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If you know this much about the incident, Jo, how come you don't know the names of the guys? Maybe you should call the guys who told you about the ATCs from Atlanta and ask them for the names of the individuals with the Big Clues. Whaddaya say, eh? The man who told me - can you call the dead? Also it was written someplace about the ATC's and I spoke with a man out of Portland yrs and yrs ago who was aware of this...but spoke off the record. A fact the FBI did NOT want known. Himmelsbach also mentioned it but his recall has gotten clouded as has all of us in our 70's, 80's and 90's. Surely in all the media burst in 1971 and in 1980 this has been mentioned. The fact that the ATC's were having a problem at that time... Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Evidently Bruce didn't even grasp the importance of the mission I was sending him on. Check with ATC and find out what was going on in 1971 around NOVEMBER. Seattle was using ATC/s from out of the area. The were in a transition stage of replacing equipment & learning how to use it...they borrowed ATC's from Atlanta who had the knowledge. There was 2 guys in Seattle on loan from Atlanta during the time frame of the skyjacking. CAN anyone find out the name of those two ATC's they used before and after and during the crime... Someone else had claimed they had loaners because of a strike (was news to me) - but none of this seemed to be the case. Find the name of the guys who worked with the ATC and the replacement of the system - and you have REAL clues. Find the names of the guy sthere from Atlanta and you might solve the case. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Robert 99 your taking segments from multiple postings over a long period to retailate with one inflammatory posting is absurd. Have said something recently that disturbed you? You seem to have a problem & when you realized I do have certain information - then you go into an attack mode. You take little things posted over a 2 or 3 yr period completely out of context. Perhap you need to take some time & actually review the postings & why you react the way you do. You are the one calling attention to yourself. I mention the Air Traffic Controllers & other things & you go berserk....did I get a little too close for comfort? Maybe you are tilting the bottle just a little too much lately. You have gotten a lot of your facts about the crime scrambled? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

That is a horrible photo shopped pic...looks nothing like KC. Where is the original pic without the photo shop. Who sent you the photo? Was it photo shopped when you received it? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

What was well-orchestrated? What do you think happened? Since I do not understand it myself - perhaps you should find an air Traffic controller who worked with the old system & the one that Seattle was in the process of doing conversions. I am sure there must be an airtraffic controller still alive that worked about that time... So you have an assignment - find an airtraffic controller who worked at Seattle during the conversion process...it was going on in 1971. see you pm. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

You are the one who needs a shrink to help you be objective. You take everything out of context . A lof of parnoid things going on inside to the heads of certain guys. I stated: Bruce had opportunity & motive. He had been very VERBAL about Cossey in the thread & then went silent! You guys accuse me of worse all of the time, but I was not accusing just stating things actually transpiring in the thread. I never accused Georger of being involved in JFK....perhaps you are the one who needs to go back & READ those posting...I told about a man by his name who worked for the same company & a man who lived in his area who held the records from a specific time period for a company out of TX - but why did the records leave TX? I told about Duane & the Guys stopping while on a hunting trip to Cour de lane & the observatory. The equipment they had with them was top of the line - it was a puzzle. The man's name was the same as Georger's real name. JUST Odd, but it really happened. He got all hot just like you do without actuallly trying to understand what I am trying to say. Some people squirm when truths start to reveal themselves - so that makes the things I tell suspect...I just told what I had been told....and what I learn on the thread and from my experience and life with Duane Weber. If there was NO truth to it - why get upset? I didn't make an issue out of it - you did! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

