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"Photos obtained from family members and prison files." This photo was taken around 1976. Please compare to the 1971 photo which showed his hair dyed and then compare with the black and white from 1970 which showed gray hair. The quality of the photo is poor and it makes the eyes appear blue, but they were a DARK Black Brown. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Mattmais writes: "I read the on another board. Don't people that search for antiques go to flea markets? "I think that many profilers who have analyzed Cooper have suggested that he might be someone who was probably interested in antiques." Jo Weber replys:

Photos obtained from family members and prison files. Help Me Identify this Man: This is photo I made of a man at one of our conventions in Colorado. He was a diabetic at that time in 1978 and his health was poor. This man knew Duane from WA, OR and MT. I do not know the dates of their acquaintance as he inadvertenly mentioned it in a coversation when I asked how he knew Duane. I do not remember much of the conversation as we were only alone a few minutes, but this man had something to do with the aviation field....mechanic, repairman - may have been a helicopter or plane pilot. I remember his eyes the most - the shade of blue. Before Duane returned he asked me not to mention our conversation to Duane - since Duane had never mentioned having lived in those areas - that it may have been a part of his life he didn't want to share with me. The name was Ed Hurand (not sure of the spelling) and I don't know what the Ed stood for. The Hurand may be spelled Horand, Horan or any other variation you can find. Perhaps someone out there has more capabilities than I have in finding people. I know he would be deceased and that he would have been born in the 1924 to 1930 range as he was near Duane's age. I have already checked the SS records. The name may have been an alias. Please help Get this photo to any Old Timers you know in that area. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Rich says: "Wouldn't that contradict the image that he was living lavishly off of a stash of stolen cash?" Jo Weber says: In the insurance industry he was offered a position as a State Manager and he told me he could not take it as he had to "keep a low profile". I did not understand this because I was under the impression that he had gone to jail for a couple of months because he got in with the wrong people...never dreamed that I would someday learn 17 Yrs and six Federal Pens. I encouraged him to take the position - which he NEVER regreted. We made good money (very good in those yrs) until he went out on disability in 1988. Taking the position he grew a very thick mustache and let his hair get fuller and longer...he did not look like the same man. This was during the time that 2 books about Cooper came on the market. Now I know what he meant by "low profile". He had learned how to HIDE - not to be visible - he survived when he thought he was going to die. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

What I am going by is - if indeed the two cars are new - he did not have the W-2's or 1099's to support the purchase of those cars in 1971, 1970 or 1972 except to have obtained it by other means. In 1971 the joint income was only $3700......yes, he was a thief as I have learned, but he was never very good at it as he ended up in 6 different Federal pens. from 1945 until 1968 -Served 17 yrs in a 23 yr span. Having learned from you guys that those cars were considered new in those lean yrs is odd....(I just thought they were old used cars of those days)...Dumb Broad Syndrome! Even if they only cost the total of $5000 back then - one has to consider the income. $5000 seems like peanuts today, but it was a small fortune considering the income. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Quade states: "There are no "clues" in to the photo. The glasses are meaningless. Thousands upon thousands of people wore glasses with frames like that in that time period. To attempt to connect the frames in that photo with the frames in the police artist sketch is futile and would never lead anywhere" Jo replies: There are Clues: - if you understood the circumstances - The photo is taken (so it says on the back 1970) but that has been crossed out to read 1971. I think it was made in 1972 BECAUSE: -- In 1969, 1970 and 1971 they made very little MONEY - 1971 there was basically no income ( I have the tax records - for some reason he kept them from 1969 until his death in 1995). Your response and that of others who astutely corrected my error about this vehicle being a Chevy have provided more clues than you can possibly imagine. How could a person or couple afford 2 new cars with NO CREDIT and no income? Again thank You ALL. As for the photos of Duane - being compared with the composite - comparison was done by the Las Vegas ID system using Duane and other suspects - Duane came out number 1. Also that 2 forensic artist and the artists who did the composite for the FBI - "say you can't get any closer" and comments about a certain feature the witnesses told the artist about. but he was unable to get this across in the composite. I very quickly identified this one "feature" without being told what it was. It was one of the deciding points in my investigation. I knew this was the place to be - the knowledge that this forum contains is beyond compare. I am eternally grateful for all of your help. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

The car tag is covered by the picture and frame. since this photo was made in the Atlanta, Ga. area I would assume - Georgia. Some people carried Alabama tags to get around the insurance. Does anyone have any idea what yr the car would be. Since he was living and working in S.C. part of that time it might be a S.C. tag. Thank You my Friends. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Thanks for the car ID. I thought it was a Chevy, but too many of you say Dodge . I know nothing about cars, but I had been told it was Chevy and accepted that. Since it is a Dodge - that killed one of my theories. The clues - the glasses. The other one is the briefcase - I have no idea what the briefcase looked like that Cooper had other than it was cheap and ordinary so that doesn't help. That only leaves the Glasses - I enlarged them and turned them around and they are exactly like the ones on the composite. Why this lady chose to send me this particular photo regarding Duane's past I know not. She told me it was so I could see what she looked like. I read too much into it. Again thanks for putting me on track with the right information - this is what I need - second opinions and others who know more about certain subjects than I could possibly know. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

