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thanks guys

I would think ideally this is definately true. I have a xfire 2 109 and a Katana 120 I borrowed dives harder for certain. I also have a similar sized sabre2 and it is milder again than the xfire2. Katanas are ground hungry very high perfornance canopies and as you have said, should only be progressed to when adequate experience is possessed

So, was there any cumulonimbus clouds? Thanks. Thats a good point actually, I was crossing the border of the PLA which meant I was over the border of a ploughed field and had just crossed over to the edge of the main grass PLA..not sure if the field could have affected things. The sun was present but as mentioned it was a cold day and was hailing on this canopy ride. (it wasnt hailing when we went up and there was addequate visibility *broken clouds*) the hail was present during the jump (on opening pretty much) and my goggles iced over going through some solid cloud so there is a fair chance they were not your average clouds... but I didnt stop around to study what type they were. Only BIG and SCARY looking! we clearly got caught out by the weather, but that has happened before (not very often thankfully) and I never had something like this happen.

ok, so I have a pilot 150 (WL 1.45) in a second rig for some camera jumps. A week or so ago I saw the reaper/heli-med much too near for my liking. I was under canopy, reasonable uppers but nothing OTT. Entered the pattern, got down to about 400 feet where I turned to final - straight in approach, nothing funky. Weather was cold, and it had been hailing earlier that day. I could feel some gusting on approach, but at about 250 feet the canopy suddenly ran into what seemed like a brick wall, like at the end of the flare when it uses up all its energy and lift. It then stalled, dove forward, and hard, to the right. I could feel a gust blowing me sideways, like the god of wind was trying to blow out a match! I could see titanium club at best for a worrying few seconds and thank god I managed to get the wing inflated and level again by about 40-50 feet max ... i took a semi downwinder as there was no other option left and I was freaked out by the events. So. Summary, has anyone else had this? I know a gust CAN stall a canopy, but this canopy has done the same thing during windy (not gusty) conditions once before (a hard unplanned dive to the right) but it was nothing like as scary as this latest incident and was higher up. I know, jumping in adverse conditions is best avoided, but on both occasions, the winds were steady (in limits) when the plane took off. Just wanting some feedback from other pilots on what could have caused it and is there a better way to prevent it or deal with it. Further info: The landing area was completely open and not near any buildings or trees for well over 800 metres all directions thanks

Awesome!!! Your a legend for getting back in the air so soon Keep the pics coming

Well I dont know anyone older but I would say RESPECT to your dad for this accomplishment

This manual posted on here by Rod Mack iirc(page 4 of the threads in this forum iirc) may offer some insight into the solutions needed http://www.jagworksdesign.com/html/Para%20Manul%20opening%20page.htm and http://www.jagworksdesign.com/html/Para%20skydive%20manual.htm hth

Jumps: 86 Main: Pilot 150 ft² (1.47 lbs/ft²) Awfully high wing loading for 86 jumps that is not current or jumping regularly. You are setting your self up to get hurt. Jeeeesus WHo would let him jump this loading with 80 jumps? OP// You are without doubt on target for a crash course in 'tough learning'

I would say get a one piece myself. Have had a couple of two piece ones and they are not as good IME

This is getting confusing. and is not really on topic of this incident.... maybe better discussed in the general forum... But as far as I understand it, your ground speed increases when going downwind in higher winds, because relative to the ground, you have increased your rate of speed across it. however your air speed, has not increased, you are still flying at the same speed thorought the airflow. I think I have not seen this myth repeated in a while and thought perhaps it had been dispelled. The airspeed of your canopy does not change, no matter what the ground winds are doing. The wind doesn't "hit the top of your canopy" because your canopy is not attached to the ground. It's attached to you, and the whole system (you + canopy) are moving with the air, relative to the ground. Imagine a normal, no wind day, and you are coming it to land. At 500 ft the ground turns into a massive conveyor belt moving at 20mph. Everybody standing on the ground is now moving in the direction of the conveyor belt and feeling 20mph wind in their face. None of that will have any effect on how fast your canopy flies, but it will affect how fast you have to run when you land. Same with high (steady) winds. The ground and air can be moving relative to each other at any speed possible... but your canopy still moves through the air exactly the same. So why does your ground speed increase when you turn downwind? Could it be that the canopy is being pushed from the behind from a faster flowing air flow then your normal canopy airspeed? Could this not possibly push the azz end of your canopy putting it more in of a downward angle? You are making it sound like high winds have no affect what so ever on your canopy.

So, how did it go?? We need some updates here! Great work so far pookie!

Whats thsi music pedagogy then ??? Sounds fascinating!

I think they did a great job! stop whining!!

rofl

255 I call total BS on a lot of the scores being posted here. Either that or your all Einstein like. Which your not.

Just move apartments if your that scared... muppet

I agree, certainly a Sabre2... Even if the wing loading is only 0.8 (and I dont recall they have posted their weight..) they still have a more aggressive trim than say a comparable 190. A 7 cell 170 would be perfect for the OP. and if its so windy they cant make forward groundspeed then dont jump in it!

a bit harsh to say a Triathlon does everything poorly?? misinformed even...! Ive jumped a Tri 170 and 150 in the past and found them to be a nice canopy. Ok, they are never going to b Hp, but thats not their aim.. Great for demos, very stable in turbulent conditions, and super nice openings every time!! Sabre 2 and Pilot I agree are similar with Sabre 2 having a more powerful flare and less nice openings (IME) and the Pilot having a deeper weaker flare and lovely but slow openings.

does it log fulll altitude jumps normally even when in slow mode?

Snorkel? Being serious, I would say it is psycho sematic. You expected to have the same problem with your head out of the car window, and you did. Relax. dont overthink things. You can and will breathe!

You really need to speak to your local DZOs but I know my DZ would likely jump this person. However if he cant raise his legs up (for landing purposes) then the weather conditions would need to be just right before they would take him up (eg/not a no wind day, enough wind to negate most of the tandems forward speed) so he didnt get his leg re broken...

Surely it is riskier for a tandem to exit at 5k than an AFF student? Also isn't it riskier for a tandem to have an off landing than a student? Not really...? by definition a tandem will have a tandem instructor flying the canopy, who 'should' have the skills to safely land the canopy off the DZ, including scoping out the new LZ from the air and calculating the safest place

It might be a good fit but jumping with a WL of 1.47 at 300 jumps if your profile is correct wont be.....

This is a question for your instructors Shah..!! but on student canopies, 10-15 feet from the ground is when most AFF courses teach you to flare (when your feet are 10-15 feet from the ground) This height perception comes with time and jumps, and I struggled with it for the first 10 jumps or so, including several bad landings on AFF. The trick is to flare higher rather than lower, ALWAYS hold the flare and never let it up once you start it, and be prepared to PLF at all times. This means practising PLFs, which not all AFF courses teach (mine didnt) Also, you could find something 10 or 15 feet high that overlooks grass and stand on it to get a feel for what that sort of height looks like.,. NOte.. I am NOT an instructor so check anything with your instructors before applying it

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe there has only been 1 skydiving death ever contributed to a skysurf board. It was a jumper with ~750 jumps making their 1st skysurf jump on a beginner board. Deployed their pilot chute between there legs and the board. This person took the board from manifest, without permission, no skysurf training what so ever and made the biggest mistake you can make on a beginner board. Had he at least watched the 30 minute training video (there is a 10 minute section specifically addressing the malfunction he ended up having) he would be with us today. I dont have numbers but theres more than 1 for certain.....