First I am trying to explain something that I do not understand and you do not help because you are so bull headed. JUST do what I asked you to do and / or someone else do this. Find out who was on loan to Seattle on Nov 24, 1971 in air traffic control....the answer to ALL of this is in the answer to that question... I did not understand the detail but I do know enough to know that what I am TRYING to say is the truth. It had something to do with the transmissions not being recorded. They may have used the item inside of the plane to get those minutes, but there was a communication quiche - for about 5 to 10 minutes. This quiche came from the control tower in Seattle. Why do you think some of the records have been kept so secret? It was nothing the airlines had anything to do - this was a well orchestrated thing. The machine in the plane worked and probably how they created the transcripts. but the radar could not read their position for maybe 5 minutes....this is when it happened. That would have been when they came near the VOR - but they were East of the VOR. YOU find the transcripts and the tower reading - I dare you! They are not intact. I am probably the only living person who knew about this quiche besides the airlines, the crew and the fbi and tower control. I do not really understand what I am trying to tell - but it was briefly explained to me but I didn't know it was connected to the skyjacking....remember Duane always talked in third person and never used the real name of individuals...but this conversation took place after the reels (2 of them) were retrieved. I thought they were the reels in the plane, but I suppose not... It is difficult to explain something told to you in a conversation you did not grasp in the first place and still do not understand. Have a NICE DAY - BULL! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

NOT REDACTED - THEY ACTUALLY DID NOT HAVE THEM! - SO HOW WOULD JO KNOW THAT? HOW DOES JO KNOW THESE LITTLE THINGS? WHY DOESN'T THE FBI CHECK ABOUT THE AIRTRAFFIC CONTROLLERS ON LOAN TO SEATTLE AT THAT TIME? I WILL TELL YOU WHY! BECAUSE THE GUYS PULLED THIS OFF LIKE THE PEEL OF A BANANA...EASY DOES IT! THESE GUYS WERE JUST WAITING FOR THE RIGHT TIME....AND THE ACTUALLY DID IT...HOW MANY THEY WERE I DO NOT KNOW....BUT MORE THAN ONE. THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN BAMBOOZLED OVER THIS LONG ENOUGH & ONE CRAZY WOMAN WITH ENOUGH MEMORY OF EVENTS KNEW TOO MUCH...SHE JUST DID NOT KNOW WHAT SHE HAD. Find the names of the Air Traffic Controller on loan the WA in 1971 just for a few short wks and this crime is SOLVED! I am shouting now - I am tired of this fight and it is time to go public, but I am just one pathetic old woman they think they can play with until I die. Well, it looks like they are winning, but someone really listen and find those records about the assignage of those Air Traffic Controllers and this case is solve. The back ground of one of the controllers connect to Duane L. Weber aka John C. Collins...this person may only have known Duane as Johnny or John or Dusty. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Robert are you the one who picked up those last transcripts copies...the FBI did not REDACT them? They simply didn't have them.....there was a qliche and they did not get all of it. What they had is when Portland stepped in - someone there was trying to record OR make transcripts of the communications but, I do not know how....those communication went POOF a few yrs ago....after the FBI learned they existed. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Jo, the quote above describes your post correctly. You have not produced a single piece of information that supports your claims about Duane Weber in your alleged 17 years of investigating his past. Didn't you and Duane get interested in the Cooper hijacking while you were living in Virginia Beach, VA and long before his death and your allegations that Duane told you he was Cooper? Robert99 ROBERT CONTINUE TO ATTACK ME IN THAT MODE & U WILL PAY FOR IT. I HAVE TOLD THE TRUTH. THE TRIP IN 1979, THE HAPPENINGS IN 1980 AFTER IT HIT THE NEWS, THE THINGS HE TOLD ME IN 1979 & THE THINGS HE TOLD ME OVER THE YRS. NOT ONE WORD OF IT IS A LIE OR CONTRIVED. IT IS NOT ALLEGATION BUT ACTUAL CONVERSATIONS & ACTUAL EVENTS. THE LITTLE THING IN VA BCH 1983 - I HAVE EXPLAINED - SIMPLE THAT HE WAS SHOWING ME HOW TO FIND THE SHOPPING CENTER & THE GROCERY STORE & WE PASSED THE PLACE WHAT'S HIS FACE WAS KILLED AT...IT WAS JUST SOMETHING IN PASSING - just history that took place in the area. THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT COULD HAVE BEEN REMOTELY RELATED WAS BEFORE WE LEFT VAWHEN HE CAME HOME CRAWLING DRUNK...SAYING "I am responsible for someone getting