brinary01

Just to make everyone aware there are many fake downloads of this roaming around "2012 Bluerey" most of em state I finally found one that did not want me to pay for the download service first, how ever it did try to make the free service so painful it would be considered. after getting the first part down it was some other random movie. Just for everyone to know don't waste your time the only reason the name is out there is to sucker people, and there are probably quite a few viruses in it as well. My recommendation would be stick to coffee. Coffe is the classic energy drink that can be enjoyed in a number of forms hot or cold, has a well documented history of side effects, and has never made a promise of a move that we were all anxious to pay money for regardless of the lack of substance as a story, an after thought romance intrest, and multiple release date delays. All that said when I look at face book and see 11000 likes and compair it to the 14.6M like for Transformers I start to think someone said "we are not going to be able to pay the the shipping the the theaters let alone that sweet vacation to norway or the 20,000 jumps, or the Otter loads with 4 people, or the equipment rental... F it lets go skydive"

As no one has made a review of Lillo in a while seems like a good time to do it. I think it is important to keep the reviews on this one current, because as with any poorly run organization turnover is high, and things tend the change quite a lot. What is more, most of the reviews here are from our Jr. brother and though valuable I think the opinion of someone who has a few more destinations under there belt is important. Location: like most DZs this one is out there. It is in the middle of a desert in central Spain about and hour and a half from Madrid by car. Car is the only good way to go. Bus is possible but cumbersome when you are carrying all your gear. That said once you are there you are pretty much set there are some good staff that will help out with getting around. Facilities: Though there is everything you may need, not much better than a well-established club. With that there is a good packing area, grass landing area if you have 100+ jumps and decent aircraft. -Student and low number jumpers beware. Gear rental is expensive, the highest I have seen in fact and €25 a jump, and the student landing area can be pretty nasty in places. -Take food with you unless you want to pay your first borne to the gypsies that run the bar. Staff: There are some awesome folks working at this dropzone. Unfortunately this is the minority and there is a lot “Big fish” in this little pond. I have never seen student have such a hard time getting help, unless they are willing to pay a lot of money, and the mentality “you are old enough get out of the house” is used far to often with AFF Students. People: I love all of the fun Jumpers at this DZ but they have their circle and just because you are a skydiver it is not enough. Expect a really strange vibe, nothing to worry about if you are going with a group of friends but if you are flying solo I recommend making your way to Skydive Spain in Sevilla, or Empuriabrava north of Barcalona, in fact I live in Madrid and that is what I do. Summary if you are paying all the money to come to Spain for a skydiving holiday it is the same or less money to go to Empuriabrava, or Sevilla. Note on that more experienced jumpers may prefer Empuria in the summer, and check the event for Skydive Spain in the winter there is always something scheduled. And the do Skysaver days search the website. Less experienced jumpers may prefer Skydive Spain as they tend to have more friendly winds for the novice jumper. Tandems beware!!! Many of the tandem instructors here do not have a current and proper flight physical as required by the equipment manufacturer and the USPA. I have even seen one go down and be carried away in an ambulance for kidney problems right before getting on a load with a passenger. Many of the Camera flyers are not very good or even do not meet the minimal requirements for flying video with tandems. This is your big moment do not accept less. Look at Skydive Spain, Empuria, or Skytime Castellon.

Hey man did I meet you in Empuriabrava at the X-mass boogie? None the less, I cannot tell you much about Denmark but I would probably make my way up to Norway, to Voss in fact I am in August

SO the first question is how to rate a canopy I have only flown once, sense the only thing I have to compare with are various main canopies I will compare all the canopies with cars. Everyone here drives assume and I imagine most everyone reading this has pushed many cars to the limit. So here is the line up Saber 2 190 = Ford focus ST Navigator 210 = Ford Ranger Sport Vengeance 170 = Honda civic SI Smart 175 = Ford Focus LX First sense I was in a dive below 2000FT My body position was Sh!7 none the less the Smart opened nicely on heading. Flight was very smooth and predictable. The flare was nice and predictable. In the end how can you really rate something that is the last resort it opened, I landed on the DZ, I lived to jump another day you will not be disappointed in a reserve canopy.

