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Posts posted by porpoishead

  1. 33 minutes ago, riggerrob said:

    I am not following your math. ??????

    Most shotgun shells are more than 2 inches long.

    Yes 2-3/4 that’s correct more along the lines of 2.25”OAL

    and yes I see the error a 24” cut flush would be your 12+1 configuration

    of course it depends on the pattern as well the +8 extensions for a 3G setup on like a remy their 24” runs somewhere around 25” plus whatever choke adds an inch and change 

    on an 18” for the same setup would be a +2-3 extension so yes my mistake on that 

  2. 20 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:

    PS)  Re:  why are we fighting about if Dawnmarie is a girl?

    I'm not.  Why did you include me in any such group?

    We, as in the we that got tripped up on that temporarily, turning it into a scrap of sorts.

    If you weren’t involved in that in that, then you were not that we. I used the scenario as an example. I had no intentions to accuse you of anything 

  3. 9 minutes ago, jakee said:

    There was no exchange about whether she was a girl. There was an exchange about whether someone was being sexist and whether he should have known she was a girl simply from her profile pic of a hemet and sunglasses. 

    Yes without going back it was something along those lines my point was it was kind of silly in hindsight maybe it wasn’t since some people don’t know what that is or who she is apparently.

  4. 26 minutes ago, jakee said:

    Ah, sorry I misread 'everything' as 'anything'. But at least what you're saying there is that it has something to do with it. Because again, Billy lived with whatever was in his head for a very long time. He only lived with a gun for a few months.

    I thought it was going to be something along those lines however because you were asking I didn’t want to get it wrong.

    as far as your other post about him having a gun in his hand I think bill cleared some of that up when he was asking me to clarify some things I wrote.

    We were not at the murder scene brother there is no telling if billy woke up with a pistol in his hand, or when he decided to retrieve it from his safe to carry out the massacre. What sequence things went in is anybody's guess

    jack, I cannot answer to “billy lived with whatever was in his head for a very long time” I have no idea how any of that works im of sound mind and body and it doesn’t make any sense to me.

    if you want to make that assumption that’s on you.

    For the most part billy was a comedy show, dude was clown, but he could piss people off royally too, make you want to punch him in the face. He loved his girls for sure they just went to nationals for archery not last weekend but the one before, and both girls just recently celebrated their birthdays.


  5. 1 minute ago, JerryBaumchen said:


    Wanna try again?


    No I have nothing for you on that brother, if you don’t know then you don’t know. I stand corrected, theres 1 person on the planet that doesn’t know Dawnmarie.

    I figured with all the years you have been on here Jerry that you certainly knew who that was, I was mistaken.

    it means “don't fuck with a Jersey girl” by the way 

  6. 14 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:

    Hi Alex,

    Since all I know of you is from your posting here; that is what the old saying about people living in glass houses, etc.

    Try some courtesy on here and see how it goes; for a change.

    Jerry Baumchen

    Absolutely Jerry, of course when I typed that it seemed that guy was stuck on something or another.

    Kind of like when there was a 8 or 10 thing reply on wether Dawnmarie was wearing her draws backwards or forward, if she was a girl, how do we know if she’s a girl… I mean damn Justin knows who Dawnmarie is. He knows her husband he knows who I am etc. why are we fighting about if Dawnmarie is a girl? I understood easily what she meant she said avatar she meant her DFWAJG thing. People generally know what that means, and who on the planet doesn’t know Dawnmarie anyway.

    Jerry, please excuse my exaggeration in the above scenario

  7. 23 minutes ago, jakee said:

    Nothing? Are you sure there isn't something about having a firearm in their hand that will cause a weak person to lose their ability to reason?

    Jack im sorry I don’t understand “Nothing?” Im not sure what you’re asking there.

  8. 5 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:


    Going on nothing more than BV's postings, he & I are nothing alike.  Other than being white males.


    I knew the guy, and I can say without a doubt he and I were nothing alike, it is why I stated what I did but it did not satisfy some folks.

    like if say i’m not Chinese. I know what I am and am not. I knew billy I am not like billy. In any way.

    The rest Jerry are things that got out of control with the wild accusations and politics and everything else. I certainly do not intend to attack or disrespect anyone yourself included.

    When I said I was leaving the thread it seemed that we agreed on some things maybe not so much on others, and I figured that was all I had to offer. Only to come back to see it went straight to politics which in my opinion has nothing to do with nothing.

    Also attacks and slander towards the United States of America. I’m proud to be an American, I’m not going to apologize to anyone for being an American. I certainly never came on here and starting trash talking anyones country.

  9. 13 minutes ago, Stumpy said:

    If someone asked me that now? No of course not. But I have now known enough people who have gone through horrible shit like this to understand that if it happens to you, you don't have any choice in the matter, and you probably don't even realise what is happening. It's got nothing to do with being weak, or cowardly, or any of those other words that are used to stigmatise people with mental health issues. It's an illness, to do with brain chemistry.

    People suffering from depression can't "cheer up" or "snap out of it". If you have never been down that road you can't understand what it's like.

    The thing that has changed over the last probably 20 years or so, is that we are beginning to understand how commonplace this is.