killed". He was rambling about someone getting killed & being a copy cat...I did not have a clue what he was referencing. I went out to look at the vehicle to see if he had hit someone or had a wreck. He was the drunkest I have ever seen HIM in all of our marriage.... ONLY 2 INCIDENTS DID I EVER SEE HIM THAT DRUNK. THAT NIGHT IN VA AROUND 1983 & IN CO. THE NIGHT WE WENT OUT - WITH A COUPLE & I WANTED TO BE HOME TO WATCHING UNSOLVED MYSTERIES ABOUT THE SKYJACK....I HAD TOLD THE WOMAN I WAS SORRY FOR BEING POOR COMPANY AND THAT WE NEVER WENT OUT ON A WK - DAY AND THERE WAS A PROGRAM I WANTED TO SEE. DUANE GOT VERY VERY DRUNK THAT NIGHT....TOO DRUNK! If YOU KNEW ME U WOULD KNOW THAT I AM INCAPABLE OF TELLING A DIRECT LIE....I ALWAYS GOT CAUGHT. WHITE LIES TO SPARE SOMEONES FEELING, BUT NOT ACTUAL LIES. I JUST CANNOT DO IT. I HAVE BEEN BEEN MISINTERPRETED WHEN I WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN THINGS - BUT THERE WERE NO LIES INVOLVED. I GOT SEQUENCES IN THE WRONG ORDER. TRY TO REMEMBER DETAILS FOR 18 YR AND BEFORE THAT - IT MIGHT COME OUT A LITTLE DIFFERENT ONCE IN AWHILE.... I AM ALMOST 75 - SO I DO CONFUSE THINGS ONCE IN A WHILE...BUT I DO NOT LIE AND I AM TRIED OF YOUR ACCUSATIONS.. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

BULLSHIT. WHERE YOU THERE IN 2001. I WAS AND THE MOVIE CREW AND MR.HIMMELSBACH....DO YOU THINK THEY STAGED THAT? NO THEY DID NOT STAGE THAT FOR MY BENEFIT....IT WAS REAL AND IT HAPPENED AND I WAS THERE. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY...MAYBE IT IS UNDERWATER NOW BUT IT WAS NOT UNDERWATER IN 2001 OR IN 1979. YOU WILL HAVE TO PROVE THIS MR KNOWITALL. IT HAS BEEN 15 YRS AND THAT SITE WAS STILL ABOVE WHAT AND THE FENCE WAS STILL THERE AND 2 OF THE TREES WERE STILL THERE JUST AS THEY WERE IN THE PICTURES. JUST WHAT KIND OF FANTASY ARE YOU TRYING TO CREATE....????? PERHAPS YOU NEED TO TALK TO THE OLD TIMER WHO WHERE THERE....IN 2001 AND ONE OF THEM WAS ONLY 18 YRS OLD IN 2001...HE KNOWS AND HE HAS BEEN BACK. HE WAS BORN AND RAISED THERE AND HE HAS BEEN ON THIS THREAD BUT I WILL NOT ID HIM. YOU ARE LIEING AND YOU KNOW IT. WHY? REMEMBER IN 2001 I WAS THERE AND THE SITE WAS THERE. A FENCE WAS JUST BEHIND THE TREES. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE LAST 15 YRS BUT I KNOW WHAT WAS THERE IN 2001.... IF I HAD THE MONEY AND MY HEALTH WOULD PERMIT IT I WOULD BE ON A PLANE. I HATE TO CONTACT MR. H BECAUSE OF HIS HEALTH, BUT I WILL BE CALLING HIM TO SEE HOW HE IS DOING. I WILL BE CALLING ANOTHER MAN WHO STILL LIVE THERE AND SEE WHAT HE HAS TO SAY...MAYBE HE KNOW SOMEONE WHO HAS THE ACTUAL PIC.... WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS - I HAVE TO ASSUME YOU ARE CONNECTED TO THE NAYSAYERS - THOSE WHOSE ONLY OBJECTIVE IS TO COVER UP THE TRUTHS. PROVE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING WITH DATED PICTURES.... PROVE THE SITE WAS UNDER WATER IN 2001....PROVE IT OR JUST BE GONE FOR THE STORY TELLER YOU ARE. REMEMBER I AM TYPING IN CAP BECAUSE THAT IS THE ONLY WAY I CAN AT THIS TIME - IT IS NOT A PROJECTION OF ANGER. I AM VERY LIMITED ON HAND MOVEMENT AND I FOUND OUT THE CAPS KEEP ME FROM HAVING TO MAKE THE MOVEMENT THAT IS SO PAINFUL. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

ROBERT99 YOU STATED: "Pictures taken of the FBI agents digging at Tina Bar show that they were well away from the water line and about 5 feet, at least, vertically above the water level. This means that the money was found at an elevation that was probably at least 9 feet above sea level. Also, the money was probably slightly underwater when it arrived at that location. ------------------------------------- JO REPLIES: DUH! READ WHAT YOU WROTE: "THE MONEY WAS PROBABLY SLIGHTLY UNDERWATER WHEN IT ARRIVED AT THAT LOCATION," IF IT WAS UNDER WATER HOW DID IT GET JUST BELOW THE TREE LINE....THE WATER WAS SEVERAL FEET FROM THE TREE LINE AND THE FOLIAGE OF THE TREE! JUST BELOW THE TREE LINE WAS NOT UNDERWATER. YOU ARE GOING BY A PICTURE WHICH IS DECEPTIVE. YOU HAVE NOTHING TO BASE YOUR STATEMENT ON. THEY WERE DIGGING ABOUT 28 FT FROM THE WATER LINE...UNLESS THE WATER WAS MUCH HIGHER THAN IT WAS IN MAY OF 2001. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

BRUCE, WHY DO YOU ASK SUCH STUPID QUESTIONS. IN 1979 I DIDN'T KNOW ANY THING ABOUT THE MONEY & I WAS INSTRUCTED TO STAY IN THE CAR. JUST WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING OR OTHER WISE INDULGING IN TO ASK SUCH A STUPID QUESTION? WHY YOUR WRITINGS ARE SO OUTLANDISH - NOT ONE TIME HAVE I EVER INDICATED I HAD KNOWLEDGE OF THE MONEY IN 1979. FOLKS I HAVE FIGURED OUT WITH DOING ALL CAPS IT IS EASIER FOR ME TO TYPE. BUT, I AM GOING TO LOOSE THE USE OF MY HAND FOR A LONG TIME TO COME, SO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY ASK ME NOW. MY POSTING WILL BE SHORT SO IT DOESN'T GET TO BE TOO MUCH. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

