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All I hear is mostly a bunch of inactivists arguing that hook turns be allowed, after all, it is the canopy pilots fault if he makes himself dead righ? Then you have the hard right that want to ban high performance landings to seperate landing areas. Too many have come to accept that death is a part of this sport when it does not have to be. I have had more than enough, like many others who have buried a few friends. I am all for segregated landing areas. Maybe we need to look at exit order in regards to canopy size/landing manuvers............. _________________________________________ Twin Otter N203-Echo,29 July 2006 Cessna P206 N2537X, 19 April 2008 Blue Skies Forever

Scarlet O'Hara is a false paralell. Take riding motorcycles. I live to ride agressively. I will not, however weave in and out of traffic at high speed. I will save the knee-dragging for the track and keep to the back country roads - out of traffic. I will not ride with squids. Dragons tail, Deal's Gap (sort of an Eloy for motorcycles) is hot with idioits. I won't ride there because of this reason. It is a great place to ride - it has just become unsafe due to the ammount of stupidity that occurs there. I would compare a swooper doing a high performance landing at a new DZ in traffic to a stunter weaving in and out of traffic. If you ever have a chance to go to a motorcycle track, you will see a rider or two with a t-shirt over their leathers. That means that they are riding for the first time at a track. We know how to avoid those riders. They are alower than the rest of us and we give them room. I respect the dangers of skydiving. I have no problems stretching my personal limits. I am not carrying an online picket sign. I can accept risk. I cannot, however take unnecessary risk. If I want to endanger myself, I will. I will not endanger others. If other people are being stupid, I will avoid them. Quantum Leap is my home DZ. I had been in the sport a year when the plane crashed. I will fly with Scott ANYTIME. Eloy is an awesome place, I won't deny that. I just don't want to jump there...... _________________________________________ Twin Otter N203-Echo,29 July 2006 Cessna P206 N2537X, 19 April 2008 Blue Skies Forever

I am not scared of Eloy. I won't go into combat without a clean weapon and my body armor. Yea, there are risks. I accept them. But with the canopy traffic issues, I would rather jump elsewhere. I can only do so much to keep myself safe without having to worry about someone burning into me on a high performance landing. I fly a slower canopy and try to be one of the last to land, so I am not in anyone elses way. Funny, I still have a jump ticket in my log book from Eloy. My parents live about 40 minutes away from Eloy. Maybe my mind will change in the coming months - I never want to be close minded about anything. It has been more that I could imagine these past 6 months. I have known 6 people that have died in this sport. Kinda makes me think of being in Iraq, though there was alot more death........ After the plane crash, all I wanted was for Quantum Leap to open again - and two amazing people did just that, right around Christmas (go figure) ----- Maybe I can ask for a fatality free season as well...... _________________________________________ Twin Otter N203-Echo,29 July 2006 Cessna P206 N2537X, 19 April 2008 Blue Skies Forever

So, I just don't want to jump at Eloy again. I will still skydive. 2 years and 80 jumps. Well, I am currently serving active duty in the Army. I work 12 hour shifts. When the plane crashed, I slowed down. Especially after I crashed the motorcycle. I will get past 100 jumps this year, maybe even wrap my hands around a coach rating. Still won't jump at Eloy, though. The one thing my friends associate with me is that I don't have issues with fear. I live for adrenaline - skydiving has been the best thing for that. That and the amazing people I have had the fortune to call my friends. I am having a hard time believing that no one else feels the way I do................. _________________________________________ Twin Otter N203-Echo,29 July 2006 Cessna P206 N2537X, 19 April 2008 Blue Skies Forever

Fair enough. Plane crash or canopy collision? Neither if you ask me. As for carnage, yea, I have seen more than enough. I was at Eloy on Dec 24th. I landed on the alternate landing area because it was a bit busy in the main landing area. I stopped jumping because I had a "bad feeling". Am I being close minded? Yes. I really am not interested in seeing let alone hearing of any more people dying in this sport. I have had enough. I miss my friends very much - as much as all of you miss yours. My post was emotionally charged, but it did bring about some interesting points. I feel there is something wrong at Eloy. I am not saying that it os a bad DZ. I got my A card signed off there in Dec 2005. I like the school, the wind tunnel and the facilities. We need to not let death catch up to us. As skydivers we have an obligation to cheat him. Right? I do know that I have not gone to my last Skydiver funeral..............unfortunately. _________________________________________ Twin Otter N203-Echo,29 July 2006 Cessna P206 N2537X, 19 April 2008 Blue Skies Forever

4 fatalities in - what - 3 months? Something can't be going right if this kind of shit happens. What does it take to keep your head about you and exercise some sound judgement? Mistakes happen, I know I have made my fair share - but dying over a bad decision? I lost 4 friends last year in a plane crash - it sickens me to read the incidents forum and hear that this is happening WAY too often - even at all. We should not be leaving this sport by burning in and having everyone else "discussing" our incident on DZ.COM. I made my first skydive 2 years ago - changed my life. I want to jump for a long time. Eloy will no longer be a safe place for me to jump. _________________________________________ Twin Otter N203-Echo,29 July 2006 Cessna P206 N2537X, 19 April 2008 Blue Skies Forever

