snowmman

1 minute ago, FLYJACK said:

Not at all,, 

Never miss an opportunity to point out when you are way behind...

What is "way behind" ?
There's a competition?

Who's winning? Who is actually even in this competition? Am I in it?

And who's judging it?

Is there a prize at the end?

33 minutes ago, FLYJACK said:

Snowmman..,,,

You are a year and a half late.

Never miss an opportunity to brag about yourself?

Well, I gave you one. Run with it.

18 hours ago, mrshutter45 said:

Robert, snow was asked early into the whole thing. he downloaded the book posted by Sheridan. he showed emails of there transactions, good and bad. I'm not the feelings police. people spoke out about it, good and bad, including 377. 

I didn't publish the book, nor did I grant any permission to publish the book. I don't know snow personally nor did I know Sheridan other than a few emails of him ranting about the government and you, Bruce and others, including 377 being a group from the CIA out to get him. 

Snow posted emails of Sheridan loving the book, especially the cover and things turned for reasons unknown. again, it's none of my business. it was between Sheridan and snow. 

I'm wrong all the time just as anyone else. the book will never sell to make any real money wherever it's listed. 377 has told you this many times as well. you never listen to anything except for what you believe in, no matter what is told to you. I've told you multiple times to take it up with those involved in the actual publishing of the book and the family attached to the person who wrote the book. it's not my fault you can't take care of the issue's you have surrounding the book. stop putting the blame on me.

I don't know any of Sheridan's family nor did I have a reason to know them. snow was friends with Sheridan, you were not. what ever happened between snow and Sheridan is between snow and Sheridan, not snow, Sheridan and Robert Blevins and certainly not me. I suggest, you get "The Staff" to track down Sheridan's family and stop putting it onto others to do the work you are whining about. in between you can fix your own book..

I have never provided full details of the book publishing before.

I will flesh it out a little here.

The first version of the book was from Lulu. Sheridan had done a poor publish of it.

I was probably the only person in the world that bought that copy. Sheridan took it down shortly after I bought it.

After a number of years, and futile discussions with Sheridan about publishing, I thought I'd force the issue. I did a revision based on that copy, and published it using Amazon KDP.

I sent copies to Sheridan. It looked really good. I included the cover drawing Sheridan had commissioned an artist friend to draw.

Sheridan then said I only had half the book. We talked about transmitting the latest version of the book to me, but Sheridan had massive computer problems.

In addition, someone had tried to help him by inserting photos into his Word document. This made the Word doc too big, and it wouldn't open any more.

Sheridan had a pdf though of that version. He gave me the pdf. I transcribed it to Word chapters. He gave me the photos that are in the book. I resized them and selected based on Sheridan's direction. I changed them to B/W (originally color) and optimized the pictures for contrast/brightness.

Sheridan and I had massive arguments about editting. He used an old style of complex phrases. He had turned off his Word spelling and style checker because of his extensive use of slang and vietnamese terms. He had misspellings of common characters and place names (inconsitent).

I fixed all that and did minor editting based on suggestions from Word. 

We had arguments about some racist language on picture captions. I reverted to exactly what Sheridan wanted. He considered it "truth"

There was one chapter he gave me, that in hindsight he said should be left out. He was back and forth on this. It regarded a personal detail of one character. He said it probably didn't add character development. But then, anyone who has read the book would say "character development" and what matters or not, is in the eye of the beholder. 

It's crazy to me that Sheridan insisted it was a literary documentary of the Vietnam War, when it was clear to me that it was a memoir. But it's his book, so I let his description of it and his motives stand.

Sheridan was very nice when I visited him. I visited him in person twice, one with my wife. I fixed his computer once. 

One time when I was in Alaska, in a small town, I had been out of cell phone contact for a week. My phone rang on the streets of Talkeetna. Excitedly I answered, wondering who it could be. It was Sheridan, ranting about some imagined wrong I had done, or CIA or FBI thing..Or rant about 377. 