YOU NEED TO RETHINK ALL OF THAT. THE MONEY WAS JUST OUTSIDE OF THE TREE FOLIAGE. THIS WAS DISCUSSION BETWEEN FAZIO & HIMMELSBACH IN MY PRESENCE IN 2001. THE CREW WAS EAST OF US FILMING THE AREA. THE 3 OF US WHERE TOGETHER. FAZIO MENTION THE SIZE OF THE TREES..."IF IT HAD BEEN IN 2001 THE MONEY FIND WOULD HAVE BEEN UNDER THE FOLIAGE OF THE TREES...BUT NOT IN 1979 OR IN 1980". THE QUOTE IS NOT HIS EXACT WORDING BUT THE CONTEXT OF WHAT WAS SAID. I WAS STANDING WHERE THE MONEY WAS FOUND. I REMEMBERED ALL OF THIS & ONLY FAZIO & HIMMELSBACH & I WERE PRESENT AT THAT MOMENT. WE HAD LINGERED BEHIND THE CREW WHILE THEY MOVED FORWARD TO THE EAST WITH THEIR EQUIPMENT. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

EXCELLENT INFORMATION: DUANE AND I WERE IN SEATTLE - THE END OF SEPT OR BEGINNING OF OCT....FOR A CONVENTION WITH FAMILY LIFE INSURANCE. THE MAIN GUY AT THE COMPANY WAS MAX AND HE WAS STILL TAKING THE FERRY OVER TO THE MAIN LAND THEREFORE IF THERE WAS NOT FLOODING IN THE VANCOUVER AREA FROM SEPT OF 1979 TO FEB OF 1980 THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY THAT MONEY GOT ON TINA'S BAR. IT WAS PLACED THERE BY DUANE L. WEBER BEFORE WE LEFT THE STATE OF WA IN THAT TIME FRAME OF SEPT/OCT 1979! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

My daughters appearance & Tina's are so damn similar it is spooky. Even her recent pictures - those 2 could have been sisters. I have alway felt Tina held back on her knowledge of Cooper. Her words to me "Cooper was a very SAD man"....therefore Cooper had to have said something that indicated he was SAD. I will always believe that Tina & Cooper exchanged information never made public or revealed by Tina. Tina even in her fear reached out to Cooper & he never ever forgot it nor did he forget her face & features. They were imbedded in his mind, because if he died the last face he would ever see was the that of Tina. Duane found that image of his angel in my daughter. She looked like Tina. Duane and I moved to CO from GA with my daughter in MID term - he was the best of fathers - the greatest. My daughter will be burying her real father this week-end but, she will never have the memories of him that Duane and she built. Tina is much older than my daughter, but the appearance even as they aged - they could have been sisters. My guts tells me I am right...my heart tells me Tina and Duane connected on that night of Nov 1971 & that she alone changed one man's life forever. Something changed this multi time criminal in to a hardworking honest businessman...& it was not just age or illness. It was a deeper drive - much deeper. A drive to keep a promise. Now that I think about it - my daughter melted his heart - he would look at her and see Tina - the girl he terrorized for 3 plus hours.......................he spent the rest of his life trying to do the right thing. When he looked at my daughter he was seeing Tina. Yes I agree - I think Duane did attempt to contact Tina & it was at the time the FBI realized Cooper was alive so Tina goes into a convent....but, I cannot find a window of time Duane could have done that on our trip. Tina's residency in Gresham - which Bruce Claims I do NOT believe. She may have had a few problems after the divorce trying to find herself, but that is all. It was my understanding she WORKED there. She did NOT live within the confines of the facility! Now maybe Brucie can explain that. Maybe hearing that Tina had been emotionally affected Cooper wanted to let her know he survived, but I do not think he would have risked contacting her and he certainly did not have a window of time to do so in 1979 on that trip. He went missing for a period of time from The Dalles but we were on our way to Seattle so why would he do that. He was soiled after his little trip that morning - he told me he had gone to see a woman whose husband had died and she wanted him to move some things in the shed and there was some rotten wood....and things had gotten wet. That is all he told me. Where ever he went he was able to go and come within a 4 to 5 hour period of time. He went to see a woman but it was not Tina. I believe it was the widow of Ford whose name was Mildred. He had owned the Air Park Sevice before he died after the skyjacking. He was investigated in the incident, but he had an alibi. I do know Mildred Ford's husband died and I believe he went to see her. I would love to know where she was living in 1979 & to see a picture of her. I believe she was the other Mildred I knew in Fla whose next husband was also with AWARE. She and Duane became pretty tight up until he died. Duane pointed out a tower behind the Air Park and told me he at one time attached something to that tower. Was that tower there in 1971. It was there in 1979. Then I find out yrs later that the Mildred I met was at one time married to Mr. Ford. Too many co-incidences. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I am no expert and you know that. I definitely was in WA in 1979. A company called Family Life Insurance had its home office located there & Duane Weber worked & retired from that company although the service was broken. Since I do not read much of what is being said on that thread - I had no idea they were finally entertaining the idea that the money had been planted in 1979. I also do not always go back & read anything other than a couple of post back in this one. I no longer have the time & stamina to do so. What I know is what Duane told me & showed me - & conversations that took place in my presence. Duane did talk about the area - it was like he was home. Most of what I know is from what he told me and what I witnessed in 1979. He talked about the Dams & the construction of the dams - he referred to "We" or "the Guys" and a relative who worked on the Dams. He explained all of the towers & damn how they worked. Duane's knowlege of the area I didn't understand, but just did not question it. I knew nothing about his past or his family. We stopped at a museum along the river near one of the Dams - I could not remember what he said at this point. When I went out there in 2000 I went to that museum & it brought back the memories of what he said. The woman tried to help me find certain books - but, I didn't know what I was looking for. Evidently Duane's pic was somewhere in that museum or in a book - but, I never found it...I didn't have enough money to stay to continue to search & I had no idea what part of his life he spent there or what he looked like at that time in his life. Duane had an extensive history in WA & I have found little of it I can document...knowing where a shoe store was in a little town for example. Knowing his way around without one time looking at a map. All of the things he told me about the Boys & the Guys & what they did. His knowledge was specific but, someone has tried to erase his footprints - but they are still there. The are imbedded in my mind & I would give anything in the world to have all of the answers about that past. I could care less if they proved or disproved he was Cooper - just to know more about this amazing man I was married to. Dirty Rotten Criminal as Mr. H always calls him. What has made it amazing is the transition he made during his life - it took a lot of discipline to not talk about his life & the prisons - but, who can gage the force of Love. Looking back - this is a LOVE story as much as it is a search for the truth. Two unlikely individuals & one with a secret life. How or why we ended up to gether - I will never understand... I sometimes feel like I was his shield, but what happened is that he actually ended up in a solid relationship. Remember when he met me he was very interested in my maiden name. My grandfather's name was the same as his alias ....John Collins. I would not know this until after his death - when the man who bought the van brought the other wallet & ID's to me...in 1995. Duane explained in detail how the Dams worked & how the power was generated - and referred to 'The Guys" and "The Boys" - he used the terms interchange-ably. He explained the VOR and his working there with the BOYS. Remember what I told about my father when he took us on trips - he would quiz us when we got home. That is why I focused on the things Duane told me...and I did ask questions. My father believed the best education his children could get was to experience it....every trip was a learning experience we often got quizzed on later. We did not make it to WA as my mother was pregant with her 4th child, but not her last child! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Robert99 - you were NOT on that beach in 1979 / 1980. I have noted you guys have never ACKNOWLEGED the big flood in 1977/1978. NOT one time. The money was deposited AFTER that flood. Nor have you mentioned the other flooding between 1971 and 1979. A lot of the erosion has happened over the yrs. but you would claim it happened in a few short months...and, you proclaim RESEARCHERS are on that other site. Those researchers are individuals like yourself with opinions - NONE of them including the geologist lived in the area & or worked in the are & knew the waters sources & how they have changed over the last 100 yrs. You seemingly forget that WA has a unique geographic phenomena not addressed by these so called researchers. DUH! Only one of them is actually capable or has the knowledge. His presence & experience with the State of WA is limited. His participation is that place is non-existent - has he ever made one post to that site? His speciality was animals & deserts not rivers. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

