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Thanks for taking the time to post the video and description. I'm sure there are many sensible readers who are able to learn something from your experience. things are not as they appear, nor are they otherwise

I recently had a flat spin while jumping a large suit. To see it in action you can have a look at the video. I had experienced a similar spin on a small suit way back - I think that helped. My recovery went something like this: once I realised what was happening, I closed my arm wings and leg-wing and balled up slightly; this resulted in a more stable spin mostly on my back and increased downward speed; to transition to a head-down dive I straightened my body and "leaned back" choosing the ground as my heading; this resulted in a steep dive; once the dive had begun I slowly opened the wings and transitioned from diving/falling to flying; the slow transition allowed me to use the wingsuit to stop the spin by "turning out of it". It took me about 8 seconds to complete this process. Some comments about how I dealt with it: - it was caused by a slight off-heading exit - at first I tried what I would have done in a smaller suit: just transitioning to a barrel roll and continue flying - this did not work because there is just too much material to deal with - it took me about 1/2 seconds to accept what was happening - having previous experience with the same situation in a small suit helped me: I had a clear strategy to execute - it was easy to close the wings since they were not properly inflated (the flipping and spinning actually helps to that extent) - deflating the wings and balling up increased my stability by stopping the flipping - after making the transition to the head-down dive I started to use the suit itself to regain full stability - in other words I ended the spin by flying out of it - and last but not at all least: I was current Hope you find the video, description and comments useful :) things are not as they appear, nor are they otherwise

climbed above a herc c130 the other day - awesome feeling to look down on the plane. anyway, i felt that keeping my legs only slightly bent and shut until the relative wind hit my arms helped to maintain the head-up angle... then just hold out on the arms and open the leg... and voila things are not as they appear, nor are they otherwise

Leon and Ruan from CT things are not as they appear, nor are they otherwise

Yeah, so I have only a few flights, and I just can't seem to get into a flatspin, no matter how wild my exit is (us poor Africans flocking out of Cessna's, wildly diving out after each other). I find it very hard not to just move with the initial barrelroll or spin, pick a heading (maybe the plane) and just fly out of it. What gives? I think balling up is the worst advice possible. Maybe close and straighten legs and open the arms so one can use them to counter the momentum. Although specifyng how to get out of a flatspin is rather like working out how to get up from the ground after falling - i.e. there are many ways to skin a cat. It's way easier to discuss what not to do, like...nothing...or ball up...or go to sleep. just some thoughts. things are not as they appear, nor are they otherwise