I liked the guy. I saw mementos of his travels in his small apartment. He was very gracious. He was proud of his book and bought copies from Amazon to distribute to his acquantances. He didn't even get to use the author's discount.

In short, Sheridan's life and story is more rich and more real, and deserves a little more respect than the rantings of someone like Blevins.

Did I do the right thing by Sheridan? I think so. The nice thing is that the book he always wanted is there for anyone to read. He always thought of himself as a good writer. He always wanted to have written a good book. I think he has. Sure it's not very everyone. But it's Sheridan.

Sure I have questions. But I let them rest. 

The Amazon version of the book is easily twice the pages of the Lulu version. I had to go to 7x10 format to get the book in a reasonable number of pages. Every page Sheridan wrote is in there, except for that one chapter. And the photos. The book weighs 2.4 lbs and is over 1" thick. I joked with him about difficulty in getting it to fit in something Amazon could publish, and he said he had a paperback version of War and Peace, so it had to be possible.

EDIT: I do miss Sheridan and am sad thinking about how he died, presumably alone. I spent many years in email back and forth (argumentative) before this book episode. So I guess it felt like there was some connection that was longer than the book period. Sheridan's life was complex.


I've always wondered about the people he refers to in his book. I posted a photo of Sheridan surrounded by other members of the Saigon Sport Parachute Club, from back in the late '60s, in VIetnam.

I always wondered what they thought of him. I liked the photos were Sheridan smiled, best. I think he had a richer life in the past before we all got to know him.

Was he more sane in the past, more social?
I don't know. Honestly, I think that reflects badly on me, but in truth, it was mostly about him and where he was in life, constraining human interactions.

EDIT: I just checked the historical reports in KDP on sales at Amazon. There have been only about 22 copies sold. I paid for a couple copies I sent to Sheridan and others for review before the last (3rd) edition was finalized. 

So for all of Blevins ranting, it's really funny what a small thing the reality is.

20 hours ago, RobertMBlevins said:

Too tough on you? This proves simply that I own this thread, not Snowmman, which IS actually spelled with ONE M, no matter what he claims. (*laughs*) 

I may be a lot of things, but someone who stole Sheridan Petersen's book and published it for 25 bucks a pop in paperback at Amazon and cheated his family out of the royalties due them isn't one of them.

Gotta have something you're willing to plead to, when the FBI comes at you for murder etc.

8 minutes ago, FLYJACK said:

 

You are trolling Blevins.

I was just trying to be helpful and post the facts for the wider Cooper community, if you guys copy it and choose to reject it that is up to you. Don't blame me for your confusion.

But, you have to laugh at Georger's misfire, classic Georger. Mr misinformation.

and Snow, if you notice Georger never has anything himself other than criticisms or praise, he rides on others work for attention,,, heads up.

okay.

Yes I will admit I have a soft spot for georger built up over the years, and he gets a free pass from me.

Snowmman is a train wreck.

I can't believe that guy. Luckily it's obvious to all!

I have the emails to prove it!

So Flyjack.

Whose description of cooper was "laboring type man"

Was it a stewardess as the 1988 fbi report(s) imply or no?

inquiring minds, etc.

1 hour ago, FLYJACK said:

No Snow,

Your dismissal is hereby rejected.

Dan Cooper: cigarette stains on right hand.

and Georger agreed... you guys need to up your game if you want to solve this.

OK, this is hilarious Georger tried to mock me for posting the facts but he reads the wrong description... the top one is Eugene Cooper, the bottom one is Dan Cooper.. 

I am being ridiculed from a position of shear ignorance.. can't make this stuff up.. HAHAHA...  I can't take it....  this is hilarious.

Learn to read FLYJACK,,  HAHAHA.. stop it man you are killing me.

Snow is still lost,, what a train wreck.

 

fine. you can believe whatever you want.

I stated what I believe.

I'm pissed you're not focused on me more.

This thread is about me, damn it.

And when is the fuel truck going to be done?

If I'm trolling and you're responding: why?

Don't feed the troll. If I'm so obviously wrong, why do you respond? You have a weak spot that's easily poked.

