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Out flying yourself is the true test.. Yes, but even then the pilot needs equal exp. in each suit and an unbiased opinion. Cool suit, you should make the right hand wing cutaway handle orange for true yin yang balance and while your at it the right hand bootie cover and zips, also orange (yes they make orange zips). And if you pick the seam on the back of the wing you will notice an improvement in performance due to extra range of motion.

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Aircrafts announced: 2 otters and a Heli-chopper As well as, "Mannequin wingsuit jumps" Come flock with the mannequin and watch as it pulls off the first wingsuit landing. 2nd annual "Low Pull Contest" last years winner pulled at 450ft and won an Argus :) Congrats to Harry Parker. BUY A WINGSUIT My Website Tony Suits [url "http:/

Please reread There are two areas in wingsuit flight that laminar flow is ALMOST acheived. I capitalized ALMOST for one. Then finished with: Basically the air separates farther back along the wing than normal "not quite laminar." No. That's still a profound misunderstanding of what laminar flow is. Laminar flow is not just "air flowing over the top of the wing". CORRECT Laminar flow is the air not becoming detached from the surface. Most plane's need the air to detach from the wing surface to get better response to the control surface areas. After it detaches it now reattaches with more force, getting more pressure on control surface areas. And my friend Yuri perhaps if you get 9 of your "friendly male friends" to do a stack you will be flying higher than you ever dreamed and not have to leave the ground.

There are two areas in wingsuit flight that laminar flow is ALMOST acheived. one is in a steep AOA dive there is a point when instead of going exactly on the angle you are pointing you drift more forward(as if you are pulling out of the dive) this is an increase in lift being created (this only works well on a wing with a leading edge shaped better than your arm) I realize this when I am jumping with Ryan Scarlett who weighs over 300 out the door. when he is flying along he is level with the horizon and I am at a much steeper angle but we are both flying the same path though the sky. at this AOA there is air flowing over the top of my suit I know this because I can feel the air on the belly of my suit (I am backflying in this example, of course) The other time I have experienced this is (again while backflying) I fly up underneath someone, both flying at a high forward speed and when I get into an exact spot at an exact speed i get pulled up into them (they are not falling on me) This is due to air being forced over the top of the wings creating more lift. This is similar to the ground effect planes get flying close to the ground but not exactly the same. Basically the air separates farther back along the wing than normal not quite laminar. So here you go yuri your future wingsuit the "BI"plane cause I heard you swing that way

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More dates (Summerfest and The Ranch) ....World Record Flock Intro camp....Jan. 19th, 20th 2008 Skydive Elsinore, Elsinore Ca ..........Done, everyones skill levels progressed nicely, 16 wingsuit pilots attended. ....Puerto Rico Boogie....................Feb. 13th - 17th 2008 XtreemDivers, Arecibo PR .......... Scott Bland and Justin Shorb will be organizing. First Flight Courses by Jeff Nebelkopf (mornings until noon, schedule ahead slots are filling fast). .....NEW......ELSINORE WINGSUIT WEEKEND.........Feb 23rd, 24th 2008 Skydive Elsinore, Elsinore Ca .......... Smaller get together for the locals, organized by Eike Hohenadl and Sara Bratcher. .....NEW......Come On I Wanna Lai U, Luau boogie.......March 7th-9th 2008 Skydive Sebastian, Sebastian Fl ..........This is a warm up for Flock-N-Dock and a really good boogie. Organized by Jeff Nebelkopf. ....Flock-n-Dock 4.0......................Mar. 14th - 16th 2008 Skydive City, Zephyrhills Fl ........... Try not to miss this one. Z-Hills is the mecca of wingsuit flight. This will be a qualifier for the record in November. .....NEW......ELSINORE WINGSUIT WEEKEND.........Mar. 29th, 30th 2008 Skydive Elsinore, Elsinore Ca ............Smaller get together for the locals plus the Seattle Skydivers Escape to Elsinore, organized by Eike Hohenadl. ….. NEW ……. SKYDIVE ORANGE WINGSUIT WEEKEND …… April 5th, 6th 2008 Skydive Orange, Orange Va ………… Event will focus on flocking skills development, organized by Scott and Chris Gray. ....Carnivale Boogie...............................April 11th - 13th 2008 Skydive Sebastian, Sebastian Fl ...........This will be a wingsuit skills camp geared toward the record in November as well as a great boogie. Organized by Justin Shorb and Jeff Nebelkopf. .....NEW......ELSINORE WINGSUIT WEEKEND........April 19th, 20th 2008 Skydive Elsinore, Elsinore Ca ..........Smaller get together for the locals, organizers to be announced. .....NEW......WORLD RECORD FLOCK QUALIFIER............May 2nd - 4th 2008 The Parachute Center, Lodi Ca ..........This is a qualifier for the record in November, as well as a great group of jumpers and a really fun D.Z. Organized by ED Palowski. ….. NEW ……. SKYDIVE ORANGE WINGSUIT WEEKEND …… May 10th, 11th 2008 Skydive Orange, Orange Va ………… Event will focus on flocking skills development, organized by Scott and Chris Gray. .....NEW......ELSINORE WORLD RECORD FLOCK CAMP...........May 24th, 25th 2008 Skydive Elsinore, Elsinore Ca ...........This is the next official Skydive Elsinore World Record Flock Camp and qualifier, our goal is a 40 way. Organized by Justin Shorb and Jeff Nebelkopf. .....NEW......Wingsuit Skills Camp.............June 7th, 8th 2008 Skydive Crosskeys, Williamstown NJ ..........This is a wingsuit skills camp and qualifier for the record. Organized by Jeff Nebelkopf. .....NEW......ELSINORE WINGSUIT WEEKEND........June 14th, 15th 2008 Skydive Elsinore, Elsinore Ca ..........Smaller get together for the locals, organizers to be announced. .....NEW......Blue Sky Ranch Wingsuit Weekend.....June 14th, 15th 2008 Blue Sky Ranch, Gardiner N.Y. ...........This is a wingsuit skills camp and qualifier for the record. Organized by Jeff Nebelkopf. .....NEW......WORLD RECORD FLOCK CAMP...........June 21st, 22nd 2008 Skydive Pepperell, Pepperell Ma .............This is the wingsuit camp and qualifier you don't want to miss, Justin Shorb, Steve Harrington and Jeff Nebelkopf will be organizing and coaching. Brian "Lurch" Caldwell will be on hand to smash anyones bite switches into oblivion

"The Vampire was significantly faster than the SM1." Sorry to disagree with you James, the fact is Tristan had less than 20 or so jumps on a super mach1. I Know from experience that a SM1 is Faster than a Mach1 and I was able to out distance Robi while wearing a Mach1, with him in a highly moded Vampire. So how does a Vampire loose to a Mach1 and beat the even faster SM1? The answer is experience in the suit.

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Thank you to everyone who showed, this event would not have been a success without you. The D.Z. was very pleased with the turnout. Here are a few shots from the weekend. And a special thanks to Ed and Justin for coming out and helping to organize.

Details coming... Beach jumps (optional golf course landings) Wingsuit, Freefly and RW organizers Super Otter(s) (working on Casa) Wild animals.......mmmm Pig roast dinner (300 lbs consumed last year) Shoot the geek for charity, paint ball booth $100 first prize (best Luau outfit) Authentic Hawaiian Luau show Fireworks (only 1 finger was lost last year) Ice carving Friday night D.J....Saturday night Band BUY A WINGSUIT My Website Tony Suits [url "http:/

Team Dirty Sanchez and Skydive Sebastian are hosting the 3rd annual... Cum On I Wanna Lay You Luau Boogie, March 7th - 9th, 2008. You do not want to miss this boogie, anyone who has been in the past will agree. Dennis Neal from Team Dirty Sanchez really goes to town on this one. Many details to come.......... I will be organizing wingsuits as well as providing First Flight Courses and bringing the usual arsenal of demo wingsuits. If you are coming early to flock n dock this is the place to be. BUY A WINGSUIT My Website Tony Suits [url "http:/

Super Otter, Skyvan, Heli-chopper, several Balloons, L39 (rides only) Saturday night party, dinner, beer, band, raffle and more... The wingsuit list so far, 1. Jeff Nebelkopf (organizer) 2. Tony Uragallo 3. Scotty Burns (video) 4. Tony Guinn (Mex Tony) 5. Harry Parker 6. Mike Masheff (Grey Mike) 7. Ward Hessig (mirage) 8. Ray Stone (stoney) 9. Troy Drogemeyer 10. Purple Mike (pending # of avail. women) 11. Justin Shorb (pending gay worthiness cert. from Nick R) 12. Matt Hoover (pending approval of girlfriend) BUY A WINGSUIT My Website Tony Suits [url "http:/

World Record Flock Intro camp....Jan. 19th, 20th 2008 Skydive Elsinore, Elsinore Ca Puerto Rico Boogie....................Feb. 13th - 17th 2008 XtreemDivers, Arecibo PR Flock-n-Dock 4.0......................Mar. 14th - 16th 2008 Skydive City, Zephyrhills Fl Carnivale ...............................April 11th - 13th 2008 Skydive Sebastian, Sebastian Fl .....NEW......WORLD RECORD FLOCK CAMP............May 2nd - 4th 2008 The Parachute Center, Lodi California World Record Flock Camp...........May (TBA) 2008 Skydive Elsinore, Elsinore Ca World Record Flock Camp...........June (TBA) 2008 Skydive Pepperell, Pepperell Ma .....NEW......WORLD RECORD FLOCK CAMP...........June 28th-29th Skydive Palatka, Palatka Fl Summerfest............................ (TBA) 2008 Skydive Chicago, Ottawa Il World Record Flock Camp...........Sept. (TBA) 2008 Skydive Elsinore, Elsinore Ca Flock-n-Dock 4.5...................... (TBA) 2008 Skydive City, Zephyrhills Fl SKYDIVE ELSINORE SKY 2 PRODUCTIONS MIRAGE FLOCK UNIVERSITY Z-FLOCK WINGSUIT SCHOOL WEST COAST WINGSUITS NORMAN KENT PRODUCTIONS MATTHOOVER.COM PERFORMANCE DESIGNS ARGUS LARSEN & BRUSGAARD ULTIMATEFLITE LLC. FLEXVISION TEAM ILL VISION Your Company Name Here......... BUY A WINGSUIT My Website Tony Suits [url "http:/

lets not take this stuff into the personal attack relm. I can say (and i have a s$/t load of video to prove it) there is nothing you can do when you see a streak of color jet past you at less than inches away. No reaction time is quick enough personaly I am f?%#ing sick of near misses and being hit its only a matter of time before someone is mamed for life or killed then we can all stand around with out thumbs up our asses wondering how it happened to us. Or we can plan this s$!t more safely. I strongly disagree with anyone doing a 180. Also if we dont start the breakoff early it becomes like it always has been everyone just separates a couple hundred feet apart and races for the dz in the same direction. If we need it i am sure we can arrang for cars to pick up the far people. This has got to be properly addressed and Scott please dont take this as a personal attack aside from a couple things your layout is very proffesional and well done. You have to know that there are always parts that will come into question when you plan something of this magnatude. And yes we are breaking new ground but lets not break bones. There is no other dicipline that does a bigway without doing dedicated camps to prep for the unseen. Nor are these done at open events because we are still in the infancy of this dicipline it needs to be done in stages hell i am catching slack for wanting to do a 71 way almost a year from now and there is a dedicated camp more than once a month all year. Lets shoot for figuring this all out in detail then people have a foundation to build off. Please dont take this the wrong way i am tired of being hit or coming within a centermeter of my life on an almost weekly bases. Aside from all these ramblings thank you Scott for taking the time and effort to put this together and I know you are open to critcism just dont take it personal. Oh ya one more thing YUR STUPID. Ha Ha I hope i will still get my christmas beer and not a jar of human procesed beer. BUY A WINGSUIT My Website Tony Suits [url "http:/

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I think it is a bit much to be shooting for an 80 way within two months from now we have not had a chance to properly train for this. Flock n dock is an open event so aside from qualifying people at the event (which will cut the size of the group nearly in half) it is just to dangerous. As far as bigway breakoffs go it needs to be a multi stage breakoff, outside flyers peel off first at 7000 ft then the group that is next in line at 6000 and so on. the only way this will safely work is if everyone does what they are suposed to do without fail, this is something that does not happen at open events. people go home alot happier when they have had some degree of success and no injurees. lets focus on training people to qualify for larger events in the future. Remember the motto for flock n dock "no flyer left behind" the only way to safely do this is to rate everyones skill level then put them on the appropriate dive. I have been hit on many dives by beginers and experts so far luck has saved me and im not sure how full my luck hand still is. So lets shelf the get as big as possible idea and work on identifying what safety issues we have and where everybody is at in terms of skill level. As far as straglers go you dont see them on bigways because they get cut and are told to work on their skills and try again next time. Nothing personal its just the way it has to be. BUY A WINGSUIT My Website Tony Suits [url "http:/