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And you brought up homicides, what's you point? Action©Sports

Dude, it's not an awful truth. It's an awful deception. He's selectively picking out very specific examples of what can and does go wrong within our system. Nobody said it's perfect because it's not. Far from it. But, it's by no means representative of our health care system as a whole. Or don't you think we can find equally reprehensible cases within the socialist healthcare systems?[email] Did you ever notice that Michael Moore never shared any examples from personal experience? Wonder if he travels to Canada when he needs to see a doctor? Action©Sports

Well, we can't expect him to accept anything as fact unless it comes with Nancy Pelosi's personal stamp of approval........ Action©Sports

I just answered the question about why Swedes outlive Americans by 3 years . No, you didn't. You just threw out a wild suggestion with zero supporting data to back it up. Sorry, I've lived there and dealt with their health care system first hand. Have you? Action©Sports

And you brought up homicides. Why can't you just discuss the actual subject without trying to divert everyone's attention from it? I take that as an admission that you can't find anyone here proposing a gun ban. Cool! Thanks. Where did I say that anyone here proposed a gun ban? Action©Sports

Gee, that response was hard to predict coming from a whiney liberal like yourself Action©Sports

And you brought up homicides. Why can't you just discuss the actual subject without trying to divert everyone's attention from it? Action©Sports

Yeah they do....the Discovery Channel ruined it for me with that show about Box Jelly Fish and Irukandji though Action©Sports

Plenty of material has been written about the correlation between gun ownership and violent crime. Feel free to read some for yourself. http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp http://www.truepatriot.com/crime_stats_page.html This is a quick copy from someone else who copiled much of the info here. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071018172134AA4qRbk I just added additional info taken from the above mentioned web sites. 20% of U.S. Violent Crime occurs in 4 cities: New York, Chicago, Washington D.C., & Detroit. These cities have near prohibition laws regarding handgun ownership. 1976- Washington, D.C. enacted one of the most restrictive gun control laws in the nation. Effect: Murder has risen 134% while the national murder rate has dropped 2%. New York City - Up 15% between 1998 and 1999. The SAME timeframe that new handgun restrictions came into effect. In 1986, Florida Adopted the Right-To-Carry law, allowing citizens to carry firearms. The results from 1987-1996: Homicide Rate: DECREASED 36% The entire U.S -.4% Homicide by Firearm: DECREASED 37% The entire U.S +15% Homicide by Handgun: DECREASED 41% The entire U.S +24% Americans use firearms to defend themselves from criminals at least 764,000 times a year. This figure is the lowest among a group of 9 nationwide surveys done by organizations including Gallup and the Los Angeles Times. In 1982, a survey of imprisoned criminals found that 34% of them had been "scared off, shot at, wounded or captured by an armed victim." 221,443 concealed carry licenses were issued in Florida between October of 1987 and April of 1994. During that time, Florida recorded 18 crimes committed by licensees with firearms. As of 1998, nationwide, there has been 1 recorded incident in which a permit holder shot someone following a traffic accident. The permit holder was not charged, as the grand jury ruled the shooting was in self defense. As of 1998, no permit holder has ever shot a police officer. There have been several cases in which a permit holder has protected an officer's life. In the early/mid 1990's, criminals on parole or early release from prison committed about 5,000 murders, 17,000 rapes, and 200,000 robberies a year 93% of Police officers believe law-abiding citizens should be able to purchase a firearm for self-defense or sport. Hell, even John Stossel did a piece on guns in America http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyoLuTjguJA I'm not quite sure why it's so hard for people to understand that regulating and restricting law abiding citizen's rights to keep and bear arms does nothing but shift the balance of power in favor of violent offenders. Criminals will carry weapons regardless of the law. Don't believe it, just ask them. Violent offenders prefer unarmed victims because they make for easy prey. It's not really a hard thing to wrap your mind around...... Action©Sports

Ooooo, watch out Donald Trump. Funny how that works, isn't it? You can carry a gun and use it in defense of Government property and personnel but, use that same weapon in defense of your home and family and you're a criminal. Sounds great.... Action©Sports

Man, that looks like fun! Action©Sports

Yeah, I know. It's still a pretty sad reality though. Action©Sports

I just answered the question about why Swedes outlive Americans by 3 years and you started crying that there is always an excuse for Americas poor performance. You're the one that brought up homicides, not me. Sometimes the truth hurts. Deal with it. Action©Sports

There's always an excuse for poor performance by the USA, whether it be homicides or healthcare. WTF is that supposed to mean? I take it you haven't noticed our morbidly obese population in this country? McDonald's kills far more people with their food than those scary "Assault Weapons" you're always bitching about. Why don't you organize a ban on fast food? That would save far more people from certain death than any gun ban in history. Action©Sports

