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    the state is only paying about 350 million and it will be repaid in revenues, this is how business works, invest now, make profit later. the state is just entering a business opertunity that should make it a profit. If the vikings leave town it will cost the state millions in tax revenue, jobs, and welfare benifits related to lost jobs. this is just securing the state for future money. since it is on a state level with future financial rewards I think it is good. I am not a chicago fan even though I live in illinois, but I supported the soldier field, and comisky park rebuilds. (though the soldier field rebuild looks like shit).

    I did not change teams as you suggested, this is not scialism., this is an investment into the future of the state. people get government loans all the time to start or build a business, this is no different.



    This is corporate welfare, plain and simple. (so are all those government loans to business). If this was such a great investment for future revenues then there would be no problem getting the team owners or other investors to put up all the money required.



    the state will be using the facility for high school and trade functions, just like the metrodome has been used by the state many many times in the last 30 years. it is a state facility that brings in revenue from all over the country. how much did minnesota make on the superbowl a few years ago? that was just 1 event.

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    The city and state would be using the stadium also. the metradome has been used for several hundred events making the city and state money for 30 years, this would be the same. It is better than loosing the team and its revenue. Look what it cost minn. when they lost the hockey team.



    it's amazing how when socialism turns to sports how people change teams

    the pro-"I want everyone in my state to pay for a stadium whether they want one or not" nuts were in force in the city all this week - it was overwhelming and they were just as demeaning and angry and unreasoning to their opposition as you'd see from any rabid lefty demonstrater



    the state is only paying about 350 million and it will be repaid in revenues, this is how business works, invest now, make profit later. the state is just entering a business opertunity that should make it a profit. If the vikings leave town it will cost the state millions in tax revenue, jobs, and welfare benifits related to lost jobs. this is just securing the state for future money. since it is on a state level with future financial rewards I think it is good. I am not a chicago fan even though I live in illinois, but I supported the soldier field, and comisky park rebuilds. (though the soldier field rebuild looks like shit).

    I did not change teams as you suggested, this is not scialism., this is an investment into the future of the state. people get government loans all the time to start or build a business, this is no different.



    Rather like the feds supporting GM and Chrysler, and then getting paid back while keeping lots of jobs in the USA?

    Or more like the White Sox owners getting rich off Cellular Field, while the taxpayers take a bath?



    no this is on a state level no national and the people of the state can do want they would like with their money. the fed government should not be involved in private enterprise. the state would loose millions if the vikings left, there it is in their best interest to work a deal that favors the tax payers in the long run. they are only fronting a third of the costs and many high school and tade functions will be held there. it is a plus for the state.

    The states have different functions than the fed government and the fed gov has stepped beyond it's boarders.

    as far as comiskypark, if the state was to stupid to put up money without a paybeack from the stadium that is their fault and the people of illinois for electing the shitheads. maybe the state of illinois needs to get rid of the corrupt polititians that we have.

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    The city and state would be using the stadium also. the metradome has been used for several hundred events making the city and state money for 30 years, this would be the same. It is better than loosing the team and its revenue. Look what it cost minn. when they lost the hockey team.



    With the Dodgers selling for 2B, I think we're past the days where a city should be shelling out half the cost on a billion dollar project. Or perhaps they should just get their share when the current owners sell, since a team with a new stadium is worth substantially more.

    The economic benefit of a pro team is a bit less clear cut that you suggest. Much of that money would be spent on other local interests. Oakland definitely took a bath on the Raider move. And little prevents these teams from moving anyhow.



    the lease dictates the moves backed by the owners. And there is a clause if the vikings get sold before the end of the lease, (unless they to it out on the last vote)

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    The city and state would be using the stadium also. the metradome has been used for several hundred events making the city and state money for 30 years, this would be the same. It is better than loosing the team and its revenue. Look what it cost minn. when they lost the hockey team.



    it's amazing how when socialism turns to sports how people change teams

    the pro-"I want everyone in my state to pay for a stadium whether they want one or not" nuts were in force in the city all this week - it was overwhelming and they were just as demeaning and angry and unreasoning to their opposition as you'd see from any rabid lefty demonstrater



    the state is only paying about 350 million and it will be repaid in revenues, this is how business works, invest now, make profit later. the state is just entering a business opertunity that should make it a profit. If the vikings leave town it will cost the state millions in tax revenue, jobs, and welfare benifits related to lost jobs. this is just securing the state for future money. since it is on a state level with future financial rewards I think it is good. I am not a chicago fan even though I live in illinois, but I supported the soldier field, and comisky park rebuilds. (though the soldier field rebuild looks like shit).

    I did not change teams as you suggested, this is not scialism., this is an investment into the future of the state. people get government loans all the time to start or build a business, this is no different.

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    He's desperate for Michigan and Ohio, He's already pissed off the Latino, Women, Gay, and UAW vote, and he has only just begun.

    This is going to be fun:)



    UAW voting Republican? Yeah, *that's* gonna happen.

    More sugar cookies, please!


    The UAW as an organization would never vote for the rep's, they use the corruption and money from the dems to stay in power over the workers.

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    The city and state would be using the stadium also. the metradome has been used for several hundred events making the city and state money for 30 years, this would be the same. It is better than loosing the team and its revenue. Look what it cost minn. when they lost the hockey team.

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    >oil production on federally controlled lands is down 14% because oil
    >companies can not get permits from this administration to drill for oil in
    >those areas.

    Good! Have the companies buy the land they want to use. We have enough government giveaways to the political contributor of the week.



    why not just let them drill where there is the most oil? instead of drilling where there is the least oil?

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    A lifetime pig who straps on some wings is still a pig.



    Sorry but he is closer to your beliefs being a democrat. Maybe we should ban democrats from having guns.



    Or pigs with wings?



    so am I, I might have to change my voter card to dem because the left keeps telling me that the right are the violent ones.

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    A lifetime pig who straps on some wings is still a pig.



    Sorry but he is closer to your beliefs being a democrat. Maybe we should ban democrats from having guns.



    We don't need guns. We have quiche.




    And fake bombs to blow up bridges, but we all know that the left is always non violent and the right is the cause of all violence

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    >Only on private and state lands.

    Right. Which is most of the producing oil fields in the US.

    >Any oil production that Obama has any control of is DOWN 14%

    Which oil companies does Obama "have control of?"



    Ok lets be specific just for you. oil production on federally controlled lands is down 14% because oil companies can not get permits from this administration to drill for oil in those areas.

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    We report. You decide.

    http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2012/05/03/anti-immigrant-neo-nazi-kills-four-himself-in-shooting-rampage/


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    Ready has been characterized by the Southern Poverty Law Center as an "outright Neo-Nazi" advocating deadly force on the border and quoting him as once saying, "I firmly believe in having a minefield across the border."


    When Ready ran for Mesa City Council in 2006, he made headlines that March when he fired a pistol at a Latino man armed with a BB gun, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center. His campaign came to an end, after it came to light that Ready had been discharged from Marine Corps after a court martial.

    Early on, as an aspiring Republican politician, Ready was acquainted with many of the political leaders steeped in Arizona’s anti-illegal immigration movement.


    Russell Pearce, the author of Arizona’s tough immigration law, SB 1070, helped ordain Ready as an Elder in the Mormon Church in 2004, according to the Phoenix New Times, and endorsed Ready’s failed 2006 run for Mesa City Council.

    Pearce disavowed his relationship with Ready, however, shortly after Ready began to publicly appear and speak at Neo-Nazi rallies and activities in 2007.


    By the time Ready launched his bid for Pinal County Sheriff in January, however, the lifetime Republican had switched to the Democratic Party, according to election records cited by news web-site Talking Points Memo.

    Ready told Talking Points Memo he respected the Democratic Party’s Jim Crow history, noting his admiration of Alabama segregationist Gov. George Wallace.




    A pig with wings is still a pig.



    from what I read I think this was a very troubled person that switched parties because he couldn't relate to the reb's as well as he related to the dem's. That would tell me nothing except he was troubled, to you though it was a republican nutcase. but remember he did not shoot anyone while he was a republican, only after aligning himself with the left did he kill someone.

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    Maybe, just maybe if you quoted verifiable information from the source people would not have to ignore you so loudly. Much like rushmc posting opinion pieces from a lobbyist, this site is an opinion blog. One can spend 30 sec on the AWEA site and see this quote was taken out of context. This may come as a shock but..just because its on the Internet doesn't mean its true.



    What part of

    "according to the American Wind Energy Association" and "according to Labor Department statistics" dont you understand? Ever hear of Goggle?



    when you don't have a good defense, you attack the credibility of the source, it is the liberal way.

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    I don't see it discussed much. The timeline appears to be:

    1986-1989 - Iraq attempts genocied against Kurds, including use of chemical weapons (where Chemical Ali got his nickname)

    1991 - UN oversees destruction of chemical weapons in Iraq, but admits they didn't get it all.

    1998 - President Clinton orders airstrikes to destroy chemical weapon stockpiles in Iraq

    2002 - UN and many others are estimating huge stockpiles of chemical weapons in Iraq. Syria lobies on behalf of Iraq to allow Syria to sell Iraq more military equipment as Syria is building chemcial stockpiles itself.

    2003 - Convoys of trucks flee Iraq for Syria prior to the US lead invasion of Iraq. After the invasion, nobody can find the chemical weapons in Iraq.

    Conclusion - There were never any chemical weapons in Iraq.



    The facts that we gave them the weapons, they used them , and they would not let inspectors in seems to be lost on many that bash Bush for the war. they may or may not have had them after we went in is not what is important, that we could not confirm the status of the weapons is.

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    who paid for Obama and the rest to get there? there was alot of our money spent there.



    I believe that most of the attendees had to purchase their own tickets, and probably provide for their own transportation. It's a fundraiser to give out scholarships to journalism students. I doubt that a significant portion of tax money was spent on the event. Though perhaps in the 92 years that it's been going on, a little has been spent...

    I sort of like the idea of taking an evening for the White House to lighten up a bit. I was never a supporter of Bush, but I recall enjoying some of his speeches at the correspondents' dinners.



    my point is that this economy is slowing, the government is spending us to death, and all these elites want to do is eat, drink and party. You are correct that we need to have some light hearted times, but it gets really frustrating watching these idiots suck us dry, have parties and take vacations. I think a little less traveling and golf for the white house and a little more work in drastically cutting spending would be in order at this time.

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    What did we all think of the White House Corespondents' Dinner this year?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfG8Btb0l3g
    I thought it was interesting how President Obama "owned" the silly dog issue rather than attempting to deny it ever happened or anything silly like that. Clearly he doesn't give a crap about the jokes.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcqYFPRyyp8
    Kimmel was okay. Not the best, not the worst. Very middle of the road.



    We the people are broke and they are spending our tax dollars at a record pace on stupid shit like this.

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    While I agree with your sentiment that we're all at fault by way of being complicit, I completely disagree with the video linked that it would be "impossible" to balance the budget.

    Lower what you can, raise taxes to what would balance it.

    Done.

    Just don't be pussies about having to pay your fair share.



    It is the 49% that don't pay their fair share that pisses me off

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    ...There are nearly 1.7 million children under 20 years of age living on farms and ranches in the United
    States. Farm children are often needed and expected to help with chores or handle responsibilities
    at a young age. Due to this fact, and the nature of farming, they are exposed to potentially dangerous
    situations much more frequently than children in towns or cities. Here are some startling statistics
    about child safety on the farm:
    An estimated 300 children die each year in farming accidents
    • Farm children are twice as likely to die from an accident than their urban counterparts
    • An estimated 30,000 children under 20 years of age are injured each year in farming accidents
    • If children who visit or work on non-family farms are added the total is estimated to be close to
    100,000 injuries
    • Nearly 950 farm children suffer some type of permanent disability because of farm accidents annually
    • Approximately 90% of the fatalities and injuries occur to male children
    • Children under the age of 16 comprise 20% of all farm fatalities
    The three primary agents responsible for deaths and injuries to children on the farm are: tractors,
    farm machinery, and livestock. It is important to realize that children on farms may be exposed to
    other situations capable of producing health hazards in the future. Some of these exposures are:
    noise, vibration, pesticides, dangerous gasses, and airborne irritants...



    And many kids are killed every day in the city, maybe we should ban cities.

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    "The wind industry, for example, has shed 10,000 jobs since 2009 ..., according to the American Wind Energy Association. Meanwhile, the oil and gas industry has added 75,000 jobs since Obama took office, according to Labor Department statistics"

    http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2012/04/18/team-obama-stop-chasing-green-jobs-unicorn/

    If the leftys weren’t so self-righteous I would feel bad for them. I am sensing a pattern where they seem to be wrong only on days that end in Y.



    actually they are only wrong on days that end in day

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    start voting for those that work for us and keep their word, not the ones that by our votes and keep building our debt would be a good start.



    In case you haven't noticed, both parties regularly lie, increase the size of government, and build on the debt.

    Despite the seeming hopelessness of it, voting still has some small value in that it gives us a tiny range of choice we can use to vote tactically.



    the problem we have is all those that vote for candidates that promise and deliver on free stuff, the government has been giving so much free stuff that it is broke.