skydiverton2

No , they did not land with the line over. I guess it cleared on it's own, the TM did not mention it and the canopy looked OK just before I turned. Stall the canopy and a bit of good luck might save the day. Helped me last year in clearing a tandem line-over. Bad for the videoman, good for me Using your droque to gain stability is a bad habid. . . Also in case you jump a sport rig!!!

You decided and landed safe with your passenger. Rest is not important Using your droque to gain stability is a bad habid. . . Also in case you jump a sport rig!!!

Hey...Jameson is about $86.50 a gallon... Drinking diesel would be cheaper... Here in holland unleaded is approx 1,67euro/liter. Beer is approx 1,50euro/liter. Don't drink and drive. Stay with the beer. saves you money Using your droque to gain stability is a bad habid. . . Also in case you jump a sport rig!!!

mmmmmmm..... a little bit more respect for these old ladies would be apropriate Using your droque to gain stability is a bad habid. . . Also in case you jump a sport rig!!!

Well there are certain aspects to be discovered in amsterdam making you (temporary) unfit for skydiving Using your droque to gain stability is a bad habid. . . Also in case you jump a sport rig!!!

I think the people from the "unimportant" DZs would beg to differ.. En in het nederlands? Ik vind dat je tegen potentiele klanten eerlijk moet zijn. Permanente hoogtebeperking en lange busritten, zijn in de springwereld niet normaal dit soort bijzondere situaties moet je ook eerlijk vertellen aan potentiele bezoekers. Ik heb makkelijk praten, ik spring alleen in duitsland uit een caravan en 2 minuten lopen naar de vouwmat (www.sky-fun.de) Using your droque to gain stability is a bad habid. . . Also in case you jump a sport rig!!!

Texel and Teuge are the 2 most important DZ (No 20minute bus drive after the jump and at least one C208) Using your droque to gain stability is a bad habid. . . Also in case you jump a sport rig!!!

Why didn't the other AADs on board the plane fire? Because pressurising is not the same as a fall of more than 35 m/s in a way you'd normally see. In this case the cypres 1 acts like this: hey this is weird, maybe I'm malfunctioning, get me to airtec i'm not turning on anymore until you do (very nice if you NEED that aad to work in the near future). Cypres 2 and Argus: hey this is weird, maybe I'm malfuctioning, I'll turn myself off for this jump and we'll see how the self-check goes when i'm turned on again (so an unusable AAD for that one jump). Vigil 1: hey this is weird, maybe I need to save someone, so I'll fire just in case (maybe this helps maybe it doesn't, you'll need a repack in any case). Would you like the airbag in your car to fire when in doubt (or all 8 as in my car?) or only in case the controller is absolute sure. I do not like the inside of my car to explode in an undefined situation. Groeten Using your droque to gain stability is a bad habid. . . Also in case you jump a sport rig!!!

Don't talk shit a commercial company is intended to make money, and will never exchange 5000units if not absolutely required due to safety issues Using your droque to gain stability is a bad habid. . . Also in case you jump a sport rig!!!

The reaction of smolders is typically vigil. From the beginning they always answered technical questions/issues with political and/or marketing statements. When there is a technical safety issue handle it with a technical solution, not with a statement how unfair competitors are taking there change. That is why you call it competitors. If you believe in win-win You loose!!! Using your droque to gain stability is a bad habid. . . Also in case you jump a sport rig!!!

Oh boy there we go again Using your droque to gain stability is a bad habid. . . Also in case you jump a sport rig!!!

correct it's just a term used for alloys/grades also used in aerospace design. It does not guarentee that the alloy is stronger. Using your droque to gain stability is a bad habid. . . Also in case you jump a sport rig!!!

Can do both sitting and standing exit Using your droque to gain stability is a bad habid. . . Also in case you jump a sport rig!!!

Agree, regardsless of the passenger/student discussion and the discussion about flaring. Those customers pay a lot of money so you can at least treath them as human beings, not cargo. Using your droque to gain stability is a bad habid. . . Also in case you jump a sport rig!!!

Tandemmaster jump number 1000 last weekend. No injured passengers/students!! Ok I had a couple of reserves with old EZ canopies some years ago, But we fly icarus and BT80 now. (Yes the plane on the picture we just jumped from and I'm only doing a handle check) Using your droque to gain stability is a bad habid. . . Also in case you jump a sport rig!!!

Using your droque to gain stability is a bad habid. . . Also in case you jump a sport rig!!!

The savest way to avoid this situation is to keep the student/passenger away from the controls at final. So no passenger assisted flares for me, ever! Using your droque to gain stability is a bad habid. . . Also in case you jump a sport rig!!!

This is not a comment about you in particular, but it is a shame that good instruction might be considered "no reason" to allow a tandem student to steer and land the canopy. Everything has a risk. Why would we allow a student skydiver to train and jump solo? This is more risk that a tandem jump. Again not a question aimed at you, but asked sincerely to everyone: What is it about tandem jumps that make everyone treat them so differently from other student jumps? Issue is that a tandempair has much more kinetic energy to be stopped than a solo jumper. Assume the speed is the same than a tandem couple has the double amount of energy (due to the double mass) A bad flare will expose the passenger feet to this double energy, with a very high change to break under this load, that is why I think the passenger has to keep it''s feet up at landing is more important than helping with flaring. Remember here in europe tandems are sold as thrillrides! The majority of the passengers does not even want to steer the canopy when I ask them to. In the rare occasion that a passenger shows up for a second or thirth tandemjump I let them for example open the parachute (so I have to catch a flying droque release) When you consider tandemjums as a training aid and also sell the jumps this way, you want to involve the student as much as possible, but that is a different situation. Using your droque to gain stability is a bad habid. . . Also in case you jump a sport rig!!!

I know how to teach this, but I'm not willing to take the extra risk of injuring a passenger/student for no reason Using your droque to gain stability is a bad habid. . . Also in case you jump a sport rig!!!

So don't you think there is a way to train your student to land safely while learning canopy control under your supervision? Other students manage to learn these things, and they are all alone landing their parachute. Oh there is absolutely a way to do this. First of all tandems are sold (western europe) as a thrillride from the beginning. Not as a way to start skydiving. This is clear for everyone including the passengers. If they are really interesting in starting they can book a AFF level 1 jump (1 jump only, with a discount if you take the remaining part of the course after). That means they are really pessengers, not students. The savest way to land for a tandem is with the passenger feet up. The passenger should pay all attention to do this and use their hands to hold their knees, so they do not have hands left to assist in landing. I tried several times to let the student assist in flaring, but they find it contradicting to keep feet up and lower hands. So do not do this unless you are absolutely sure. Majority of the passengers does note even want to steer the canopy, they just want to look around. Point is: first be save, after that consider the extra's like assisting in landing or try to stand-up on landing Using your droque to gain stability is a bad habid. . . Also in case you jump a sport rig!!!

Fly yourself, only correct the passenger when required. DO NOT rely on the passenger to make the tandem jump safe. When in doubt, do not take the passenger. Better safe than sorry The DZ I jump has a 90kg 1,90meter rule. Overweight and overstretched passengers can jump after approval of a TM (We are free to refuse) As I'm not that large, we agreed that i do not get passengers just exceeding this length, but I'm ok with heavier passengers in case they are rather fit (110kg from the gym is different than 110kg mc-donalds) Amount of training is also always point of discussion, I've seen a couple of TM overtraining their passenger/student. Do not tell how rig works, this is not required before the jump. If they really want to know you can tell after the jump. Stick with, jump sequence, exit, body position and perhaps landing. No topics that are not relevant. Never ever allow a first time student to assist in landing, if you do so it's only a matter of time before you (and/or the student) will end in hospital!!! Remark: for a new TM please be aware that the small skinny ones cause the biggest problems. This can not be told often enough. HAVE FUN, TRY TO FLY RELAXED

But scheduled maintenance is still not required according to the supplier Using your droque to gain stability is a bad habid. . . Also in case you jump a sport rig!!!

Does somewhan have a sketch with dimensions of a cessna caravan door? Eventualy also the inside dimensions. I need this to make a mock-up thanks in advance

Try to find the prices of the major spareparts, for example wheels and brakes. This is self-explaining. Also. a caravan can carry 14-18 skydivers instead of 9-10 in a pilatus Using your droque to gain stability is a bad habid. . . Also in case you jump a sport rig!!!

Fitna, the islam film of dutch politcian is online http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7d9_1206624103&p=1 Using your droque to gain stability is a bad habid. . . Also in case you jump a sport rig!!!