That's the million dollar question. I explain it by saying Cooper put it there, because he wanted Tina to have it. He didn't throw it away. He choose Tina bar as a easy point of reference for her to find it. Which also means, he notified Tina in some manner, mail, phone...who knows. The timing for this is spot on, as I recall, Tina went to the convent in late '79, which is also the most probable time the money was put there, as summer would be too risky, too many people , someone else would have found it. I disgree that he contacted her, but the name was significant & perhaps it was his message - to let her know he was OK & was still alive or to make it appear he perished in the incident. My daughters appearance & Tina's are so damn similar it is spooky. Even her recent pictures - those 2 could have been sisters. I have alway felt Tina held back on her knowledge of Cooper. Her words to me "Cooper was a very SAD man"....therefore Cooper had to have said something that indicated he was SAD. I will always believe that Tina & Cooper exchanged information never made public or revealed by Tina. Tina even in her fear reached out to Cooper & he never ever forgot it nor did he forget her face & features. They were imbedded in his mind, because if he died the last face he would ever see was the that of Tina. My heart and imagination tell me this is true...he found that image in my daughter - absolutely a great father - the greatest. Tina is much older than my daughter, but the appearance even as they aged - they could have been sisters. Maybe I just have a vivid imagination - but, my guts tells me I am right...my heart tells me they connected on that night of Nov 1995 & that she alone changed one man's life forever. He continued to GIVE to those in need thru out his life...something changed this multi time criminal in to a hardworking honest businessman...& it was not just age or illness as someone at one time maintained. It was a deeper drive - much deeper. Maybe because he had lived the life & knew what it was like to be an ex-con trying to make a living or a young man on the run with no funds for food. Duane got arrested for stealing food. Ironic...."feed a man & give him hope, but do not make him dependent on you" and do not make him dependent on hand outs. Teach him how to survive. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

That's the million dollar question. I explain it by saying Cooper put it there, because he wanted Tina to have it. He didn't throw it away. He chose Tina bar as a easy point of reference for her to find it. Which also means, he notified Tina in some manner, mail, phone...who knows. The timing for this is spot on, as I recall, Tina went to the convent in late '79, which is also the most probable time the money was put there, as summer would be too risky, too many people , someone else would have found it. I feel like you are telling my story from the perspective of an observer & yet I have NO idea who you are. When we were in the Washougal area Duane mentioned knowing a woman who lived in Gresham, but I did not ask any questions & if I did - I have long forgotten them. (edit - I do remember he told me she was a stewardess). That was in my early communications with the FBI. It was not until 1980 after they found the money- it came out that Tina Mucklow lived in Gresham....but I only saw that one article & ( any specific knowledge of the incident would come only after I learned that D.B. Cooper was Dan Cooper in 1996). In 1980 after the money find Duane left CO leaving me with a senior in High School & did NOT let me know his location, address or contact information for all most 3 months. He would call me - and remember in 1980 we didn't have caller ID and I still do not. Duane went so far as to prevent me from seeing a special on Cooper on America 's Most Wanted after the money find. I remember my disappointment in his making arrangements with another couple to go out that night....this was right after the money find. In all of our marriage this was one of 2 times he made such arrangements. I apologized for being such poor company as there was something on TV I wanted to see....Duane could NOT allow me to see that program, because he knew I would remember the things he told me & I would realize the money was found in a place he took me to in Late Sept or Early Oct of 1979. Our life went on & I forgot about Cooper. I was never one to dwelled on the