Sounds like a made-up fact to me - have a reference? I'm not sure of that fact either but, I can tell you from first hand experience, their health care system is a total disaster. The simple fact is that the government makes an overcomplicated mess of everything it lays it's hands on. That's not just our government, it's every government. Just think of going to the DMV.....that's how they'll run our new "Universal Healthcare System" too...... Action©Sports

A birthday jump (has to be naked, those are the rules) when it's 7 degrees at altitude? Sorry man, I just lie and say I did Action©Sports

You have me there, I've never lived in Sweden - or was it just your mother that lived there? OTOH, one person's experience in one thing, but deciding what the entire population should have might be better suited to statistics. BTW - cost per capita doesn't factor in how the money was generated - just what it costs, so regardless of where they got the money, it's still cheaper. Well I lived there for about 12 years and my mother still lives there. I don't care what Wikipedia says, nothing in Sweden is cheap. Sure, you may think health care is "free" because it only costs you maybe a $120 copay when go to the hospital but, when you're paying say, $125 for a pair of Levis and $80 for a bottle of Jack, and $10 or $12 for a loaf of bread, nothing, and I mean nothing, is cheap. Action©Sports

People die waiting for healthcare in this country, too. Many of them because they can't afford it. You're pointing out a small portion of the population, most of those elderly, who have what would be incurable diseases even 50 years ago, as a justification for not paying for any healthcare for anyone. Even people in countries with socialized medicine frequently have the option of paying for better healthcare, if they have a terminal illness, and if they can afford it. People in this country have to pay for all healthcare for colds, broken bones, and terminal illnesses. Most of us have been to the doctor several times in our lives, have paid tens of thousands (or hundreds of thouands if you're older and have a family) in health insurance premiums, and have had to spend a fortune on medication because of our "capitalistic medicine". It makes more sense to treat the majority of the population for curable illnesses (for free), than to force everyone to pay inordinate amounts of money (many of them will opt for not getting healthcare) to justify a small percentage of people that might survive a difficult surgery. BTW - in Sweden, the "sucky" healthcare lends itself to their citizens living three years longer (on average) than in the US, half the infant mortality of the US, 50% more doctors per person than the US and 10% more nurses, all at a cost of 60% per capita of what the US pays. LMAO Yeah, health care is CHEAP in Sweden too. And they have more doctors and nurses. I wonder why my own mother had to wait nine fucking months to get an x-ray of her wrist after her doctor suspected she had carpal tunnel syndrome??? Explain that please. And it's not cheaper in Sweden. Try paying 35% income tax as well as a 25% sales tax (including on your food) and then come talk to me about cheap. Reading shit on Wikipedia is one thing, living it is another. And by the way, it's not their excellent health care that lends itself to Swedes outliving Americans by three years, it's their Diet. Action©Sports

Thanks. It's an 08. It's the final year of production too since they're moving to the 1198 in 09. Action©Sports

Eh, it'll turn up eventually. I order a lot of m/c parts online and USPS has been pretty good about getting them to me quickly. They have lost stuff before but, it's always turned up eventually. Action©Sports

That's an easy one 1 2 3 Action©Sports

Universal healthcare? No thanks. Been there, done that. Healthcare in Sweden sucks bad. People die while waiting for care and that's no joke. Emergency medicine is actually good but, anything chronic and you might as well kill yourself. I'll pay for my insurance, thank you very much. Feel free to watch John Stossel compare the reality of the American Health Care system to Michael Moore's distorted view. The clips are only about 6 min each. Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Part 4 Part 5 Part 6 Action©Sports

Sweet....that water is freakin' chilly too. Me and 8 friends went white water rafting on the last available day (which was towards the end of October) and it was cold as all hell. At least you forgot about your neck for a few seconds though Action©Sports

Man, that's a lot of bickering..... The simple answer is to get the most powerful flash you can afford, and use it selectively during your first attempts at jumping with it. Getting the right settings takes some experimentation since guide numbers don't really apply in freefall as they do on the ground. There is nothing for the light to reflect off of except the subject itself. Settings that look perfect on the ground will end up under exposed in freefall. The cool thing about a flash is that you know for certain that your shutter fired when the flash goes off. You can take your time framing your subject while taking one picture at a time. Sure, it kicks ass to have a quick cycling flash set up in freefall, it really does. But, you don't really need it if you just take your time. You've got at least 60 seconds - that's 10 good shots in one skydive if you play your cards right Action©Sports

If you're going to use it in freefall, 580 no question. The more power the better.... Action©Sports