beowulf

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  1. If your central concept was that no one knows then why did you include C. S. Lewis paraphrase "I believe Lewis was remarking that the energy comprises what we think of as the soul, and he struggled mightily to reconcile faith with reason." Which is a very poorly thought out attempt at trying to claim that a soul is something real rather then imagined. Faith and reason are mutually exclusive and in this context contradictory by definition. The biggest problem is that religion claims to know what they can't possibly know. People who claim their particular god is real are simply pretending to know things they can't possibly know. Having faith in God is simply wishing really hard that God is real. I am not making any claim to knowledge when I disbelieve the claims that God exists. All I am saying is those making the claim have failed supply sufficient evidence to meet the burden of proof for their claim.
  2. ahh, missed that. It's hard to tell if someone is serious or not. Many religious people make those exact arguments. It's probably been more then a year since I have posted anything here. I should have recognized Douglas Adams' writing. I have read the Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
  3. No it's not obvious. It's very possible that this world could have developed naturally with out any omnipotent force directing it. Also false. There is no evidence to support that this universe was intentionally created by some unknown being. If this being is entirely undetectable and leaves no trace then how do you know it exists? Just because this universe exists does not automatically mean there was some being that created it. You can't just assume.
  4. We have no evidence to support the idea that there is some "force or higher power that engineered" this world. If what you imagine does not resemble what is commonly defined as god then why do you call it that? It's far more honest and logically consistent to simply say I don't know then to try and come up with an answer like "higher power" or "force".
  5. There is indeed no evidence to support belief in God. Yet a substantial percentage of people profess to believe. They are probably wrong, but it is possible that in some form there is actually a Creator of some sort. We can not know one way or another. It is not possible to be certain. It is not, and I believe it will never be possible for mankind to understand the nature of his existence. God cannot be ruled out. I am not sure that god can not be ruled out. Many definitions of god are self contradictory and therefore can be ruled out. Just like a round square is a contradiction so is an omniscient and omnipotent being. Stefan Molyneux makes a very good logical argument for this. https://board.freedomainradio.com/page/books/against_the_gods.html
  6. and,,,, based on this what do you choose? (i would agree with your logic. But you do choose, no matter how silly you might hold the choice of those that you disagree with in such disdain) it's not rocket science I do my best to base my beliefs on the best available evidence and scientific reasoning. Those that choose to believe in deities do so despite all evidence and sound reasoning.
  7. I like what C.S. Lewis said about this (I am paraphrasing because I do not have the actual quote handy) in relation the Thermodynamics (Lewis Apologia, et al)-- We human beings exist as both matter and energy. By our own physical laws, backed with science, logic, reason and mathematics, we can prove scientifically that we possess these characteristics. We know that matter and energy co-exist and cannot be created or destroyed under normal physical law (see Richard Feynman on "The Character of Physical Law"). That the matter and energy exist is without question. We know that when a person dies, the matter of which they are comprised begins to break down into its constituent elements (read: decompose). The big question (according to Lewis) is where does that energy go? I believe Lewis was remarking that the energy comprises what we think of as the soul, and he struggled mightily to reconcile faith with reason. That remark by Lewis amazed me: that anyone of faith would care enough about it to try to explain it in scientific terms instead of just "well, the Bible says so". And it definitely gives one pause if one thinks it through scientifically - there is a place where science, logic and reason cannot go, only faith can, noodly appendages notwithstanding mh . What you wrote only vaguely resembles thinking scientifically. This "place where science, logic and reason cannot go, only faith can" is called imagination. While it may seem real to you and others it's just all in your mind. We have no evidence that the mind can live with out a physical body. C. S. Lewis is just bullshitting you.
  8. Yeah, only thing that could be said is that their ancestors did exist at one time. Not that they inhabit whatever they claim that their ancestor inhabits. I wasn't trying to say that any claim that their ancestor lives on in some other form is credible.
  9. I agree, but there are people who worshiped their ancestors so you could say that those particular gods did exist.
  10. Also I don't simply choose not to believe. My belief is based on the evidence available. When someone sells me a used car I don't base choice of buying the car entirely on what the seller says about the car. I examine it and make my determination on the best available evidence in front of me.
  11. When you can't determine the answer to a question it does not mean that it's a subjective question. The question is whether or not a deity exists, in this case the Christian god. The question is objective regardless of whether or not you can determine the answer. Because there is no evidence to support the existence of any deity the answer must be No. You can either avoid the question or claim to know the answer based on your own personal subjective evidence that can't be scientifically tested or you can simply base your answer on the fact there is a lack of evidence and await any evidence to the contrary. But based on the wide variety of definitions for deities, it's very likely that deities are simply a figment of human imagination.