With a stick.

13 hours ago, RobertMBlevins said:

I am sure you are curious.  

 

I will pay you $52,743 to post the emails.

You know this offer is good, because it's the internet.

7 hours ago, RobertMBlevins said:

 

My question is, what gives YOU the right to do that to Sheridan Petersen, a guy who could barely defend himself against you. You haven't asked, but you should see his emails to me while you were doing this. Maybe I will just publish them anyway. They were sent to me, so that would be allowed. 

Hi Robert Blevins.

Feel free to publish any emails Sheridan wrote attacking me. I have no problem with that. In fact, I'm curious.

Thanks.

50 minutes ago, FLYJACK said:

Sounds like a lot of things..

Why would dropzone allow a permanently banned A-hole back on?

50 minutes ago, FLYJACK said:

Sounds like a lot of things..

Why would dropzone allow a permanently banned A-hole back on?

I hereby announce this thread is all about me.

Please continue!

4 hours ago, FLYJACK said:

This is why I don't post most of my research... too bad as everyone loses.

Snow-hole's ungrateful attitude in using my research. At least he didn't claim it was his like Ulis did.

If I post something I expect it to be shared, not disrespected. You are done Snow.

"You are done, Snow" sounds like some kind of threat.

So how do internet threats get carried out?

Can people threaten others on this forum? Why the heck would dropzone.com host a forum where people actively threaten others? ...geez I thought jumpers had some ethics/comradrie etc!

Not? 

17 hours ago, RobertMBlevins said:

Snowmman and Georger. Two peas in a pod. Both stubborn as hell. They are never wrong, even when they are. 

 

Message for Snowmman: Anytime you decide to have a conscience about Sheridan Petersen and his book, you can reach me at adventurebooksofseattle AT G Frickin' Mail Dot Frickin' Com. 

no conscience here.

walking dead man. etc.

4 hours ago, FLYJACK said:

This is why I don't post most of my research... too bad as everyone loses.

Snow-hole's ungrateful attitude in using my research. At least he didn't claim it was his like Ulis did.

If I post something I expect it to be shared, not disrespected. You are done Snow.

You can do better than that! 

Learn to insult like a pro! win friends and influence people!

Give me a hint about what I lost? Your affection? Your time? What's your time worth? Your brainpower?
Everything is replaceable. So are you. Get used to it.

Ah the tragedy of being one of many billion on planet earth.

We're all just ants!

The trick is becoming more than an ant!

Good luck!

On 9/9/2021 at 2:08 AM, RobertMBlevins said:

 

I shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die.

Try to get a conviction. 

Flyjack,

Why do you bother spending time calling people stupid? 

This isn't about curing cancer. It's just db cooper.

Calling someone stupid over something they say about db cooper investigation, is a little much, don't you think?

I mean, in the end, none of this matters. Why so serious?

4 hours ago, Coopericane said:

Oh huh, I am surprised it has been around that long. I was under the impression it was relatively new information. It hasn't seemed to be discussed very often until somewhat recently, at least. Actually Jo Weber was talking about it earlier... 2014 I think? maybe she just saw something in the 302s that other people missed/ignored.

 

I just looked at the properties on the downloaded file 10 from the fbi vault.

assuming the one that is there is the same as when it was first made available.

it says

Creator: Adobe Acrobat Pro 11.0.19

Created Thu 30 Mar 2017 05:25:24 PM UTC

523 pages

So that sounds maybe correct? released in 2017? 

I forget when they started doing the almost-monthly releases. was it around then?

But definitely it was created before this year.

Jo didn't have access to any 302's that other people didn't have access to. More likely someone told her something.

45 minutes ago, Coopericane said:

The information about the Heisson break-in first emerged in the 302s a year or two ago right? Perhaps there are further 302s to be released on the topic, at least we can hope so...

I'm almost sold on it definitely being Cooper. In the dropzone on the night of the hijacking is just a little too perfect... and it sounds exactly like the kind of items someone in his situation might steal. We have to be prepared for the possibility that it could have been a random hobo though (or worse, that we'll never know the truth). 

