a period of time in which the wingsuit community can digest this, comment on it, provide feedback/input... Thank you SuperGirl --- I did read the entire thing. I stand by my questions --- no offense meant. I am actually attempting to help here -- full disclosure helps to foster trust and buy-in. “The only thing that we know is that we know nothing and that is the highest flight of human wisdom.”

As I have read and followed this lengthy thread, several questions come to mind. As someone who has some expertise in crafting propositions that engender trust and acceptance --- much of this dialog suffers from classical change management issues inhibiting buy-in. Full disclosure and willingness to accept the feedback, participation, and will of the community of stakeholders can only strengthen and improve the final product. Without taking any sides or position, without intending to make any accusations - Please answer the following (which may help to raise the trust factor relative to the altruistic intentions here). Who were ALL the contributors to the proposal? Do they currently run or are they affiliated with a wingsuit school? If so, which ones? Of the contributors, which contributors have USPA ratings and which ratings? When did these contributors get their ratings? Recently? Do any of these contributors make a significant part of their income from skydiving? Was there any non-advocate review done by parties not affiliated with the team, thus mitigating potential conflicts of interest? Was there an intent to use such ratings as a discriminator for marketing or promotional purposes relative to other instructors or schools? Was there a reason for a few individuals taking the proposal to the USPA without comment from the wider community of stakeholders? Would the authors be open to pulling the current proposal pending before the USPA for wider comment and refinement based upon greater input? Who would likely be tapped as Instructor/Examiners for the WSI? Who will certify the WSI I/Es? If we believe our cause is just and without suspect, then we should not fear the light of day. One option could be to make incremental steps rather than universal changes. Would the team be open to enjoining in consideration of such an approach? For example, moving current recommendations to requirements within the BSRs? Encouraging greater caution and information within the SIM? “The only thing that we know is that we know nothing and that is the highest flight of human wisdom.”