    Yes positively I agree with all of this that you just wrote 100% 

    and as I stated I was more or less referencing the act which I don’t think anyone can disagree is pretty crazy and inexcusable.

    What you wrote is what I believe it comes down to in the end, what drives the individual to carry out the horrific act(s). It is why I stated that the object used to carry out the act(s) in the midst of the trauma does not in and of itself have everything to do with what’s going on. 

  10. 18 minutes ago, Stumpy said:

    Now you are starting to get it. Even people who think they are are completely normal (like you) can have something happen to them that ends up with them turning their guns on their loved ones.

    if you think that this can't happen to you, you are in denial.

    I get that brother but I mean damn if somebody asks me if I could kill my children and my wife of fucking course the answer is fuck no never under any circumstances absolutely not.

    how would you answer that question? And please forgive me stumpy it’s been probably 10yrs+ since I’ve been on here I don't recall if you had a wife and kids or if you made some since or whatever.

    brother to be honest with you though I’m not sure that I can think any other way on that particular thing.

    I mean what do you do wake up in the morning and say “today is not the day I’m going to kill my kids and my wife” I don’t even want to think of some crazy ass shit like that.

    that’s a solid hell no any kind of way 




  11. 7 minutes ago, billvon said:

    So you know for sure he wasn't having a psychotic break?  Wasn't drunk or on drugs?  He just woke up and decided to become a murdering scumbag?

    Ah I see where you are with that.

    The act of killing all of your girls regardless of any circumstances is inexcusable in my opinion, because of his final acts is why I used those words, it was not my intentions to suggest in any way that he was that prior to the massacre 

    perhaps better stated, in the end he was that.

  12. 4 minutes ago, billvon said:

    So you were there and know exactly what happened?  Then tell us how it transpired.

    I didn’t mean to suggest I was at the murder scene bill. That response was in reference to the other things you mentioned in your post. 

    im not sure what being at the murder scene has come up for maybe I misunderstood something or you did im not sure what being at the murder scene has to do with anything 

    what I meant by this statement you quoted is I consider a person who kills their children and wife a murdering scumbag 

  13. 4 minutes ago, kallend said:

    Apparently English isn't your first language.

    I’ve already explained this to you in another post do you not recall my answer?

    I’ve explained my position and asked if you could explain yours but you just keep on attacking 

    attack, attack, attack

  14. 9 minutes ago, billvon said:

    Right.  When you do it - decide he is a "murdering scumbag" who "fucks with people and their shit constantly" and "his entire family  . . .are all democrats"  or some such - it's perfectly justified, even though you don't know his voter registration or what happened that day.  But when others do it to you, it's unreasonable.

    Treat others as you want to be treated.

    Bill I knew billy personally I’m not sure if you were aware of that. I’m not speculating on none of that I knew that dude.

    the murdering scumbag part were words I used because of the horror of his acts killing children and women 


  15. 11 minutes ago, kallend said:

    Do you ever stop to think about what you write?

    What about you John? Do you ever stop and think about what you write? 

    apparently we disagree about something in that phrase that, a gun had everything to do with what billy did. Do you care to share your position on that?  maybe we can figure out where we disagree instead of you attacking me.

    I don’t agree with that statement because as I have previously stated, billy could have done what he did with anything really a lawnmower blade or whatever. So that is why I disagree that the object he used to commit murder had everything to do with what he did.

  16. 20 minutes ago, olofscience said:

    Actually, I said "definitely very calm" - sarcastically.

    And what I said afterwards was that you lied about being willing to turn in your guns. You need better reading comprehension.

    In another post you accused me of being like billy, by doing so you’re basically calling me a murdering scumbag that kills women and children, and fucks with people and their shit constantly, kind of like what you’re doing 

    And then you followed that up and now you’re calling me a liar with some bullshit that you typed out and put my name to it 

    look man I’ve told no lies and I’m not some murdering piece of shit please leave me be and focus on the topic this is like the 50th time in the past hour I’ve told you to leave me alone. Stop playing with me 

  17. 9 minutes ago, kallend said:

    Your credibility goes down with every post you make, and that one is a prime example.

    You'd do better to just stop digging.

    How so?? And what am I digging ???

     The man killed his children and his wife how did owning a gun have “everything” to do with that John?

  18. 5 minutes ago, jakee said:

    So being a democrat, which had nothing to do with the murders, makes him like us. But being a gun owner, which had everything to do with the murders, makes him nothing like you?


    I know you feel like you were attacked first and that’s fair - but you can see why that doesn’t make sense, right?

    I wouldn’t say him owning a gun had everything to do with the murders. So no, I do not follow your logic 

  19. 3 minutes ago, olofscience said:

    He basically told me to kill myself :rofl: turning out well isn't he?

    You basically told me that I’m like some murdering scumbag that kills women and children and fucks with people and their shit… was I supposed to congratulate you??

  20. 3 minutes ago, billvon said:

    OK great.  Perhaps you could allow others the same choice, and not assign them to the party that wins your argument for you after their death.

    This is interesting that you mention bill because I feel that is exactly what some other posters were doing based on pure speculation or by deductive reasoning from some of Billy’s posts from who knows when and what billy was up to. 

    Then using some more speculation mixed with pure bullshit and throw my name in and say I’m like billy.

    im nothing like billy