PHOTO CLUES - BE SURE TO LOOK HARD AT THIS PHOTO- FIND THE CLUES - glasses, brief case and 2 door green chevy (it appears tan because of the sun, but look at the sides). The woman's face has been rubbed out to protect her idenity. The photo was made in 1971. The green Chevy - is not significant to the Cooper Caper, but I am making note in this forum for my own reasons. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Made a serious error on date: "You guys are helping me solve this - I feel I am Closer than I have ever been. Due diligence - putting the truth to work - and never giving up even when the odds are against you - demanding unrelentlessly that the truth be told. This has been the my life since May 24 1966 (should be 1996) - one yr and 2 months after Duane died. 12 yrs of pounding the pavement is starting to pay off." ERROR:Sorry, I made a boo-boo. It shoud be "this has been my life since May 24 1996 - one yr and 2 months after Duane died. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I followed that lead which is 5 yrs old. It took me to two phone numbers - one of which is no longer in service and the other number claimed no knowledge of the parties I asked for. A young man contacted me from Texas - and something he said to me regarding the "Norjax" book that he was reading - was exactly what I felt when viewing a picture of the plane while it was on the ground. This triggered a memory that I may never have told anyone before regarding the Sentimental Journey Duane and I went on in 1979 only 4 months prior to the money being found on the banks of the Columbia - another place we went on that trip among many others. He was showing me around Seattle (no map needed) and he said he was going to take a short cut - this short cut went behind the airport and there was this Tall fence...he noted that some thing had changed but did not mention Cooper -. Now I know why he took me to that area - that is where the plane was taxied to. I thought this little detour was strange and NOW I know why. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

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The opinion of the forum members is being requested. It was recently suggested to me that I should re-contact Tina Mucklow the stewardess who had the most contact with "Cooper". The only contact I had with her was 3 yrs ago - she refused to view any photo's. I made a phone call and she called me back then I sent her a letter - a very nice letter without any photos as I felt that it should be her choice. I am not so unkind or abrasive as to inflict the photos on her without her permission. She was very young and her life has been - a not so normal life because of the "Cooper" thing. She has requested that the FBI not contact her anymore. I was told by the ACTIVE FBI when they - were reviewing Duane's file that they did not know where she was...? (they were abiding by her request I assume). I found her with the help of one of my un-named angels ( individuals who refuse to give their names but supply me with information that is not readily accessible to me). She is the only one who is going to have the answers that I need. It was suggest that I should contact her again but in-person, as I come across much more convincing in person and that she will see that this has also destroyed my life and that I need answers. 12 yrs of research and loosing business and relationships - those close friends who know me know that I cannot stop till I die, but know also that I need to enjoy what is left of my life. This stewardess has the answers if she is willing to talk to me and view the photos that I have never made public and things that I feel he may have said. Phases, movements, actions, habits, wording and a couple of things that I feel he may have said to her. He knew very well that she might be the last person on the face of this earth that he would ever see. I do truly believe that something was said that was profound on his part - she was such a young girl to carry the burden this has created. I would also like to have my life back or what is left of it. I know it is a choice - my choice as I have to know the truth even if I can never speak of the truth. We make choices in life - I just can't walk away from this until I have the truth - and for the FBI to FINISH it's investigation. I do very much need for her to look me in the eyes and talk to me. She is not the only one whose life Duane changed - she is not the only one who hurts - my heart aches with the memory of all that I have found out about the man I was married to....I need to know that these 12 yrs of research and my 17 yrs of marriage to this man were not totally invain. I am not sure I can handle the pain of NOT knowing much longer. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

("The photo you referred to with his leg seeming to be bent backwards... Looks to me like he has on a prostitic, or the photo was taken on a weird angle and the camera didn't capture" ) Nelkel, He had a slight backward knee syndrome - at least that is what I have been told it was called. This did not affect the functions of his legs nor did it keep him from joining the armed forces twice. Those photos are the only ones I could find from that time span of his life 1970 and 1971. I realize that the quality of the prints are poor. The main point I am trying to make with the two standing photos - is the drastic change in his looks. BK & WHT 1970 looks old - Colored 1971 he has dyed his hair and he looks very different. November 24, 1971 - Date of Skyjack Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Again thanks for your suggestion about a web site: Everytime I plug D. B. Cooper into the search engines I come up with a lot of junk sites and blogs. What you do not realize is that I have gleaned a lot of information - by private email from people who do not want to participate on line I would never have found these people if it had not been for this site. I have a few more photos to scan and post then I will wait for private messages - like some of the leads I have recieved already. I will answer questions and would like answers to some of the questions I have already asked such as survival of the jump with weather conditions as POSTED not by the FBI, but by the actual weather report. Remember ALL I am asking is for your help getting the information to the OLD TIMERS who are not computer savy....by way of meetings and any other means you have. This is why I at DropZone History and Trivia. I am open to options about Cooper, and I check-out each one diligently....go back and read the thread from beginning to end and then judge me not. Help Me. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Guys and Gals - give me some feed back on the panoramic. Note the composites have some fade to them and one of them the computer enhanced to show too dark. The composites I posted on the site the FBI sent to me yrs after I first contacted them - NOTE THAT I WENT PULIC WITHOUT EVER HAVING SEEN THE TWO COMPOSITES THAT WERE POSTED. All I had was the old Bing Crosby look alike and a black and white postage stamp size copy (from a newpaper) of the composites that they finally provided to me. When I opened that envelope - I fell to my knees in my yard. My daughter thought I was having a heart attack. All I could say was LOOK LOOK LOOK and held the composites up to her with trembling hands. Her response was "He was Cooper". Until that day I think that maybe she didn't belive me. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