past....Remember it was one yr and 3 months after his death in 1995 that I found out the name Dan was the name used on the plane. That was when I contacted the FBI. So much I told to Mr. Himmelsbach as he was the person I spoke with most of the time. The FBI was alway curt and did not engage me - I trusted Mr. H to relay the information to the FBI for me. Remember I did NOT have a computer until 2000...so the only things I knew about Cooper was what was in a book of fiction by Max Gunther prior to that date. Max and I exchange many phone call and letters which I still have. Someone mailed me a book or just put iit in my mail box - Ha Ha Ha by D.B. Cooper - I never knew the benefactor. I had the envelope for a long time but when I remarried and moved - that went by the way side. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Weber was in & out of prison for making that same mistake. Returning to the scene of the crime....when he stole a government check from one of the military wives - my thought is she should NOT have been in a bar with her husband overseas...she was showing no respect for her spouse. Duane's eyes would dart from corner to corner everytime the took me to some place he had been before. Now I know another person was involved in some of the crimes Duane committed. That one individual who is deceased and had a 'problem' told me about several of the incidents. The individual was a decent sort of person at the time I spoke with the indiviual...but showed no remorse for things that person participated in. I did not spill the beans on the individual, but did tell the FBI they messed up when they did not allow me to have been a part of the visit made to the individual...wired. The FBI gave the person a heads up they were coming & evidence was destroyed. Yet, after the fact when I pointed this out to the FBI they did not except that explanation. The individual did not indicate Weber was Cooper & another individual I spoke to connected to this person claimed she knew Duane was Cooper. One was an Alcoholic & died in 2004. The other one was a drug addict who died earlier only after she told me she KNEW DUANE was Cooper. She told me she kept some things of his but they got left behind when she was fleeing a place & a man who supposedly was going to help her with her probablem and provided her with a job. I tried to record some of these conversations - but only got parts of a couple...the gadgets I bought at radio shack just were not adequate & I did not have much of a recorder I could attach. All I had was basic telephone in those yr and all I have now. Duane returned to the scene of the incident - & he planted money in more than one place. I didn't know what he was doing - I was ordered to stay in the car or he gave me a task to perform such as going to the vending machine at the Red Lion. One off of a bridge coming over from Oregon to WA. He claimed it was candy wrapper - it flew like it had weight to it. The next spot was his trip down the River at one of these spots. Topper Dr, Lieser Point and Image Ln. In 1979 there was NO house there and he went down to the river & told me to take a nap & stay in the car. He came back up from the river with his snow shovel & something else in the other hand. I got out of the car that was on the side away from the river and asked if I could get out. In the mean time he popped the trunk & put something back in ..as I had only opened my door. As we stand there he tells me the PDF is across the river and that he used to know someone who had a house at this location. There was NO building on the property in 1979. Then he talked about the track and told me about the train going thru there very slow because of a switching station in Vancouver. Lots of bums jumped the trains at this point. Beyond a berm to the north of us he stated there was a very nice subdivision & knew a man who used to live there. NOT ONE TIME HAVE I EVER BEEN ABLE TO GET THE FBI OR ANYONE TO GO TO THE PROPERTY RECORDS & SEARCH THE NAMES OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS FOR THE WASHOUGAL RIVER DESIGNATIONS IN ANY OF THE 3 LOCATIONS. If I lived there I could have done it myself. When I search locations in the Washougal area - an individual went far and beyond the position to answer my questions. They were using a new property records system & destroying pics of home that had once been in the sytem. She got lucky & found me the pic of a specific piece of property as it was in 1979 when I saw it. The pic had been set to be destroyed. A historical pic in my mind & her mind - but she was doing her job. This is going to be the case with the Vancouver locations & NO ONE - would do it for me. Now the best one can expect is to find the recordings of