Ok I got about 40 jumps on this canopy not much but I want to put in my two cents about the airlocks as this is the most distinct feature on this canopy and what really sets it apart from the other canopies I have flown, including Saber 2 190/170, and spector 230/210, and a few others not worth mentioning. Before buying this canopy I read a lot about it, and about the airlock technology. Three big issues mentioned downing the canopy on windy days, cutaways, and packing oh and openings I will address this separate. Cutaway: well I had to chop it once it was diving when I cut it away and it did not go far and winds I think were around 8 to 10 knots that day I recovered it with no problem but this is a forgiving DZ if there were trees I would have been paying a tree service to get it back but in no way did it fly any more than other cutaways I have seen. Packing: My canopy had about 400 jumps on it when I got it, I don’t know what every one is speaking of when they talk about it being hard to pack. To me it is not more difficult to pack than any other canopy of equal size in a equal size container, I am packing into a Jav J4 so it is going into a d-bag made for it. It is at the point were it is much easier to pack, but the issue is supposed to be with getting air out of it this has never been a problem. Downing the canopy: this is the pain about this canopy windy it is a real pain, I don’t bother trying to stow my breaks on a windy day because I will end up fighting the canopy, I don’t bother trying to daisy chain the lines on a windy day because I will end up fighting the canopy. I get to the tail asap and shake it to get as much air out as possible, stick the toggles in there holders, and pick the lines up neatly pickup my d bag n pc then move out. On low wind days if I twist and down it on it’s side just right it will land on the ground up side down (still fully inflated) in this case I do the same as above but stow my breast, and daisy chain my lines. Openings: not as bad as I had read but still kind of funky not bad at all if I fly the opening, and soft I have opened in a track and it did not slam me if not flown some times it is fine most of the time it opens in a dive, which can be a problem if you have line twist, and opened kind of low like below 3000 in my experience this was enough to chop it as I was loosing a lot of altitude quick I do not blame the canopy design for this as most of the issues that led to the cutaway could have been prevented and were a result of me being in a rush to pack, and opening lower than I planed to. So to summarize a lot of fun to fly, and other than downing the canopy, I like the airlock design, but as I jump in Spain it is quite windy very often, and I will replace it with something similar in a non air locked design if the right deal comes along. Hope this helps anyone considering this canopy. The only reason I do not recommend it is because it is such a pain to down and sense there are so many canopies that are similar with out airlocks I would say go that way first, but if the price is right you wont be disappointed with the flight.

Dido Bought my first piece of gear from him and Alti-III, worked perfect, great packing and fast shipping, could not ask for more. I wish there were a feedback area for this type of stuff in the DZ classifieds, I have used the classifieds several times but it is always kind of sketchy to give someone money without seeing the goods, and I like to give kudos when someone treats me right. Thanks Likestojump and thanks hudsonderek for starting the thread.

I am not sure what your finances and all are like, and I would not even mention this if you were in the U.S. but I noticed you are in the U.K. you know there is a boogie in Portugal from the 11th to the 16th ATMOBOOGIE with Marco Tiezzi (the tather of Atmonauit) doing load organizing I would be it would be a great place to find a lot of great guidance on the discipline.