PHOTOS: I am trying hope these can be seen Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

NAVY Bad Conduct discharge - family rumor has it he hit an officer (in time of war) off base with a bottle of liquor because the officer was messing with Duane's girl friend or lady of the evening. His birth certificate had been altered by the family to show him to be of legal age to enlist - he was a problem child and the youngest of 3. From a letter written to his mother Thanking her for the $1. and for laudering his clothes which he told her he had outgrown - he states " keep his where-abouts a secret and that this boy was going to make good" leads me to believe that there had been problems at home. I have been told of the many escapades he pulled as a child - pushing a piano down a flight of stairs at school because he didn't like the teacher in the 2ed grade. Another story regarded this same time span - that he took a baseball bat and broke all of the windows in the school. This sounds like a very troublesome child. I do not know what problems existed that he was running from at the ripe old age of 17 that would have necessitated changing his birth certificate to read that he had been born in 1924 - the family records read 1925. Supposedly so he could enlist. As for the ARMY - I understand he commandered an officer's jeep for a joy ride. These things come from my own research and locating family member I had never met. Those dealing with the service are documented in his records. PHOTO - MADE IN 1968 - LOCATION UNKNOW. Was taken after his release from Jefferson City Federal Prison in Mo. Sentence was Commuted. QUESTION - WOULD HE NOT HAVE BEEN ON PAROLE? Note the salt and pepper hair yet in 1971 it has been dyed a very dark brown and slicked down. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

In reply to the many private emails that I have recieved. Duane was in the NAVY and recieved a BAD CONDUCT Discharge and a few months later he was in the ARMY. Status of ARMY discharge unknown. I am at this site to see if anyone can put him at a drop zone from 1945 until 1971. My sole purpose in being on this site is to accomplish that one thing that the FBI failed to do - except that I have something the FBI didn't have. ACTUAL PHOTOS of a suspect and not a composite. I need for ALL OF YOU TO HELP get these PHOTOS to as many old TIMERS as possible - especially those who do not have access to or use a computer. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Okay, I'll bite. Why is it important? Mark Look closely at the legs - they seem to bend backwards....It is not prominent unless you are looking for it. I have often wanted to know if one of the witnesses, especially Tina Mucklow noticed this as she watched him preparing the chutes and the bundle which he tied to himself. Was this ever mentioned to the FBI? Not that I am aware of. There was something else (not the legs) about Cooper that was never revealed by the FBI, but was told to Doug Pasternak by the artist who did the composite regarding something about Cooper's features. When I was talking to Doug (he was a reporter for the US News and World Reports) -I immediately blurted out what it was before Doug could tell me. It was the deciding moment that caused me to go public in 2000. There is no way I could have picked this one thing about Duane that would be the exact thing that the artist felt that he was not able to depict. I know that chills went up and down my spine from my head to my heals and still do every time I remember that moment and that conversation. I cannot reveal what it is to the public, because I would like to hear one of the stewardesses say it myself. Tina has refused to look at pictures of Duane and I have not forced them on her - she was a young girl and this was a traumatic thing for her. I am always hoping she will change her mind or that a friend will encourage her to look at the Photos of Duane L. Weber (not the photos that the FBI has, but the photos that I am revealing). Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Yes, the BLACK & WHITE was taken in 1970 and the colored photo in 1971. STRANGE isn't it. I have yet another photo to post that was taken in 1968 and you will find that even more odd. He was a chameleon. Wait till you see other photos taken during our marriage of 17 yrs. I am down in my back and not able to sit at the computer very long tonight, but within a few days you will see more photos. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

PICTURES - I HOPE: If these things come thru you will see two photos side by side. 1970 - A black and white made in Columbia, S.C. - showing he was in excellent physical condition. Please NOTE his stance - this is very important. NOTE: Also that the hair is grey in this poor quality picture. (I believe he may have been jumping in that area under another name. 1971 - One yr. later he has dyed hair - this was taken in the fall of 1971. Both pictures had a companion who has been cut out. He looks ready to go for the Big One. 1972 - This is a comment - tax records - he made no money in 1971 or 1972 - yet, in 1972 he bought 2 NEW cars?????? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber