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    Please guys - COOL it! Please
    PRETTY PLEASE! This is what shut down the thread before!

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    I 2nd the Motion...all in favor?


    Hey Grumpy d00ds~

    ...ever hear about the time the guy that owns the site shut the WHOLE THING down for a couple/few days because he rightfully felt several certain individuals MUST be loosing their minds to be acting so idiotic on the internet?!

    It was a good move in my opinion, got people to get away from the keyboard of hate and get a little perspective.


    There REALLY ARE people reading through this stuff that are interested in the known facts as well as the possible theories...the idiotically childish bickering & blatant personal attacks add less than nothing.

    They take away credibility and respect for anything 'else' you add to the thread of a positive nature.

    Stuff on the net is kinda there forEVER, ya really want folks years from now paging through thinkin'

    ~ 'What An Asshole' :)



    Well, you tried, it didn't even last one post.
    :S

    Matt
    An Instructors first concern is student safety.
    So, start being safe, first!!!

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    And we all know there is so much - so close to Cal City! :S
    Get the directions to their "California City" skydiving. I can see it now: "Turn right, onto the SR58, to Rte 5 ...then it's only a simple drive (leaving OUT +/- 200 or so miles) to exit blah-blah, and follow the skydiving signs at the bottom of the exit. We're right off the highway". Friggen Skyride strikes again. [:/]


    Yep. Skyride, and every one of their defenders said they turned a new page. In the AFF Exit I see Fort Campbell under them, that is on the TN KY border.

    Any who still work for their DZ's and company, are still criminal, IMO. DZO's who still use their service as well.

    Matt
    An Instructors first concern is student safety.
    So, start being safe, first!!!

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    Would there be so many threads if you didn't post so much?



    Would there be so many posts if people didn't thread so much?



    Well, they do need to stitch together a pattern for their argument.

    Matt
    An Instructors first concern is student safety.
    So, start being safe, first!!!

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    Oct 11, 2012, 1:56 PM
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    On 3/08/90 Duane presented himself and some documents to the Santa Rosa County Drivers License Dept - He was turned away because the documents were insuffient to obtain a drivers license under the name of John C. Collins.

    On 3/09/90 A Hwy Patrol man knocked on my door and presented a picture of Duane on a laminated card the size of a drivers license. He wanted to know if I knew the man - I said yes, but asked what this was all about.

    He explained that the man had tried to obtain a drivers license under the name of John Collins but was refused because of insuffient photo identification.

    They became suspicious and followed him but lost him after the reach another county. They traced the tag and thought he might be my father. I explained it was NOT my father, but my husband and he was 17 yrs older than myself and had just gone on the kidney machine. They asked me if I knew where he was and I lied (not well)That has to sting a bit. that I didn't know.

    I immediately got into my vehicle and went to Pensacola and the shop on Creighton. I told him what had happened and before he could explain - 2 local officers and s Patrolman entered the building. Duane immediately put both hands on the desk....cussing me for turning him in. I told him I knew nothing about this and I was there to find out. They must have followed me.



    Highway Patrol has State wide jurisdiction and would not require any other LE....


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  5. Come on Jo, over half of the "book" references are responses to others, and of the ones he makes, most are in reference, not promotion.

    You "promote" your story harder than any one else here.

    You, and a few others, attack experts in their fields, since it won't line up and support your promotion effort for your story. If you, and others, don't want our opinions, based on the science and facts we know to be true in our fields, don't come here and ask us for help.

    Disrespect DZ? Hmm, a skydivers web site, a thread, that had little to do with skydiving, but lots to do with crime is started, and the skydivers who frequent a skydivers web site, get poo pooed? Odd.

    Matt
    An Instructors first concern is student safety.
    So, start being safe, first!!!

  6. Isn't that kid of like what USAFA does?

    Back on topic, an old Paratrooper or a pilot who did have at least minimal training could explain the chute choices. But we already hashed this out.

    Matt
    An Instructors first concern is student safety.
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    Or if you read section 3, an authorized authority.

    So LEO's, City HR, some PI's, etc, can get a copy.

    Matt



    Matt, just to be clear about this: one of Jo's
    complaints has been she could not get all of
    Duane's "records", whatever "all" means.

    As a former spouse, can she get "all of" Duane's
    military records?

    Maybe you could clarify that for her ...



    As his widow, she would fall under the "next of Kin" clause.

    Matt



    "Next of kin" is a living blood relative, are you sure she would fall under this clause?
    you would think a box for Spouse/Husband would apply?



    Once I was married, JAG had me put my wife on all my SF/DD/DA forms as she was now my immediate "Kin".

    But to be sure, I called Fort Campbell's JAG and asked, Jo qualifies as his widow.

    "Next of kin refers to the nearest blood relatives of a person who has died, including the surviving spouse."

    http://definitions.uslegal.com/n/next-of-kin/

    ^ since not every one can open the .mil links, I attached a open source.

    Matt
    An Instructors first concern is student safety.
    So, start being safe, first!!!

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    Or if you read section 3, an authorized authority.

    So LEO's, City HR, some PI's, etc, can get a copy.

    Matt



    Matt, just to be clear about this: one of Jo's
    complaints has been she could not get all of
    Duane's "records", whatever "all" means.

    As a former spouse, can she get "all of" Duane's
    military records?

    Maybe you could clarify that for her ...



    As his widow, she would fall under the "next of Kin" clause.

    Matt
    An Instructors first concern is student safety.
    So, start being safe, first!!!

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    It's my understanding that all military records are classified, in order to view
    them you need permission from the person in writing to receive any records.
    enlistment records are not classified and can be searched.

    If your not a Family member.....

    I'm sure Matt will have an answer for this.....




    The level of classification has been addressed. That is not normally applied to a record of one serving.

    But to add, one can get records through a request process, a SF form is filled out sent in and then you wait.

    Records for personal will "usually" be limited to duration and locations of service, awards, campaigns, and promotions, etc, actual duty details will be lacking. My 21 years fits on to a two part DD-214, just hits the highlights. Doesn't even include my 225 SL and 3000+ FF Jumps (or test jumps for Development), just says Master Parachutist Badge, and list graduations of the supporting Courses.

    Today, what Duane did (Fraudulent Enlistment), would be near impossible. Back when he did it, easier of course, he lied, simple. He went to a enlistment office not associated with the Navy one, and tried the Army, they needed warm bodies, he was asked simple questions gave simple lies, and enlisted. The back ground checks (finger prints, criminal record, civil issues, etc) would be done by hand, and if even one digit of a ssn or spelling of a name, is off, he could get away with it.

    He would have been treated just like any other boot recruit, sworn in, shipped off to Basic, and upon completion then off to AIT. Some where along that time he got caught as a Fraudulent Enlistee and got put out.

    And looking at his brief Navy and Army time, and records, he received no Parachute Training in either, as well as actual Chemical Warfare (beyond the general basic stuff all SM's got and still get in Basic and recert on annually).

    Matt
    An Instructors first concern is student safety.
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    Females in the Navy were called WAVES, females in the Air Force were called lesbians



    Damnit! Not true! The "were" part...
    And sometimes the "fe" part !



    Um. Not really, Mr Mysogynistic.



    who are those woman supposed to be
    in the picture?



    USAF F-15 Pilots stationed with a Wing out of Alaska.

    Matt
    An Instructors first concern is student safety.
    So, start being safe, first!!!

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    matthewcline,

    Try checking the relative pay and benefits for 1971 and decide how lowly $517 @ month (you know, Kenny’s wages?) may be. This is truly beyond spoon feeding at this point.

    If jump pay in 19…whatever is $50, then you may….just may consider 1949 as similar or lower. It’s not MY data, it is just data. Ownership of information is for the likes of Stalin and other losers.

    You could post some more refined data or everyone could just take your good word for it because "you said so".... just like Knoss. No duplicity there.



    You have completely wondered off of the subject.

    Refresher:
    KC sends a letter, in it he makes the $150 statement. A question was asked about the Jump Pay, I posted a fact, you "poo pooed" it.
    Then posted a pay chart with out Jump Pay listed. While complaining about not having "links" to the fact, you post a link to no fact.
    I posted a link, backing the fact, to appease you, but you decided to try and use the pay chart for a different reason.

    The question was: What was Jump pay in 1946? The answer was given, that should have been the end of it. The info was asked for to verify the validity of the letter quoted. Nothing more.

    Maybe you can stop with the high brow PA's (and direct childish ones too) and just stick to factual discussion for a while?

    Matt
    An Instructors first concern is student safety.
    So, start being safe, first!!!

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    Rather than rely on the memories of the self deluded Walter Mittys who are experts, but never seem to be able to attach a source, from their “Glory Days” when they were cool. I thought I would attach a historical pay scale for all branches of the service. I know, it’s exciting to see the huge salaries ($506 @ month for E-6, more than 10 years) earned from that time frame (1971):

    http://www.military.com/benefits/military-pay/charts/historical-military-pay-rates.html

    There were those who worried about the 90 day, moving window to maintain “Flight Status” in the Air Force, but they were desk jockeys and NCOs (No Chance Outside), who stayed in and were counting the days till they hit 20 years. Hard core aviators NEVER worried about drying out.

    You can actually see where the “Flight Pay” peaks when the average service member could separate and return to the private sector, and make better money and succeed, versus the future DMV clerks who stay in and receive an extra five bucks per month.



    Your link only goes back to 1949, and does not show "Jump Pay"

    http://users.skynet.be/101airborne/clancy/506hist_us.html

    The above link has the $50 a month for Jump pay at that time.

