VectorBoy

Bullshit, git the dogs out we'll find that sucker!

Come on people you are in a wingsuit. Just go out last. Go way past the spot. Exit then 45 back and you will have an opening offset from the high traffic central core and to north and you will avoid all aircraft. You are in wingsuits, the organisers are looking for YOUR leadership in the matter. At that event its the only way to go. Your biggest hurdle would be keeping first jump wingsuiters from hooking back TOO early for a more familiar " above tent city" opening and thats even if they are aware of their navigation. Open away and to the north and you may open higher and safer ( at least for the first timers and a good habit for bigger flocks too ) Then smoosh in under canopy like the rest of the maggots. I'm with Phree on what happened last year as far as participation. The AZ crew didn't say a thing until I asked a thing about wingsuits on day one by that early morning Burke was talking it over with BM people at the BM booth. As the boogie progressed even the carolina crew was onboard and helpful. It just takes a while for it to filter down the infrastructure. Definately not in the loop= mullins, the helo's and the biplane. Things might change by this year = hint-hint! The HERC just dropped every one at 15K so it didn't matter. With the extra 2K in altitude you can just side step the jump runs below you if you know where you are.

The van is a sweet wingsuit launch platform.

What I mean by wicked PC throws is...... Rantoul was a crazy place. One of the rules was no high pulls because of the relentless air traffic. You must pull at or bellow 3k. Wingsuits usually pull higher and at rantoul the flocks were usually bigger than average requiring even higher deployment. I was new to my S-3 and with 20 jumps on just getting use to greater attention it requires at pull time than my classic. Many organizers BTW believe that events such as WFFC is no place for specialty activity, such as tandems, AFF and wingsuiting. We experienced "falling maggots" on more than a few jumps. So for the most part here I was on larger than typical groups forced to deploy lower than usual, more so considering the size of the groups we were flying in. Partying for many days on end without pause, a little exhausted, behind the power curve. One thing I knew for sure I wanted to do was really get that PC "out there" nice and brisk, this is something I'm usually more fluid and smooth about doing. Well this wicked PC tossing was causing me to thrash my body position right when I needed to be smooth and symmetrical above all else. I ended up getting line twists almost straight for two days on just about every deployment. The conditions at the event caused a knee-jerk change in my deployment priorities. After talking it over with Chuck it made sense and as paid better attention to the smoothness of deployments I was again greeted with very sweet openings. Problem solved.

You can take the girl out of the army but you can't take the army out of the girl.

My co-workers say he looks like a conehead. I can't laugh because they say I look like one of the borg in mine.

I rarely get line twists while wingsuiting. But while I was at Rantoul I got them almost back to back for a few days. SM1 helped me sort out some issues with wicked PC throws from just being overtired and viola, none after that except for the rare event.

You lived! BTW I don't recommend crossing your legs while in a wing suit, this may tend to put you into a spiral. closing your legs should be good enough.

Sukhoi and Mig are only design bureaus, each make nothing. Their designs are made by contractors. Sukhio has designed some great late generation fighter jets and some unique civil craft.

Excellent questions. When the size of the formation gets big you want to have the leader(s) perform shallow gradual turns. Think of it as a large RW type base that shouldn't really be zig zagging back and forth across the sky. The leader should exit and fly along the line of flight for as long as it takes for everyone to exit. Everyone should do there part and come out as quick as they can. Like in CReW and big way RW they are part of one formation. If the leader takes off in a sharp angle away from the aircraft it just spreads flockers out as this spread is growing wider as the craft continues away from the direction of the flock. Its very dangerous for stragglers to be zooming in on a formation from behind as nearby flyers are settling into their slots. If you get left behind don't sit there and do over unders with other straggler buddies. You need to keep your eyes on the main formation: 1 You can rejoin it by leading it or cutting the corner of their turn back to the DZ and gracefully taking your place in the slow wing. 2 If the main formation is near breakoff there may be flockers in the wings that will be compelled to do not just a 90 degree but a full 180 and come back and head in your direction thinking they are headed for clean air. Have you ever witnessed closing speeds of two wingsuits in a max track, gnarley! There is no place for 180s on flocking or tracking jumps, This is dangerous. Fan out, maximum 90 degrees, if need be carve a second 90 after you have flown along for a while. If its a big way you should have a higher breakoff altitude not extreme maneuvering at the very end with no time left. The ultimate wingsuit big way would be one that carves a very shallow but constant ARC back to the wingsuit operating area of the DZ. This allows the newer or not as efficint flockers to stay on the inside wing but yet be very much in the formation. With the more experienced faster gliding flockers on the outside flying faster more comfortably. It would have very little vertical development and hopefully very few stragglers. You could look left or right up the echelon and see your buddies.