the properties as they progressed over the yrs...no pictures just property information and the notations of property transfers...with pictures of current homes. I want with all of my heart & soul to know the HISTORY of the properties at those three points going all the way back to 1948. The next stop is Tena's bar & he goes behind a building along the river & then comes back up to the car. He carried no package or device I could see. His jacket had deep pockets. When he got in the car he removed a paper sack from his side & set if by his right leg. I asked what it was & he told me it was just trash he was going to get rid of at the next spot. The next spot is the Red Lion - he sends me to the vendor machines tell me exactly where they WHERE - HOW DID HE KNOW THAT! He told me he would be around back. When I got the snack and brought them to the river he was standing on a piling up high looking to the West. I asked what he was doing and he told me he was watching that bag going down the river... NOTE: I am very protective of our waterways and I was all over him. He was far sited and I was near sited - but I could not see what was floating down the Washougal... I was furious and check the trash BARRELS...and that is what they were in 1979 - barrels that had been painted with no lid. ALL of THEM were EMPTY - and he knew he was going to CATCH it! No trash to be thrown into a river or out of a car window. Too much pain to continue to do this, but I felt this needed to be stated ONE more time. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I have no idea how to do that. I have adobe Pictures. But found nothing about Adobe reader. Last time I tried to put something on my computer it cost the as much as a new one to restore my files. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Jo, All public statements from the Hughes family indicates that Howard Hughes was and still is buried in the family plot at a cemetery in the Houston area. Robert99 Like I have said - I DID NOT read the article but was told about it. I do know the woman who told me the story - so I am going to go see her this wk if I feel like it. The surgery has been delayed at this time. More important things came up with another health problem so that one has to be tended to first. She lives not too far from me - so I will confront her on this.... His head was separated from his body and placed in Cyrogentics....so we know the head was around after his body was buried. Perhaps this is what she was referring to. I really never looked into it - just repeating what I had been told. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I only know about Hughes threw the things written about him - other than what the exchange between Duane & the one legged man in the car on the way to dinner. Duane asked the guy what he had been doing. His reply was that he had worked for a while as a driver for Hughes. Howard Hughes - that is the only time I heard Hughes mentioned in a discussion with another person. I know Duane mentioned something about his death - but, if I remember it was just speculation and I do not remember who he was talking to or when such conversation took place. I feel sure it was in a conversation with this man with his wife & I present in the vehicle on out way to dinner. His right leg was missing and why he drove a bright Yellow TORO - because it did not have the hump in the floor board. Either his first name was Harry or his last name was Harrison...I really do not remember. What I have told is all I know. Definitely I have read things about Hughes just as anyone else has. I had never heard about his remains being dumped in the Gulf until the last 3 yrs. I was told about the article but did not read it myself. I know the source of the article so perhaps I can contact the woman & obtain a copy of the article. It was supposedly in small obscure newspaper. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Coming from you that is an insult. Look back at what you did to Kenny. NO don't because you will go into a long tirade of repeated postings over and over and over. One thing about what I say - such as the phone number I tried to call. IT is the TRUTH coming from a woman who actually lived this story - if one could call it a story. It has been a living nightmare! At the time of the skyjacking Meire was in dire straights and Duane must have thought a lot about the man - and the family connect is just too much to ignore. Of course the FBI or no one else wants to believe that everything was really as simple as it was. They just can't believe they missed it or that Cooper actually slipped right thru their fingers. Or Cooper had a connection of some kind. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber