VectorBoy

Second, you don't know me or what I want. I did study the issue on both threads. You never answered his technical question properly. You could have said nothing and acomplished the same. Then you warned him about arrogance and ignorance with the word ambulance thrown in. I don't represent you, know nothing of your views and your ways. I DO KNOW that a great many people look here for info, some ask, some lurk. I DO KNOW that many of them get turned off by responses like yours. The last two sentences are NOT my opinion but a FACT heard time and time again on the dropzone and through PMs. Be constructive in your replies.

Unless one of them is an extremely jealous ex-con who is soon to be parolled from a manslaughter conviction. That should be on the " oh yeah BTW'...... list.

I would have liked to have been one of his apprentice laminaters back before I had a life. Having licensed plan sets for a couple of his designs and no time to work on them is a constant aggravation for me. Mojave airport bum, perris airport bum, whats the diff?

Correct Deucipoo!

Lets try to be a little more helpful not so much just for Mr cloud but just in case there is anyone else out there that may benefit from a real answer: Although you are are not alone in starting to jump video early you started very, very early. You do have very little experience in the many other dangers in skydiving. I don't personally know you and can't comment on your canopy skills or your video skills, so I won't. Use the goggle sight for many, many jumps before you introduce a helmet mounted ringsight. It adds a tremendous amount of added danger of entanglement. The longer you use the goggle sight the better a videographer you will become. The longer you use the goggle sight the better chance of developing your other skills without having one eye simi-obstructed. No matter how comfortable you feel with your set up get another non camera helmet and jump without camera 50% of the time and focus on other fun and lifesaving skills without the distraction of the camera. Sometimes its better to have your camera helmet on the ground in your gear bag than on you head during an emergency WISHING it was already on the ground.

Dave has some valid points. He asked you to observe your limitations. You admit to starting camera flying too early. Without looking at your set up it would be hard to say how much of an added work load it proposes regardless of how comfortable you feel with it. That said, Dave's response was way wrong, or rather his delivery of the message. Dave wants to have a positive impact on young fresh jumpers and sours them with a negative message. Nobody wants to see an ambulance on the dropzone but if the message is going to fall on deaf soured ears, you might as well have said nothing. Sometimes you need to sugercoat so that nothing but your true message is heard and not how tired YOU are of seeing jumpers do things before they are ready. If your message is not constructive they may "shop" for a message from some CRAZY jumpers or worse yet from freeflyers!

#1 would be a aviation quality GPS. #2 If you want something different you could buy him an add-on glider rating. It would be more expensive than a GPS ( roughly about $1400.00 ) but he will be current in a piston single and transition nicely. He has one of the best schools right in his back yard to take advantage of. Its a hell of a lot of fun. #3 An airbatic introduction to yankin' bankin in some birds designed for this purpose with instructors that know what they are doing. Probably cheaper than the GPS idea, but he will have to drive to John Wayne or long beach. Find out what his interest is, what your budget can afford and go from there.

This Sunday 4-11. There will be a group of flockers down at skydive San diego for some fun flocks. Come on down and join this informal gathering of wings and fly back from altitude across a beautiful lake. All skill levels welcome to join in, come work on flocking and have some fun!

Yes during the Dropzone.com boogie, there will be a wingsuit boogie. No extra fee above and beyond the regular boogie fee. There should be a few wingsuit instructors for first flights, wingsuit Demos, technical flocks and fun flights. All skill levels are welcome. This will be a good opportunity to improve your flying skills with others in a safe manner.

This must be some new generation of Onyx prototype compared to the Onyx that was test flown say a year and a half ago? As I remember that one fell short in a lot of areas.

Since the surface area a human can hold with their arms is limited. I believe the designers are staying with the correct airfoil for a given airspeed that results in the perfect amount of lift without excessive force being put on the humans shoulder. Like a fighter jet. But if people will attempt to land a suit, something along the lines of what you are thinking, something slower and floaty with more surface area may be the ticket. Right now the suits are flying faster and better by improvements in other areas besides " getting more wing area". The Phi looks like it features less wing area.

A friend and I were having a discussion on emergency procedures for a cut away. After a reserve ride he looked down in amazement at what he was still holding in his hands, his reserve D ring. You see his personal procedures were always to pull and toss away all of his handles. Gear is cheap compared to the one life you have and he wants his hands available to fly his reserve instead of stowing handles. I may be mistaken but wasn't there a fatality where an main entangled with a partially pulled cut away handle resulting in the reserve getting tangled also. I've always stowed all of my handles and even re-seated my reserve handle in its velcro holder after my reserve pull ( it wasn't pulled that far before I was in the saddle and I felt it was the safest place for it). Everyone on the ground thought that I had suffered a premature reserve deployment as a result. Question is should the handles be pulled and tossed away as standard procedure? Handles are inexpensive, they possibly could interfere with reserve piloting. How much effort should we put into keeping and stowing them after our life saving moment?

Mohawk-it!

QuoteJust like your cutaway cables on your rig, you need to keep the cables on your suit clean and slick. Quote And don't forget straight. For most people it is not a concern but I have inspected suits in the field where the cut away cables are routed on the wing tab instead of the body side tab where the main lift web and laterals go through the wings. In a few instances the cables have taken a set, in some cases its a hard set of almost 90 degrees. These cables have no " hard housings" to keep them straight. If you route them on the body side when passing the omitted tabs they have a better chance of staying straighter than the wing side.

Why not a CReW pass at the end of a normal jump run on any standard AC, to a designated WS deployment area, safeand away from the fracus.

I love the colors too.

The antenna landing area has its flaws also as flock after flock would be flying over in the areas that the helos and the biplane use, the biplane was prolific. And as you may remember a full altitude weather hold didn't hold it back as long as it could take a jumper to 4500 feet and stay relativily VFR. Both of these craft stayed south near the antenna field and operated at altitudes we would be deploying at. Your fat taxiway to the big hanger ground reference idea is a good one. If only you could get the organizers have the aircraft let you out after they turn a right crosswind after jump run is completed. You could go long, stay completely away even at pull time, be screaming back in tail winds covering mucho ground which adds to the whole wingsuit experience. This would require some cordination though.

I had this class in the military

Thats why I my lawyer and CPA are both prostitutes. Hey they can't be wrong.

actually my experience was just the opposite. I had over 1000 jump experienced jumpers lost on their first wingsuit jump and 300 jump wonders navigate perfectly not on just their first flights but every jump after that I was able to witness.

There was nothing wrong with his diet, he just forgot to drink his burbon to keep the side effects of that diet away.

It is as simple as see the runway, fly away from it and stay outside... and open high if you feel the need, cause we flew way outside of jumprun. We will exit last at WFFC this year, Chris Chris is right, it is this simple. As long as the wingsuit specialists are creative enough to get what is needed for a safe operation. Getting all wingsuiters comply would be nifty, getting all aircraft operators to assist would be nothing short of a miracle.

Extending the spot does not work at large boogies because it jams the pattern as the trail A/C won't drop people until the lead A/C calls off of jump run. Quote I'm sure in theory this is the plan but when chuck and myself saw the Skyvan 1/3 mile behind and a 1000 feet lower than us in the otter on the center jump run. I would have to say sorry you are not going to tell me they hold the van drop if it finds itself up farther than it should be. I'll put it in perspective for you. Its like twenty different aircraft from four different commands all trying to do their good work on dog show day without talking through a central command but going through there own channels instead. Fact: that event hosted simultaneous parallel drops. Fact: that event didn't know a wingsuit from tutu at first. Fact: there are aircraft at the event that operate outside of normal channels of co-operation. Fact: when you put 3500 hard partying people + staff in a new place for ten days nothing is "on Rails". Even Eloys boogie had "ripples" in the aircraft operating norm and thats one command. You might think of a special long spot like the aircraft turns off jump run and heads north or south say two miles ( less than aminute and a half )and wingsuiters fly back to an offset openning. But really good luck with that idea unless the aircraft is a full load of wingsuiters. For the moneys sake most aircarft operators won't go for that. This would require a whole lot of communication that the event isn't famous for.

Guess what if you are on a collision course with another aircraft on a parallel jump run the danger is the same at the beginning of the jump run as in the end of the jump run. That is if speeds are constant like on a jump run. Unless you go long while the other craft descend after they drop their load. Now if you can insure an "outside" or northern pass or call it a biplane pass to stay away. Then now you are talking. But thats just the begining, like I said before now you have to keep new flyers from heading BACK for a more familiar deployment area picture. Good luck on wingsuit specific jump run aircraft. WFFC is one of the most exotic, chaotic, international multi- discipline, fun first communication second events held on the planet and the airspace above it.

How about FARs!!!!???? I know Phree..not bagging on you. But come on BOD! Call a spade a spade! The USPA can not instigate FAA violation punishments, the BOD members haven't gone to any FED weeney power sucking band-camp yet. Or have they? They can ask that we, as USPA members, be aware of and not violate FARs.