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What UPT calls OSA, sunpath and sunrise calls yoke.
UPT shows both yoke and stabilizers (what done others call laterals) as deviations from standard (STD). Do their measurements would be in +/- inches. Mirage does similar, while Sunrise (Wings) just gives you all the measurements in S/M/L fashion. -
Iago
We have needed a third AAD in the civilian market for quite sometime. Ten years ago you could get a new C1 for under a grand.
We have had the FXC12000 and the Astra around for a bit. And Argus had been around for a few years before it's demise.
You most definitely could not get a new C1 10 years ago. no even for 10K. -
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QuoteAlso, some people will point out that only a rigger or someone under the supervision of a rigger is allowed to hook-up the lines to the risers.
Are you sure this is true? My understanding is that you can do what you want to your own main.
Legally, the only thing that you can do if you're not a rigger or under the supervision of a rigger is pack the main if you're the next person jumping it. AC 105-2D also contains the following text, which is wide open to interpretation and probably will not carry the same weight as the CFRs in a court room:13.fParachutist’s Handling of Equipment. The user of a parachute system may perform simple assembly and disassembly operations necessary for transportation, handling, or storage between periods of use if the parachute's design simplifies such assembly and disassembly without the use of complex operations.
Dude, I really hate to sound like an elitist prick, but you don't have the time (and probably the ratings) to post such things as facts.
The document is still written by lawers, and as such you really, REALLY need to pay attention to the usage of the term "approved parachute components ". Mains are not "approved" - thus that wording does not cover them.
further wording "The following are examples of approved parachutes as defined in § 105.3" solidifies that point.
Please stop digging, we hear enough from MEL :( -
Four line check.
From the risers, grab the outside lines and run them all the way up to the canopy. They should go to the stabilizers without encountering anything in the way. If not, then you have a problem. -
rapazRecomended manufacturer service life.
UPT Vector - doesnt have recomended SL
Javelin - doesnt haverapaz
Aerodyne - 13 years from DOM
Source please ?rapaz
PD reserves - 40 packjobs, 10 openings
Not service life. Mandatory inspection after 40 packjobs or 25 rides.rapaz
Strong DHT 18 years from DOM or indefinied the new ones
Not for the Master reservesrapaz
Other manufacturer examples ?...
Any advice will be apreciate
Advice : CHECK YOUR GOD DAMN FACTS !rapaz
After that if the rig still in very good shape, do you riggers still packing those, in the packing card do you put any "on condition" or similar like porosity and TS108
ParaPhernalia harnesses produced after Sept 2009 - 20 years -
Let's see the original description, your measurements and some pictures of you wearing the rig. All this on a condition that you'll never use the word stabilizer to refer to yoke size. -
SafelandingsI guess if the risers were used for a while they would get softer and might make it easier. I haven't jumped it yet. I hope the whole rig softens up quickly. It stiff as hell. And I'm still practicing packing. Can't get that slippery shit in the bag.
Thanks for your thoughts guys
There is your problem right there. You are trying to pull a slider down a set of risers that's I am betting are not under anywhere near the load they would be if you had 100+lbs of stupid hanging under them. -
I wonder if there's a discount for bulk purchases. Some deals to be had, for sure.
Maybe they can also make us some $3K twin otters. -
best I can do
(and a few vector2 containers, just sto show you how awesomely ugly you can make it)
Bonus : the brown container was the one that Arnold used in the movie Eraser, and yes, it has tandem handles on it -
Could it be the handle's hook velcro causing wear on the webbing when the webbing is pushed onto it when you are sitting down ? -
riggerrobDo we need a master list of gear life?
The last Cypres 1 retires in 2015
Cypres 2, inspection after 4 years and 8 years and retire after 12 yearsriggerrob
National 15 years
HUH ?riggerrob
Para-Phernalia Softies 20 years
only those made after the Sept 2009 manual changeriggerrob
Performance Designs reserves 25 deployments, or 40 pack jobs.
Inspection, NOT retirement.riggerrob
Many Southern California lofts will not repack gear more than 20 or 25 years old because the desert dust wears out gear prematurely.
Correction : No self respecting rigger with conscience should certify gear that's worn. And gear used in the sunny desert climates gets worn a lot heavier than stuff used in say... Canada.. -
Wouldn't this still leave you with a small reserve ? -
I swear to god I thought you were kidding.
Jump it for another year and then buy it a beer and keep jumping. What magic do you think will happen once it becomes 20 years of age ? Not to mention that the fabric is most likely over 20 years old already. -
highspeeddirtManley Butler "invented " the first mini 3 ring system as part of Para Flite's "Swift" harness/ container in 1981 or 82.
Manly also holds the US Patent (5,890,678) for the BAT Sombrero slider. The patent also credits him as the inventor. -
46 jumps, 6'3 220, 245 exit weight buying a rig that holds a 190-210 canopy...
that's a 1.16 or a 1.3 wing loading.
big boys hit hard.
who in their right mind has you on a 210 at your 245lbs exit weight ??? -
sammieluIs there a different general rule? Do you have some constructive advice to add here?
I'm not saying I agree with the general rule, but it is out there.
