We won two beautiful world wars in Speakers Corner July 23 Dear wolfriverjoe, You made a good point about 20 million Russians dying during WW2. Russians are still suffering echos from that miserable war. A Russian man born in 1920 had a 20 percent chance of surviving until the end of WW2. They lost a generation of young men. Which means that Russia never experienced the sort of "Baby Boom" that expanded populations in Canada, USA, etc. 20 years later, the unborn sons of those soldiers did not father any more babies during the 1960s. Twenty years later (mid-1980s) Russia suffered another slump in birth rates. .... another slump in birth rates during the early 2000s, followed by another slump during the 2020s. Four generations later, Russian birth rates are still lower than replacement, so Russian population is still decliniing. Couple this with white-skinned Russians' xenophobia and the country is doomed to declining population. The Great Patriotic War (1939 - 1945) was not "good" from the Russian perspective.