Mockingbird

That's good, Bill. I hope it made you smile. You're right, I do believe the Bible is part of the right path. It shows us the right path. As David wrote: "Thy word is a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path." There's nothing wrong with the Bible. The problem is with people who treat it like it's not literature but who hold it to unreasonable standards; for example, not allowing it to contain literary devices like figures of speech. That's a terribly amateur strategy for trying to make it look untrustworthy. But yes, I do believe it is an integral part of the right path, Bill. Blue skies & happy jitters ~Mockingbird "Why is there something rather than nothing?"

It's a metaphor. The summit represents God. The different paths represent different religions or spiritual philosophies. Well then, it's not a fitting metaphor. How do you know that your summit represents the same God for all religions? If they directly contradict one another, they can't all be "right paths." Blue skies & happy jitters ~Mockingbird "Why is there something rather than nothing?"

A very poor analogy, Bill. And as for the old canard about the bible contradicting itself, baloney. Maybe you just need help in reading it. Blue skies & happy jitters ~Mockingbird "Why is there something rather than nothing?"

How about Simon Greenleaf's definition? Why can't you guys just say, "I don't accept what you point to as evidence--- even the eyewitness testimony of the gospel writers-- because I have a philosphical bias against the existence of a supernatural being"? Blue skies & happy jitters ~Mockingbird "Why is there something rather than nothing?"

You think that's illogical?! Each one of those religions has the same amount of evidence to back them up and each claim to be the one true religion and make promises that will only be fulfilled once you die. That's what I'm saying. They contradict each other, therefore they can't all be true. One has returned from death. But you don't believe him. Blue skies & happy jitters ~Mockingbird "Why is there something rather than nothing?"

There are many paths up the mountain, but they all reach the same summit. Be we aren't talking about mountains. We're talking about truth-- the truth about God, who he is or isn't, life, death, etc. Blue skies & happy jitters ~Mockingbird "Why is there something rather than nothing?"

Concur enthusiastically! Would you direct us, i.e., specify links & citations, to the repeatable, reproducible, physical public evidence "indicating design in the universe" about which you write? Or do you see physical processes that follow physical laws as evidence of design? Thank you. VR/Marg a living cell! Blue skies & happy jitters ~Mockingbird "Why is there something rather than nothing?"

This is illogical. But then relativism always is. How can all paths (religions) be equally valid when they contradict each other (as to how salvation, or whatever, is attained)... which they most certainly do? They're equally valid because the benefit is subjective, whether it be salvation, inner peace, enlightenment, or some sort of free pass through life. Whatever floats your boat. :) linz Good answer, Linz! I've never heard it put that way before, but it's true, the benefit IS subjective. For me, however, I want my subjective experience to be based on an objectively true philosophy of life because there are long-term ramifications. I can understand how someone who doesn't believe in life after death would go for whichever philosophy gives them that subjective benefit you're talking about. I would pray that that person would wake up and smell the coffee, tho', and understand that this life is not all there is! Blue skies & happy jitters ~Mockingbird "Why is there something rather than nothing?"

How does it damage science if scientist discount the theory of a creator, because thus so far no evidence exist to support a creator theory?? and dare I ask how is your god/creator theory the "most obvious possibility"?? There is LOTS (to use the technical term ) of evidence indicating DESIGN in the universe. Or have you not discovered that aspect of the universe? When someone who calls himself or herself a scientist ignores that evidence, yes, it most definitely damages his credibility. Thank God, not all scientists DO ignore the evidence... some note the evidence but admit that they have a bias and can't let the evidence affect their conclusions (Crick, Jastrow, Dawkins, Lewontin, TNAF). Of course this makes them not entirely objective, and it seems to me that a scientist ought to be objective... but, they are, after all, only human... Blue skies & happy jitters ~Mockingbird "Why is there something rather than nothing?"

This is illogical. But then relativism always is. How can all paths (religions) be equally valid when they contradict each other (as to how salvation, or whatever, is attained)... which they most certainly do? Blue skies & happy jitters ~Mockingbird "Why is there something rather than nothing?"

WoooHOOO, and it only gets better! Blue skies & happy jitters ~Mockingbird "Why is there something rather than nothing?"

I didn't say the beginning HAD to be attibuted to a diety. I said it had to be attributed to a cause. Science may not know what the cause was, but when they close their minds to the most obvious possibility, it damages science's (or rather those who represent science) integrity. Blue skies & happy jitters ~Mockingbird "Why is there something rather than nothing?"

Isn't it incredible???!! Blue skies & happy jitters ~Mockingbird "Why is there something rather than nothing?"

Good luck with your progress. I'm planning another garage sale myself. It's a never ending battle. Gas prices are really making it hard! Blue skies & happy jitters ~Mockingbird "Why is there something rather than nothing?"

Glad you're here, Marcus! Join the world of the permanently broke. Garage sales work well, too! Cool photo! Blue skies & happy jitters ~Mockingbird "Why is there something rather than nothing?"

Esteemed by whom? If they are illogical, presuppose only the natural, and aren't honest? Blue skies & happy jitters ~Mockingbird "Why is there something rather than nothing?"

... said the blind leading the blind. "without a shred of supporting evidence"? That's hyperbole. Some of the best evidence is in logic. If the universe suddenly came into being with NOTHING having existed, matter-wise, what would you say caused its existence? If we bring logic into the equation then you can kiss your silly skygod good bye... but to entertain you for a moment, we dont know that the universe "suddenly" came into being with NOTHING having existed before. The Universe might have always been there. In the same way when believers are asked who created the creator, the common belief is that the creator was always there, so using the same LOGIC then we can say that the universe might have always been there.... You guys are so funny--- you refer to the Big Bang only when it suits your argument at the time. If it doesn't, then you say the universe may NOT have suddenly come into being, that maybe it is eternal. Well, if that were the case, we wouldn't be here because the universe would've petered out by now... The universe shows that it has aged. You can't have it both ways. The only presupposition I need to bring into the argument is that logic and science say that anything that came into being has a cause. I don't even have to believe in God to realize the truth of that statement. Since the universe had a beginning, something had to cause it to come into being. Blue skies & happy jitters ~Mockingbird "Why is there something rather than nothing?"

... said the blind leading the blind. "without a shred of supporting evidence"? That's hyperbole. Some of the best evidence is in logic. If the universe suddenly came into being with NOTHING having existed, matter-wise, what would you say caused its existence? Blue skies & happy jitters ~Mockingbird "Why is there something rather than nothing?"

I may walk in here now and then, but don't get the crazy idea that you can baptize my children... Blue skies & happy jitters ~Mockingbird "Why is there something rather than nothing?"

Great... would you believe that on Sunday morning I'm supposed to be flying into ATL on my way to CLE????? Something tells me I may not make either destination! Blue skies & happy jitters ~Mockingbird "Why is there something rather than nothing?"

That was great. Blue skies & happy jitters ~Mockingbird "Why is there something rather than nothing?"

Hey Steve, I'm with Maadmax. Sure, some things need to be inspected more often. The plane is one thing, my rig is another thing, my soul is... well, you get the idea. But you know what? I LIKE the video and the idea of an "air church video blog." Keep 'em coming! Blue skies & happy jitters ~Mockingbird "Why is there something rather than nothing?"

I received this in an email today and had a good laugh. Good ol' political correctness! Ha ha. Blue skies & happy jitters ~Mockingbird "Why is there something rather than nothing?"

Not a single word. Bummer. Texas... for having three of the largest cities in the U.S., you'd think there would be a wind tunnel somewhere within its borders. Blue skies & happy jitters ~Mockingbird "Why is there something rather than nothing?"

Hey, you! CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR 100TH... I'm right behind you... well, relatively speaking. I hope to reach that number by the end of the year! Blue skies & happy jitters ~Mockingbird "Why is there something rather than nothing?"