VectorBoy

Girl you need to " simma down now"!

Yes If I'm approaching the DZ after a nice wingsuit flight and I don't see you there under canopy floating along, BOOM! Nope, unless you are on a tandem, a student under canopy at 5 k or A CReW formation you will never see a wingzoomer. Some DZs have separate CReW/ high pull areas vs Tracking/ winsuit operating areas and do a good job of keeping them separate. Some DZs like a nice wingsuit swoop of qualified and notified tandem master and passenger after a discussion of how many tandems and how many wingsuits will be on any given load. I have received requests for these on occasion. You are very much more likely to have someone on a regular skydive not give you enough exit delay on a regular dive, drift above you while you deploy, track along the line of flight into your group than have problems with a wingsuit jumper. Unless of course if I exit first and swing back under jump run. I could exit with you in grips for three seconds then let go fly away in my wingsuit and before I was on a downwind leg you would be off of the landing area packing. And wingsuiters are more likely to have problems with aircraft separtion. Both on exit and then during descent. So how again does a wingsuit jumper place you in extra danger?

How so?

Back in 1985 before fast canopys, Big ways (even small ways), cameras,wingsuits, freefly tubes, hell before freeflying as we know it today.Before widespread turbines I lost friends. 50% gear 50% human... error that is back in the day. And my day didn't start as early as some of the posters on these forums. Less than 100 jumps and I was not going to get on any ( of the two overworked tiny cessnas we had working for the dz) of the DZ aircraft on a square, any square canopy, regardless where it came from, regardless of my experience. And I understood the square parachute much better than the round and proved it on my first square chute jump. Gear has gotten soooooo much better! Ask our generous posters like Bill booth and other gear designers that have been around the block a few decades. I shiver at the thought of jumping nostalgic gear for fun personally, thats just me.You go ahead. The new stuff isn't just prettier its made to offset the stupidness in me. Proof: more people are getting hurt with perfectly good gear now. All kinds of jumpers with all kinds of experience on all kinds of gear. Like Dave said skydiving attracts people and personalities from all walks of life. I have noticed the jumper who sweats every detail, is a ball of nerves the whole time to altitude even when they have high jump numbers. And know jumpers that never worry about the jump, are confident in their skills and conduct business with coolness. And this from all levels of actual skills and abilities not just the pros with high jump numbers. I have noticed people that the same jumpers from all walks of life, all kinds of different experience levels and jump numbers get hurt or worse. Murphy doesn't care if you are new here or a skygod. The only person that I really worry about is the person on the DZ that THINKS that they are somehow much safer than someone else based just on canopy or gear choice. This is so wrong! Remember the gear has gotten better. Its the human in the loop you have to watch out for. Really let me take the Wuffo approach and ask you. You are jumping from altitude at painfully high speed and asking a few pounds of nylon and other synthetics to slow you down and together with your judgment and skills bring you to a stylish stop without injuring yourself on the many of the earths decorations. How safe do you really feel? Bottom line weegegirl people will always get hurt in this sport. It is not golf it is not bowling. And even rugby is a sissy sport when you compare it to skydiving.

No flames Leroy but you are thinking and doing too much to your wardrobe. The smoking pants I've seen are cheap, cheap rain gear with cigarette holes burned into the area near the crotch. And some slightly more expensive units made out of stylish "Jogging" pants with holes burned near the crotch. Since I'm too smart to jog anymore and now that I'm a skydiver, run and hide from rain. I will take my collection of stylish "jogging" pants and the raingear out of my locker at work and make some to experiment with even though I know no girl will slap my ass like they do when you wear my Trackpantz. i just hope it doesn't lead to smoking.

Your navigation is off by a few hundred miles kimoswuave. You are going to piss off all of the Arizona peeps, they will not claim that sky. That shot is Perris I can smell that sky anywhere. Its in my lungs.

Thats what toteing another human along while wearing tiny wings does to you fallrate. Now it the other human had tiny wings you may see something different. Has it been done? Yes! has it been filmed? Yes! The pictures and video will be released when the owners stop laughing. Nice shots just tell me you shot a sequence as your pC and main bag where comming off your back.

And this DZ let us all know how much they liked our group being there. I heard some good ideas bounced around for making this regular good time thing with Demos and instruction for people looking to join in on flocks. Spraed'n the love.

Even the guys with teenie tiny mains fly bigger real reserves. Well the ones that I know personaly. They probably fear a blown up reserve more than they fear a two out with tiny main with modest reserve.

This did happen # 1 and #2 in the landing sequence. Very faint winds, both locals, both swooped it in going the opposite direction. Something told me to take it to the big circular student landing area and work on carving as I was #3 and I wasn't the only one to skip the main area as a result. Didn't matter Dan B.C. called the entire load over and said when that is ( confusion of landing direction ) going on for the rest of us to just take it off the landing area.

It could be worse:you could be taking a bunch of little girls to 98 degrees or some other lame "boy- band". I can only hope that mine want to see m manson instead of whatever cheesy lame act is out at that time.

I'm not sure but I think you provide padding for a proper fit, you customize.

Bump------ this is tomorrow! Looks like a nice gathering is developing. Maybe even enough for our own wingsuit only bird plane loads. If I was a bird I'd get my tail feathers there. There will be some GGGGGOOOOODDDDDD flocking going off!

It really doesn't matter. You were willing to kick in an extra ticket to send it..... It got sent. If you think you were taken advantage of I would choose not to throw any extras in next time. Do you ever get a comped jump or fly for free? If your DZ is all about the money ( and BTW most are commercial enterprises and you can't fault that reasoning) then I would conduct my activities in the same manner. If a DZ is more like a homey co-op and comps tickets, sends loads light or doesn't always sweat the details of the mighty dollar then I would be happy to throw in an extra ticket now and then.

Some days I miss my Jeep. Did you sell it cuz of the tranny? Or cuz they are very unpractical?

If you are arching hard already you can for a second bend your legs up at the knees until you come up with the right amount of fall rate. You can also pull your arms in flat to your sides, maybe even enough to put your hands on your ass. If you are constantly tracking in this position find other people to track with.

Nice job, If the downwind speeds are too much don't disregard a crosswind landing if there is space for it. A couple of us were "out" last weekend both of us did a flat turn. I chose a cross wind the other guy took the flat turn very low but all the way into a headwind. He landed it but it looked ugly. When we got back friends and staff asked me if I had done that low turn. Nope I landed crosswind.... that was the end of it for me. He took a ton of grief over his still low and ugly flat turn.

Don't cut a hole for the LCD. Is your view finder in view or do you need to cut it to view? I have neither viewable on my old style D-box.

QuoteThat is too funny... I've gotta get one of those for my dude to run around the house in! Quote Forget the house, think of all the fun you and your man can have on a naked hybrid jump!

No it is I who bows down to you my friend.

Real skygods don't own DVD players. In fact they can't really work that complex remote for the VCR and dare not ask anyone for help either. This lack with people and devices newer than five years old is all covered in the video. Trust me!

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The practical will be tough. Everything will come at him bang-bang-bang. Maneuvers will be quick and cockpit tasks will be thrown at him in quick succession. He needs to be ready. Chime in pilots- was your practical tough as hell? What happened to you? Quote My practical was not tuff, it was straight forward. The guy will figure out during the oral if you know what you are talking about. Then won't have you demonstrate it too long once you prove you can DO what you've already established you KNOW. Mine never messed with anything in the cockpit but it is common that they do. Mine did ask me a bunch of compound questions back to back trying to confuse me.

I've never seen any on DVD. Do they offer any other special features or alternate endings ?

I know Andy, My friends and I where having this discussion on the DZ last weekend. There is a camera epidemic just like there is a canopy downsizing epidemic. There is a start in the right direction for more canopy training infrastructure but we are lagging behind in camera flying training outside of a few clinics here and there. Meanwhile we are seeing more and more jumpers flying cameras. Granted some are slim and simple systems but they still bring dangers with them. Its common for Jumpers with 200 jumps to be camera equipped. Some people have excellent resources in the form of legendary and talented camera flyers for camera flying advice on their DZ or in their clubs to help the fledglings. But others may only have this forum for help. You are not just helping the poster you may help a percentage of silent viewers. While, like it or not, 200 jumps & camera may be common, we can all agree 100 jumps is too few. We can all agree that a ring sight should be added later. Way later! And I know that if the poster had just been shot down in the original thread many more jumpers out there would not have learned all this and at least one person learned the harsh myth that a top mounted camera is not a safer system than a properly mounted side box. I have no doubt that Dave has a ton of camera advice to give, he's got more than me! I can't tell you what the original posters "attitude" is over this medium any more than I can tell what drives Dave. It was posted in a technical forum. Jumpers will be doing searches in that forum years from now looking for an answer to the same question all of them without attitude.