What's out there is a general MISCONCEPTION, not a rule. And that misconception is very much due to the fact that someone at some point made up some kind of linear depreciation equation, and the sheeple followed.
Now, as far as being constructive :
a) Good deal is a state of mind. First and very much foremost, if you need money today, you will need to sell for less. If you want that hard to find Crossfire2 today, you will end up having to pay more. Hell, there's a dude in the classifieds trying to sell a Petra for $6000 USD.
b) Age - this is a very highly debated topic, that some people (again) make a mistake of thinking linearly about it. A 2003 Dolphin is not more modern or better than a 2000 Javelin. The Dolphin is newer in terms of date of manufacture, but that's where it's "newness" stops. Unless someone is over 60, it's much more likely they will pick a mid 90's Javelin than a late 90's Racer. So the proper criteria should be about being modern, rather than having been manufactured more recently. \
The other part to age, is exactly what Ken had pointed above - nylon has an extremely long shelf life. Stored and cared for properly it doesn't loose any significant strength. So again, a 2001 MicroRaven150-M with 30 repacks and 5 rides is definitely newer than a 1996 PD 143 reserve with 10 repacks and no rides, but the most people will have higher confidence in the PDR.
c) Lastly, the whole linear thing - just like cars, anything mass produced will depreciate at a lot faster rate when new, and the price will change very little as the item gets older. A 1983 X210 canopy will be worth $100 from now until the end of time.
I got many more thoughts on this subject, but I think this is a good start. -
sammieluThe general rule for determining $ value is to deduct $1 per jump and $100 per year, so consider that before you pay for an inspection.
Jumpsuit & altimeter I would post ads with pics and ask for offers.
OMFG, again ???
According to your "general rule", he will be PAYING YOU to take his gear. -
katzasOK--so am I dense or am I missing the Cypres comparison? Be kind.
Why can't it be both ? -
voidlizard
Well, nobody cares, but anyway.
It fits. But it's really tight. I've broken a powertool when packed it first time.
I don't think the lack of responses necessarily means that no one cares. I do think for a posed question "Will a 135 all-ZP 7 cell fit into a container that's meant for a 120", the answer (as you found out through experimentation) is a pretty easy "it may fit, but will be super tight". This is like re-inventing the wheel. -
mcordell******that's my issue with the cypres. It has the lowest service life of any of the modern AADs with mandatory service every 4 years. Not only is it the most expensive AAD on the market but when you add in the service costs to the incredible purchase price it is significantly more expensive when broken down on a per year cost. I'm fine with either the M2 or the Vigil but I don't like the fact the vigil battery is not field replaceable. I suppose one service after 10 years isn't a big deal but the purchase price of the M2 is rather attractive.
by your logic the McLaren F1 is a piece of shit car that no one will ever want to buy
Thanks for your input. I'll take that into consideration if I'm ever in the market for a supercar. Can the owner not change the tire on one of those when it gets worn out?
That being said, my question pertained to two specific models of AAD. I didn't ask about the cypres or the McLaren F1 but your opinion has been duly noted in my logbook.
You related a high purchase price of something to it being undesirable. A very general statement that doesn't always prove true in real world. It's not uncommon to pay more for quality.
Why are Flight Concepts canopies cheaper than PD, but PD still has a very large chunk of the market ?
And no, the owner most likely cannot change a tire on the F1 if it gets worn out. It's upwards of $6K service, as both sides need to be changed. Link http://www.roadandtrack.com/go/car-culture/it-is-impossible-to-total-a-mclaren-f1
My point (which is obviously very lost) is that Cypres2 being expensive could be an indicator of quality/support rather than of just being overpriced.
At the end - M2, Cypres, Vigil AADs are approved in most containers and at probably all US Dropzones - so one is welcome to make their own choice.
When Argus was gaining steam it was priced super awesome and lots of people had your mentality of "it's priced attractively". Those are the same people who are now out ~~ $1K -
mcordellthat's my issue with the cypres. It has the lowest service life of any of the modern AADs with mandatory service every 4 years. Not only is it the most expensive AAD on the market but when you add in the service costs to the incredible purchase price it is significantly more expensive when broken down on a per year cost. I'm fine with either the M2 or the Vigil but I don't like the fact the vigil battery is not field replaceable. I suppose one service after 10 years isn't a big deal but the purchase price of the M2 is rather attractive.
by your logic the McLaren F1 is a piece of shit car that no one will ever want to buy -
skydiverekThe slower opening, the better for me
Because slowing the trying with a different size/profile slider is completely out of the question, right ?
Please let us know which instrument you use to measure the "7 seconds" and what you consider your starting and end point. -
skezDepends on what it is...for example u would think paracommanders from the 60s have gold in them for some of the prices ppl want for them....I was going to buy one thinking id get one for next to nothing...and no way am I paying anywhere $500 for a 50 year old roundy lol
well, some people appreciate them more than others. Some are just rare.
I paid a grand for a Jumbo PC, and I thought that was a fair price.
and I know a few people (myself included) who would shell out some serious money for a Barrish Sailwing.
A 24ft Phantom though.... Well, that's not really an exciting canopy. -
a bit more description and pictures would help.
Everything has value. Unfortunately some things are only useful as car covers...
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