  12. Nice job trying to misrepresent the argument all together. NO, it's not about the Why? Why is entirely subjective. Whether or not God exists is not a subjective question. Your critical thinking skills are very poor.
  13. Regarding any argument, the question is always whether or not there is sufficient evidence to support the argument. So the question is always how much evidence and of what quality of evidence will you accept as being sufficient for you to believe the argument to be true. To be more accurate regarding your 3rd option, it's simply avoiding the question all together. I don't choose not to believe in any deity. I simply find the evidence to be insufficient to compel me to believe. If new evidence were to come to light that could change. But as of now I have not seen or heard of anything that would qualify as evidence of any deity.
  14. You have the second option entirely wrong. The second option is there isn't sufficient evidence to support the argument. Has nothing to do with choosing to believe or not. The third is simply the lazy way out.
  15. It's all in your imagination. It's sad that you have based your life on this fraud.
  16. No matter how good or well thought out an argument for something is... if there is no evidence that can be independently and scientifically tested there is no reason to believe and it is worthless. That's why the independent confirmation of scientific claims are so important. With out them they are meaningless and can not be taken seriously. Religion makes claims about the real world that can not be confirmed in any way. So there is no good reason to take their claims seriously. All of the burden of proof is on the one making the claim. In this case the burden of proof is on those claiming God exists.
  17. From Yelawolf to beowulf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it_04dk_97E Were you just bored? Is that why you dragged up this old post to comment on? Religion is probably the oldest scam around. Making promises that are only realized once you are dead and you can't call bullshit on, well because you are dead. I understand believing makes you feel good but that in no way validates the belief. I hope that one day you will face your fears and realize that your belief in God is nothing but lie that was fed to you all your life.
  18. based on what? what math are you using? they have dramatically increased capital requirements. they have dramatically decreased the banks ability to distribute capital to shareholders. they have also completely ended proprietary trading and drastically limited true hedging. there are many more additional requirements and policies that i dont have the time to list. its just math. they have made all the banks balance sheets stronger and limited their ability to weaken them. how is that not safer? am i saying the banks are fail safe? of course not. they are however, much safer than before and certainly safer than your describing. edit to add: its fine to say you dont trust the gov't or the banks and your opinion is based on your gut. im cool with that, fyi Well only time will tell whether or not my distrust in the Fed or banking system is well founded or not. There is no math that I can point to in order to definitively say that these new regulations won't make any difference. It's just historically new regulations haven't improved the situation. SOX regulations haven't stopped Enron type fraud from happening. The only things regulations really succeed in doing is limiting competition by making it more expensive for smaller banks to stay in business and new banks to start up. So we now see fewer banks total with the bigger banks getting even bigger. What you consider as making the banks balance sheets better is in my opinion just smoke and mirrors. The economy is not better since the housing market crashed it's only gotten worse. The banks appear stronger but if you mark to market their assets I think you find them to much less stable then they appear.
  19. I won't attack you for your comments. I just don't agree that these new regulations will make the banks any safer.
  20. I don't think the banking system is stronger because of what the Fed did to stave off "disaster" with QE. It appears to be more fragile then it was before the housing bubble, which no one in the Fed including Janet Yellen saw coming. The "Too Big To Fail" Banks are now even bigger. What will happen when the next "unseen" bubble pops? Who will bail these even bigger banks out? All they have done is set the stage for an even bigger crisis down the road. But don't worry the Fed will save us from the dreaded everyday lower prices of deflation and instead give us everyday higher prices of inflation. I find it amazing that they have managed to get people to think backwards and get them to believe that inflation is a good thing. The logic is so screwed up. I think the cartoon in BrentHutch's post is pretty funny and not far off from the truth.
  21. Everything the Federal Reserve has done in it's over 100 year history has been for the short term gain of it's member banks and politicians and the long term loss of the rest of the country. Most people don't realize that the Federal Reserve is not a part of the Federal Government, it's a private bank owned by a group of private banks. I don't see how Janet Yellen will be any better then any of the past Fed chairmen. I think she will be worse then Bernanke. The abject failure of QE will be easier to see as time goes on. I see a lot of parallels with Detroit. This video shows what corruption and kicking the can down the road did for Detroit. The Fed has allowed the US Gov to continue kicking the can down the road, very similar to Detroit. What we now have in the US is more like Fascism then a representative democracy. The US government doesn't represent the people they represent their own interests and the interests of big corporations. This is done openly by the lobbying system. Which I see as an institutional form of bribery and corruption. How or when it will end is very hard to predict but it will eventually end. It's not likely to end very well. http://youtu.be/IuOEf-pNXUI
  22. Nice choice, I don't think you will be disappointed with the way it shoots.