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I read both your thread and Bill's comments related to the RSL shackle. It might not be the perfect answer, but would be better than the snaps. It might be hard to see how the snaps would come undone, but they do. Again, not really frequently under normal conditions, but more than I would prefer. The routing is simple, and I triple check it every time. I do not blame my blown wing on the rodeo, on the design...that was an extreme situation. The other two where caused by rather normal flight modes. One was the result of an aggressive arm opening after exit, but the other was normal flight. The good thing is, that the Prodigy is still EASY to control with a blown wing. So, it is not a real safety issue, just a nuisance. I'm still a big PF fan! The Prodigy is a great first suit and has proven to be easily flockable with more difficult to use intermediate suits (i.e. Classics ,GTI's, Raptors, etc). My new Phacro should arrive soon! I'm psyched! - - - I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today.

Think about the RSL shackle concept. (The small stainless type..not the big o' bronze one's) It would be a much more secure alternative compared to just adding another snap. - - - I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today.

I'm not sure the picture helped me figure it out, but I'm guessing you had a blown wing. I've had it happen 3 times in 22 flights. Once right after exit (probably due to an overly aggressive opening of the arm wings), once on a rodeo (understandably caused by the riders legs pushing on the bottom of the wing), and once when just cruising along in straight flight(unexplained). I always check the rigging closely (at least 3 times). A blown wing is not that big of a deal on a skydive...it definitely hurts the performance and will induce a turn if not compensated for. I think PF should consider using the small stainless RSL shackles instead of the loop and snap design. I've thought of having my rigger mod mine, but it really hasn't been a high priority. Nonetheless, I still love the Prodigy and could not imagine a better first suit. - - - I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today.

Off subject a bit, but I would like to note/agree that the Prodigy is quite impressive given its wing size. I have been flocking quite succesfully with a guy with a BM-GTI and another with a TS-Raptor. In fact, on the max flight dives we have done, the Prodigy has allowed me to fly considerably further than the GTI and quite a bit further than the Raptor. - - - I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today.

The end of this video has the PD Factory team doing Mr. Bills. And the swooping and whipeouts before that are pretty cool too. http://www.performancedesigns.com/pdzone/videos_feelinggood.asp - - - I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today.

MAn you sound like a NOOB.. It's called 'Snore, not E'nore LOL The great thing is you can dress like yourself. Damn! I knew that too. Negative cool points. - - - I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today.

Me too! But I'm serious! It is to f'ing hot in LV. I went too E'nore last weekend and will be there this Saturday too. I might make it to the Poker Run...we'll see. - - - I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today.

Unless you're in Nevada. But yeah, you're right, the FAA has the final word. Still, I'm personally a fan of the BSRs. Blues, Dave What? What do you mean the BSR's are law in NV? What's your reference for this? - - - I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today.

So awesome! Loic seems to be really pushing the envelope today. It is amazing that Patrick has already done what is currently cutting edge. That re-entry is amazing. - - - I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today.

Watching these Flash Movies is also worthwhile as an intro to what you might expect in AFF: http://www.skydiveelsinore.com/jumpstart/index.html - - - I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today.

But if your new and obsessed with skydiving...you'll fly right through it. I think I read it from cover to cover at least twice during AFF and covered the ISP stuff several more times. Other "fun" reads are Brian Germains, The Parachute and its Pilot: http://www.bigairsportz.com/publishing.php#parachute The Riggers Handbook: http://www.parachutemanuals.com/Other/FAA-Handbook-8083-17.pdf Most would consider all of this is TMI for a student...but I ate it up and it satiated my obsession during the wing between AFF jumps. I have re-read Brian's book the most. It is a wealth of knowledge. Enjoy! - - - I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today.

Nice example! I don't think he will get it, but good example! - - - I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today.

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"When in doubt...whip it out!" - - - I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today.

I would have CHOPPED IT! I think you made the right decision. You chopped at 1,400...you did not want to burn anymore alti f'n with it. You did the right thing. No use second guessing it. Yes, it may have flown straight after f'ing with it a bit more...but now your landing your "leg breaker" canopy on rears. Which I assume you have not thoroughly practiced. (or worse...if it doesn't fly straight...your now chopping below 1K) F it! It was ugly...you were low...get the hell out of there and chop it! Good choice! To the guy who said the reserve opening was slow...look at the alti read out on the top left...the reserve opened in like 120ft....that's fast. Oh yeah...listen to AFFI...on the BEER comment...

I second the recomedation to demo the Pilot, Safire2 and Sabre2 before buying. All are similar...I preferred the Pilot and all companies have a good demo program. The Safire demo cost more, but it is worth it to know before you buy. At least, demo the Pilot and Sabre2 first. - - - I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today.

Atair...right? - - - I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today.

http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=89024&hourly=1&yday=131&weekday=Saturday Damn it's already hot as hell! What the heck does -1% humidity mean? - - - I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today.

I think you might be right. I had a physical for work last year and my hearing ranked as extremely good. And that's after 4 years of working at the end of runway while F-15s took off in full afterburner. The funniest thing about the whole thing is that my wife swears I'm deaf! - - - I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today.

I've done several WS style pulls without a WS and have not noticed that my openings were particularly hard. I wonder if your hard opening was due to something else? - - - I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today.

I would have to say you should wait a long while before donning an S3. I broke the rules and started wingsuiting with only 115 or so jumps. However, I used a Prodigy which is MUCH simpler to fly and deal with situations than an S3 (or any other suit for that matter). You sound a bit like me in your early obsession with tracking and WS'ing. I did over 50 tracking dives in my first 100 jumps (mostly solo but also a few 2, 3, and 4 ways). Try to get someone to do a tracking dive with you. Flying next to someone is rad and will give you a good feel for how well certain body positions effect your flight. I'm sure many will say that my progression into wingsuiting wasn't ideal, but it is certainly a bit more conservative and 'safer' than hoping in an S3 at

And the web-site is messed up. Lots of bad links. - - - I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today.

Looks remarkably similar to the Vampire. - - - I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today.

Good to know! Thanks all. That was my concern, being able to grab them if my exit position required not holding them on exit. Does PF offer demos? Who admin's the demo's? Morpheus? - - - I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today.

Found this after a search... http://www.crmojo.com/adobepdf/fjccanopy.pdf Good stuff. Any other info resources? - - - I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday and I love today.