    Self deluded? How about EXPERT in the field, certified as a MASTER PARACHUTIST, Actually. I taught (Including History) and performed the job for over 21 years.

    Matt
    An Instructors first concern is student safety.
    So, start being safe, first!!!

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    The story of Kenny jumping comes from a single letter dated August 4, 1946 from Sendai .........

    From Skipp:

    "“Dear Folks,” Kenny wrote home in one letter dated August 4, 1946, from Sendai. “I went to church this morning. I went last Sunday also. I had more reason to go last Sunday, as after ten months of hibernation, I once again donned a chute and reserve and entered a C-46. I cringed a good deal, but I managed once again to pitch myself into the blast. That jump was worth $150. The nicest thing about the whole affair was that I never had time to worry about it … Don’t get the idea that I didn’t get that certain stomackless [sic] feeling, because I did.”"

    Mr. Blevins quotes this letter in his book, and provides no other Japan letters. Are there any others?

    Kenny was deployed, after his initial training on August 16, 1945. [Ed. note: Japan surrendered on August 12, 1945. Nagasaki was August 9, 1945]

    Looking at the ten month "hibernation" ..maybe this was his first jump after training............



    KC states that the jump was "worth $150". This presumably would be military jump pay. Does anyone know how the jump pay worked in 1946?

    How many jumps did he have to make to receive it? Is jump pay based on making a certain number of jumps per month? Or per quarter? And I assume it was paid at a fixed rate each month.

    Robert99



    Back then, it was $50 a month for Enlisted and $100 a month for Commissioned Officers, IIRC.

    Now it is $150 a month for both.

    The quote, seems to refer to making a jump once every three months (reg is actually 90 days), the requirement to stay on status. So he would be an enlisted man, making one jump every 90 days.

    Other than letters, did the records show up? The pics from earlier would not have been of a Paratrooper.

    Matt
    An Instructors first concern is student safety.
    So, start being safe, first!!!

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    "Didn't McCoy wear a jumpsuit and boots? "
    " someone with just enough experience jumping to be dangerous."

    Christiansen enlisted in the Army in 1944 and was trained as a paratrooper,
    finishing high in his class/group (according to you) does wearing loafers
    sound like something Kenny or an experienced jumper would do? even if
    he didn't jump for years?



    I still don't recall it ever being proven KC WAS trained as a Paratrooper.

    I asked for this several pages back, I don't recall ever seeing it addressed.

    I know It is not your job to prove it, but maybe you saw it if it was posted?

    Matt
    An Instructors first concern is student safety.
    So, start being safe, first!!!

  • Some times during my 21+ years in the Army I didn't wear my uniform, and dressed, and acted, very different than the "norm", as it was part of what my "mission" was at the time.

    Even today, working in the Private Security field, I some times dress and act differently than what people think, again, it is part of the "mission".

    Matt
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    So, start being safe, first!!!

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    Just saw that. They reported it would not be in the publics best interest to bust him. If we turn hi cap mags into art work or sculpture near DC would we get busted? Just wondering about free speech.



    Since those calling for Mr.Gregory to be charged used the arrest of a service member as their example, what is the status and background in that case? and if they are similar why the different standards of enforcement?

    Matt
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    Although once I realized how very few of these threads were active, I did realize what utter Zombies it must have taken to complain about this thread and how it ruins their day. Suburban Zombies always make me laugh. Threadddzzzzzz I need to bitch about your threaddzzzzzzzz, uh… umm.. I mean brainzzzz.



    Jumpers like to bitch about things non jumpers do (such as paying child support and staying sober). Jumpers really go nuts when non jumpers opine about anything related to jumping. Most of the people here aren't jumpers, and we are opining daily about jump related stuff, so ths forum is a target for negative comments and complaints. Just get used to it and thank Q for not acceeding to those who want to quash this forum.

    I cant take any complaints about forum posting volume seriously. It's so easily ignored, bandwidth isnt an issue for text posts and frequent forum posting doesn't overheat or lock up any high quality server chips (because Snow designed them).

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    I would love to kidnap every non jumper who posts to this thread and put them in a nice big safe rig with a huge parachute.... for a frakin reality check....

    BUT... there are not enough adult depends in Washington State for what should have been a fun event like that.:ph34r::ph34r::ph34r:


    I'll AJ for you on this!
    B|
    Matt
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    >It most emphatically did NOT win

    It won. Even though lots of people didn't care, the people who cared overwhelmingly supported it.

    Which is fine; I'd rather that people who have no opinion or who don't care or who don't know what the question is about abstain from voting.



    ^ So far, that is the only honest perspective on the poll results.

    The result is "Yes", if one whats to say the "No Opinion" votes need to be "No" votes, the same argument can be used as "Yes" votes. Reality is the only ones that count are "Yes" or "No", "Yes" won.

    Apathy, is a vote for the one vote majority.

    Matt
    An Instructors first concern is student safety.
    So, start being safe, first!!!