1. Whats your name? Brian 2. How old are you? 27 3. Why did you decide to start jumping out of airplanes? At meps the guy said do you want to be Airborne? I said that is? He said Jumping out of planes! OK SIGN ME UP FOR THAT! Then I decided to do the real thing as soon as time and location permitted. 4. Are you single or taken? Single 5. Do you have kids? No 6. What do you drive? 2003 Subaru WRX/2008 Ford Ranger 7. Have you ever done a kisspass? No 8. Where do you live? Madrid Spain 9. Do you have any pets? Javelin Odyssey 10. How many jumps do you have? 91 as of to day 11. What color eyes do you have? Blue 12. What is your nationality? Mutt same as all the other Americans, mostly Irish though 13. Have you ever dated someone you met off the internet? no 14. Favorite Movie? 15. What do you do when you arent skydiving? Work and in the winter snowboard 16. Have you ever BASE jumped? No 17. If not... do you want to? Yes 18. Do you have siblings? A sister 19. Where do you want to travel to the most? Empuriabrava when there is good weather, and South America 20. What's your favorite color? RED, Blue I like them equally but not together 21. Where was the last place you flew to ( not skydiving )? Madrid

This raised another question for me. When an artist has a contract with a record label how much of their work do they own and do they have the authority to allow you do use their music. I know the cut and dried answer is the artist owns their work, but when they have entered a contract with a corporate entity where they agree to receive payment for the corporation for the music they produce does the artist still have any right what so ever to allow or deny the use of the music created.

First let me say I would not be posting anything here if you tax dollars were being used properly but sense they are being squandered I will make my second ever post here on DZ.com. Pimp out the roommate and buy all the gear and jump tickets you want

This review has been a long time in coming, as this was the first DZ away from my home DZ I visited I wanted to visit a couple more and develop a base line. Now that I have been to a couple of more DZs and gotten an Idea here it goes. The first thing I want to mention about Skydive Utah is the folks jumping there. Skydive Utah is a pretty small operation, you want find a bar, restaurant or swimming pool, but you will find some very friendly skydivers, in fact being away from my home (and in UTAH!) for the 4th of July would have be quite boarding if it were not for the regulars at Skydive Utah. As for facilities as I mentioned before it is lacking, but they have the most important stuff. Carpeted covered packing area, good mock up, enough of a gear store to cover the basic stuff you may want to buy at the DZ, and a good King Air. I did not rent gear because I have my own, but the rental gear I saw was pretty good for rental gear, including some FF Friendly stuff. As for the tandem operation I ended up there initially because of carrying family and friends for tandems which as many DZs is the blue chip. First I want to describe the tandem progression at my home DZ as this is the measuring stick that I am using. At my Home DZ the tandem ground school covers lots of stuff that was in my first jump course including malfunctions, and how a ram air parachute works. And the TIs continue mentoring the student all the way to the ground. Students leave the DZ more knowledgeable about the sport weather they pursue an A license or not. Now I trust the TI’s here to the point that I would take family and friends here for tandems in the future. I don’t think there tandem brief covers enough though. They don’t cover malfunctions, which in my own humble opinion is quite important. Now is there anything a student can do about a malfunction? No but they should be aware of the potential risk as well as the likely hood that it may happen without having to pay for the first jump course. That said the whole staff as well all the fun jumpers are very safety minded and I trust the lives of my friends and family with their Tandem and AFF instructors though none of them have continued the learning progression. Jack and Debbie are both very welcoming, and most of their staff is great. In fact there was only one staff member that rubbed me the wrong way, and Phil’s love for money over the love for the sport would probably not be nearly as annoying if it was not paired with his micro managing, sky god mentality. Wanting to make money for the DZ is ok for a DZ manager, but this guy has far too much ego, to mentor and lead the way a good DZ manager should he is the one thing that cost this DXZ the fifth star, but this one guy is not enough to keep me from returning to jump with the great folks who jump at this DZ. If you are in SLC check them out. Blue skies!

Well I have been a member of DZ.com sense about Apr, and never post so I never introduced myself but I am board and felt like doing so now. So hello check to profile for introduction info… now for my post I am looking for other English speaking jumpers around central Spain I just got to Madrid 3 days ago and thanks to DZ.com am aware of where the DZ’s are but have not had a chance to get there yet. So if there is any other English speaking jumpers around give me a shout. Even a little English works as I speak a little Spanish, and understand a little more. Take care and blue skys.