My biggest problem is with the reported footprints... I'm no expert on such topics, but I could buy the above being mistaken for military. I feel like they should leave a deeper imprint in the ground or something if they were true boots, but who knows how closely those footprints were actually examined.

Cooper could have had his own pair of boots too... can't forget the Corcoran boots the man from Elsinore had. Perhaps he brought them on board and put them on before jumping in the window of time he had alone to himself back there.

No the information on the Heisson store is old. It was in the fbi file 10 on page 416

fbi file 10 has been around forever. I'm not eactly sure when file 10 was released.

I wonder if it was a bogus report to police. the details seem almost too cute.

4 minutes ago, FLYJACK said:

I don't mean it negatively,, I already went over the recent stuff you have been posting when you were away and got very little response so it is good to see you are now discovering these things as well...

Yes I don't really use the dropzone.com search. It seems more cumbersome then it used to be. 

Also, google search doesn't seem to hit dropzone.com well. I wonder if they tell google not to crawl these pages. 

In terms of "being all over the place"

Of course.

It's just the internet. There's no job or official investigation. Just random people posting random stuff.

There's no "protocol" or need to be focused on anything, really.

It's just social media. Very few fules.

I'm surprised I can post here. Quade said I was banned for life. Is Quade still moderating?

Who's in charge here! I need to be banned! for violating the rules!

34 minutes ago, FLYJACK said:

 

The store break in fits Cooper well, right area, right time, right stuff stolen... right along the rail tracks.

I'm really amazed at what was reported stolen.

And guessing, by what wasn't stolen.

No liquor was stolen? If I was FBI or LE, I would have looked for clues like that, for guessing who broke in. Kids, homeless, etc.

And in 1971, I don't think it would be common for homeless to be wearing "military" footgear.

too bad they didn't do a cast of the footprint back then.

Amazing there's no more detail about the investigation (or non-investigation) of this break-in.

1 hour ago, FLYJACK said:

But, if there were missing bills then there weren't rubber bands around all the packets..

That's a good point.

How do the rubber band people resolve "rubber bands stuck to center of 2 packets" and 280 bills

Did 2 packets have 100 bills, and one had 80?

3 minutes ago, snowmman said:

Sure

But why say 280? Why not 210?

280 seems like a poor estimate (20 less than 300)

We both agree there's no record of why they said 280. I'm just saying the 280 could be way off.

In fact if it was really 280, that's amazing.

only 20 bills lost from top and bottom of packets? were the lost 20 equally distributed among 3 packets..?

like was 7-10 bills lost per packet or ??

that is interesting if true. Why wouldn't more be lost? And depending on whether they were lost from top or bottom, might be interesting. I would think random processes might cause top and bottom to lose bills equally. But maybe not, if say just one side was more exposed to weathering.

1 hour ago, FLYJACK said:

They couldn't get the number exact,, the 280 bill count was an estimate.

Sure

But why say 280? Why not 210?

280 seems like a poor estimate (20 less than 300)

We both agree there's no record of why they said 280. I'm just saying the 280 could be way off.

14 minutes ago, FLYJACK said:

They don't say how they did it but it was an estimate of 280.

I don't think it would be very hard at all. You can use bill SN's in the 12 piles to match the original micro sequence. With that original list if the bill SN's fall within a range of 100 (x3) that means three packets in the original order. Not hard to do but they never disclosed how they did it..

yes if they had the list of the original order, and they compared just the top and bottom serials that they had (they might have to look down or up in their individual packet list, if some "top"  or "bottom" bills had disappeared...

then they could be certain of the number of bills probably found.

But if they only had top bill serial numbers (visible from tena bar bundles) then they would only be able to determine number of unique packets. Not total number of bills found (since some bottom bills could have disappeared)

They would have to pry a bottom bill off each packet, to get the bottom bill serial, to make a determination as to # of bills in that clump (comparing to recordak)