If this boogie is going to be anything like Safety Day - I will need to bring more beer........ QL is off to a great start!!! I am hearing very good things about that beech. Gonna be nice to get to 13-14k instead of 10k....... _________________________________________ Twin Otter N203-Echo,29 July 2006 Cessna P206 N2537X, 19 April 2008 Blue Skies Forever

Hope this does not get canceled at the last minute, everyone arrives - and the DZ is clozed for the day.................... Looks like the weather is going to cooperate, if just a bit on the cool side. _________________________________________ Twin Otter N203-Echo,29 July 2006 Cessna P206 N2537X, 19 April 2008 Blue Skies Forever

XNXX.com something for everyone. Livelink.com great vids _________________________________________ Twin Otter N203-Echo,29 July 2006 Cessna P206 N2537X, 19 April 2008 Blue Skies Forever

Hey, you got me on video............. Reminds me of the song by Adam Sandler "Medium Pace" _________________________________________ Twin Otter N203-Echo,29 July 2006 Cessna P206 N2537X, 19 April 2008 Blue Skies Forever

It is stupid for these people to resign. WHat does that accomplish? Running from the problem then passing the buck to the next guy to take over? This action will be laughed at someday. Polichickens running around like something got cut off - and the ones that did the cutting just sit back and watch..... _________________________________________ Twin Otter N203-Echo,29 July 2006 Cessna P206 N2537X, 19 April 2008 Blue Skies Forever

.17 hmr, .243 win, .270 win, 300 WM, .416 rigby _________________________________________ Twin Otter N203-Echo,29 July 2006 Cessna P206 N2537X, 19 April 2008 Blue Skies Forever

That animal was killed as a trophy. Trophy hunters are assholes. Reminds me of that vid of a deer kicking that hunters ass. Still makes me laugh after all these years. I enjoy deer meat, I would probably enjoy elk as well. No need to destroy an animal like that, though. _________________________________________ Twin Otter N203-Echo,29 July 2006 Cessna P206 N2537X, 19 April 2008 Blue Skies Forever

I am giving up sobriety and celebacy.....it is going to be a rough couple weeks. _________________________________________ Twin Otter N203-Echo,29 July 2006 Cessna P206 N2537X, 19 April 2008 Blue Skies Forever

I see nothing in those pictures that I would find unattractive. I am impressed with these women that they have decided to do this. IMHO they all are sexy. All the best in your efforts!!! _________________________________________ Twin Otter N203-Echo,29 July 2006 Cessna P206 N2537X, 19 April 2008 Blue Skies Forever

She told me it was just skydiving. I told her she was just a girl. _________________________________________ Twin Otter N203-Echo,29 July 2006 Cessna P206 N2537X, 19 April 2008 Blue Skies Forever

Bears lost 29-17. Waste of ecectricity......... _________________________________________ Twin Otter N203-Echo,29 July 2006 Cessna P206 N2537X, 19 April 2008 Blue Skies Forever

It is SQUID, not quid. I saw this pic originally in an email titled: The difference between American bikers and Iraqi bikers. The other pic was of an Iraqi on a moped with a goat hanging over the handle bars......... _________________________________________ Twin Otter N203-Echo,29 July 2006 Cessna P206 N2537X, 19 April 2008 Blue Skies Forever

Taste the Magic.... _________________________________________ Twin Otter N203-Echo,29 July 2006 Cessna P206 N2537X, 19 April 2008 Blue Skies Forever

Borat's Japanese cousins....... _________________________________________ Twin Otter N203-Echo,29 July 2006 Cessna P206 N2537X, 19 April 2008 Blue Skies Forever

Areosmith.... "Dude look like a lady...." _________________________________________ Twin Otter N203-Echo,29 July 2006 Cessna P206 N2537X, 19 April 2008 Blue Skies Forever

Parents need to beat their kids. Period - end of debate. Little shits need to have their asses beat if they step out of line. Children should be seen and not heard in this situation. How about disturbing the peace, public nuciance??? _________________________________________ Twin Otter N203-Echo,29 July 2006 Cessna P206 N2537X, 19 April 2008 Blue Skies Forever

The trailer is now undergoing therapy...... New Yard Nome for sale by Redneck Collectables.... _________________________________________ Twin Otter N203-Echo,29 July 2006 Cessna P206 N2537X, 19 April 2008 Blue Skies Forever

Good grief, here I go..... Stewart Paramount _________________________________________ Twin Otter N203-Echo,29 July 2006 Cessna P206 N2537X, 19 April 2008 Blue Skies Forever

Hello Kim! I gave you the T-shirt so when you return to Quantum Leap you can wear it on your skydive. I am very pleased to hear that your recovery is going well and that you are healing up. I look forward to seeing you and your family in July. Thank you for posting. Do keep us up to date. Steve _________________________________________ Twin Otter N203-Echo,29 July 2006 Cessna P206 N2537X, 19 April 2008 Blue Skies Forever