Awwhhh Lou, Ya busted me. I CAN get the wings to inflate on that suit but I have to fly arched with my head hung over forward making for a lousy camera platform. I can actually get good numbers too. Just no looky down. And the picture you took was before the mega grippers were installed on my wings. Next time you are in proximity to the Phi on the ground snap some shots of its vents & locks as a value added teaser for those of us that won't get close to one for a while, K?

You mean beer factor Sparky.

If it has airlocks does it have two sets of ram air inlets? One on the back as well as the standard front as in Jari's backflying prototype S-3 ( which is now mine wahahahah ). Or does it have just one set that are placed forward enough that they "see" the oncomming air at various non- standard angles of flight? That in unison with the airlocks keep your tail feathers inflated and from going limp and flappading while you are back flying as seen by everybody on your video?

Once at band camp on a DC-3 jump, after sitting in those hard dished aluminum seats and not checking my hackey right before exit, at pull time I was suprised to find that little sucker about halfway into the BOC with the PC compacted very nicely into the remaining half. I learned a little and a lot that day.

Can a pull out ever have a horseshoe mal, does it happen very rarely? Or is this the territory of the throw out only?

* Blowing ones O ring out is a technique but not one that Birdman Inc. condones* Good, while in the suit the only rings I like to blow are my aftaboirnersmoke rings. BabaLou can you give us a verbal description of some of its design differences, compared with the other suits, without letting the cat out of the bag? Oh fuck the feline spill it! It appears there are some small triangular raised sections on the arm wings near the root ( shoulder ). Are these " top vents" with air locks or something? Are the cells more front vented as opposed to the standard leading edge bottom vents? This and fifty other questions await you.

The only thing I don't like is they take too long to open for me. I like quick openings (whack!) I've dumped in full out tracks with em and they still opened slow. Yeah baby yeah! I've only got one neck to give. Slow ride is the way!

I will be there all boogie long.

O ring wha...? Flying camera on the back is a bitch Deuce. Flying on your back without a camera is easy, well kinda. I can get into the low fifties and touch the forties on my S-3 back style if I leave the cameras on the ground. Come out in may and we'll play.

I realize that it's not always black and white and "better" is too simple of an adjective to use use sometimes... That said, your posts and a few others made me wonder - is the MTR2 "better" (better glide angle, longer flights) than BM's S3? To answer your questions we had spent a day jumping with Cedric and his new matter2. Now normally we flock so speeds are as good as our weakest flyer but he really worked a group of us on S-3s and this group can usually catch most anybody on anything. The suit seamed a little more effortless and natural. Even though this design is new and Cedric is still feeling it out the flights were very impressive. I heard of this happening to another group on a different day in the past. That group was impressed. And one person in that group got to try it personally. There will be Demo suits in a month so more people can give it a first hand review. Personally I'm pretty excited about this prospect.

THREE FREAKIN' WEEKS after I order a new S3, you guys release a new suit! I don't think you are going to be unhappy with your S-3 Bud.

Does this mean they are going to design in a better flare for the lightning? I guess I could be considered as an offender in the downsizing before its my time into as an example the previously mentioned other manufacturers canopy. Onto a simultaneous wing loading of 1.4 and 1.6 as I got two examples of there product into my permanent possession at or or around 150 jumps. Several hundred jumps later joining a CReW beginners camp loaded in beteen what I would load myself on either of my regular mains. My only concerns were this lightnings lack of flare and the cabability of my reserve. No low turns means exactly that. And you can eliminate 97% of the problems jumpers get into if they follow this very simple rule.

Now be a nice company rep and tell us all about it, and why we need it monkey.

Nice Bowie, that deployment sequence needs to be on either the Bird-man website or fly BM.com in the education section. It would answer some questions before they are asked.

Right on, At this point its not about a relationship its about CONTROL.