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I'm just curious - with the evolution of tandems from a compressed FJC to a carnival jump - is there a correlation between the amount of time spent on the ground with the student versus the no time other than gearing up carnival rider and balking at the door? "old timers" - who remember when there was at least a 30 minute training class - your viewpoints would be appreciated! A male pilot is a confused soul who talks about women when he's flying, and about flying when he's with a woman.

I am in NO way an expert - only 2600 jumps/1200 tandems/4 tandem chops - to this newbie, you did it right! (And yes, I am ruining the chop average - all tension knots years ago before the highly improved gear!) A male pilot is a confused soul who talks about women when he's flying, and about flying when he's with a woman.

Wasn't he on final approach for landing? On an active runway, I'm guessing with radio contact? Unless he was operating outside of standard landing config. (airspeed, approach, flaps, etc), I don't see how you could classify his actions as reckless or careless. I can't believe that the Deland PD doesn;t have an FAA liason in on this. How do the cops know what normal flight ops. are? Addtionally, didn't the FAA just reinstate his ticket? When was the last time they did that without an investigation of the accident? The cops need to let this one go. I'm sure there's a half blind, senile senoir citizen making havoc on the roadways out there somewhere that needs attending to. I flew jump planes for many years, IMHO, my responability for the jumpers did not end when they exited the aircraft. I would count canopies while I descended - paid attention to them while juggling airspeed, aircraft avoidance and "observors" on board. Again - it's just MHO - I needed to "see and avoid" the canopies - I was higher and faster. When I was in doubt about "where they were", I'd go burn a few more gallons away from where "they might be." The argument that "he was in a standard landing pattern" simply ignores the responsability the "higher and faster" person has. And to even mention "radio contact" demonstrates a complete ignorance of basic safe operating procedures - was the jumper using a radio to "announce and declare landing intentions"? WHere does the basic safety rule of "see and avoid" enter into the "radio contact" mindset? Landing an airplane is EXACTLY the same as landing a parachute - smart people plan the landing long before the "landing pattern" - maybe I am demonstrating my age when I mention that part of spotting on jump run is planning where a round reserve opening at 1,000 (or lower!) feet will land? A truly competant jump pilot is planning his landing based on not just the "normal airplane landing procedures" but also on where his load is AT ALL TIMES! And yes - that is complicated when multiple jump aircraft are dropping loads. When that is a reality, the pilot's responsabilty extends to the other loads as well. To fall back on the "in the standard landing pattern" argument is as wise as saying, " I was waiting at a red light - it turned green so I went forward without looking left or right and suddenly I was hit." Arrgghh - let's stop making excuses. Lower and slower has the right of way - higher and faster, when it does not yield, is always wrong. A male pilot is a confused soul who talks about women when he's flying, and about flying when he's with a woman.

What defines the difference between between "natural" and "supernatural"? If one works from the postulate that the working of God is a "natural" thing, would not "science" include the study of things often considered to be "religious"? Please remember, once "science" "proved" the earth was flat and that it was the center of the universe. A real scientist keeps her/his mind open. And I ain't no scientist! - A male pilot is a confused soul who talks about women when he's flying, and about flying when he's with a woman.

I have to agree - hang them both. - A male pilot is a confused soul who talks about women when he's flying, and about flying when he's with a woman.

Sorry you're going through something similar to what I went through. What worked was firing the lawyer and working with the school - demonstrating who the parent really was. 'Course - it was more complicated than that, yet putting the child first really is the best option. Doesn't matter how awful the ex is - focus on how you can help the child. (My son is now safe and secure with me! Took 4-1/2 years, cost me a flying career and it was worth it!) Kinda like a bad spot on a night jump - you know this is not going to be good, but you keep your head all the way in. Hang in there, my friend! Kids are always worth it! - A male pilot is a confused soul who talks about women when he's flying, and about flying when he's with a woman.

C'mon, Brett - tell us what you "know". You always treated me square when you were the DZO - be that same man again. - A male pilot is a confused soul who talks about women when he's flying, and about flying when he's with a woman.

Sangiro - for whatever reason, it's working with Netscape again! A male pilot is a confused soul who talks about women when he's flying, and about flying when he's with a woman.

Update - now I am getting "Operation timed out when trying to connect" when using Netscape. IE still getting in. A male pilot is a confused soul who talks about women when he's flying, and about flying when he's with a woman.

Well, wherever the updates came from, it's not just happening at dropzone.com. Talenttree.com is doing something similiar, but you get some error messages - wait - just checked again, now it's working (I notified them earlier today). I've done no updates for months to Netscape. Computers - wonderful when they work...... A male pilot is a confused soul who talks about women when he's flying, and about flying when he's with a woman.

It's definately something centered around the IE browser versus other browsers. I had switched to Netscape 6 months ago because of all the security issues. For the last 2 days I've been getting the "Connection refused" when trying to get here with Netscape, but with MS IE I get in. Were your server updates from Microsoft...? A male pilot is a confused soul who talks about women when he's flying, and about flying when he's with a woman.

Since the weather precluded my being at the DZ this weekend, I've been reading and responding some threads. On response, I've waited for the "automatically redirected" action to occur - it ain't happening. IE 6.2 Windows 2000 pro - all MS updates applied. Asking as a junior user to someone smarter than me - Waz up?!! - A male pilot is a confused soul who talks about women when he's flying, and about flying when he's with a woman.

16 jumps - to the obvious tune: Some people say a jumper is made outta cash A poor man's made outta credit and trash Credit and trash and skin and bones A mind that's a-weak and a back that's strong You jump sixteen times, what do you get? Another day older and deeper in debt Saint Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go I owe my soul to the manifest ‘ho I was born one mornin' when the winds did moan I picked up my rig and I walked to the zone I jumped sixteen times, out at 2 And the DZ boss said "Well, I’m still chargin’ you" You jump sixteen times, what do you get? Another day older and deeper in debt Saint Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go I owe my soul to the manifest ‘ho I was born one mornin', it was drizzlin' rain Drinkin' and trouble are my middle name I was raised in the loft by an ol' rigger man Cain't no-a high-toned woman make me sober again You jump sixteen times, what do you get? Another day older and deeper in debt Saint Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go I owe my soul to the manifest ‘ho If you see me trackin', better track away A lotta men didn't, a lotta blood sprayed A helmet of iron, booties tuned true If you’re in my way, I’m comin’ through You jump sixteen times, what do you get? Another day older and deeper in debt Saint Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go I owe my soul to the manifest ‘ho A male pilot is a confused soul who talks about women when he's flying, and about flying when he's with a woman.

Tra la la boom deyay You could go in today Tra la la boom deyay It could be you today Tra la la boom deyay And if it's you today Tra la la boom deyay Don't hit my Chevrolet! - A male pilot is a confused soul who talks about women when he's flying, and about flying when he's with a woman.

Yes, Many times. I Even went to the aircraft and we rehearsed the exit about three or four times for the one low timer on the load. Like BCH said, the guy with 40 some jumps took a wrong grip, and the count was given before he was ready..... Well, since this is a learning opportunity.......... You mention that the jumper giving the count could not see you and gave a quick count. Did you dirt dive the exit to include the "counter" to wait for a signal from each that they were ready? You know, someone, if not the "counter" herself, to see that all are ready and give the "hut!" -- A male pilot is a confused soul who talks about women when he's flying, and about flying when he's with a woman.