matthewcline

One of Nixon's former assistants wants to talk with you, are you willing to do that?

Not "off the record", not with out prosecution or civil suits (if warranted), but with lawyers, and prosecutors present. Ready now, Bob?

I send this threads contents to the lead Civil Lawyer daily, there you go, the cat is out of the bag. You're focus #1.

Your way out of this, get on record, on TV or Radio and SWEAR with an actual sitting Judge and with all your "notes" in public!

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West will be ignored. Those who need his "command presence" can tune in to Faux News.

This is from HQ. Over and out!

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Allen West, LTC, US ARMY, Ret., is not conceited. He is a retired military officer with a command presence.

You know they have assholes in the military just like in real life, right?

I know it's hard for brainwashed 'patriots' to realise that.

Umm, it is "Over" or "Out", not both, in this case "Out" is the proper one to use.

Just sayin'.

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Jesus was a "wussie pantywaist", although I suppose he did eventually "gather in the cave".

Blues,
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Apparently, you are not familiar with the Passion of the Christ.

And, let's not forget Him kicking the crap out of the money changers at the temple or telling Peter to sell his cloak and buy a sword.

So he didn't like bankers, and preferred edge weapons to guns (being an omniscient, omnipresent god, he'd know about guns). He also gave welfare to the hungry, supported the government, told people to pay their taxes, healed the sick without charge, turned water into alcohol when the booze ran out at a party, and told only those without sin to punish sinners. Doesn't sound remotely like a conservative.

Where is YOUR proof for that speculation?

Umm, The Bible.


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He was an avid photographer and used a camera with a titanium shutter that would leave shard traces of titanium on the clip on tie he wore

I'm not a camera guy, but aren't shutters pretty well protected behind the lens? How would they shed titanium on a tie?

377

Would a camera of the period be able to shed the material during a film unload/reload?

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You might want to re-post this one over at the infamous DB Cooper thread next door. Supposedly, Cooper jumped a 26 or 28 foot round (depending on what version of the story you support) out of an NB-6 container. I would add the pictures, too.

Kind of an apples and oranges comparison though.

Cool jump though PC!

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Romney supporters sign the checks on the front.

Obama supporters sign the checks on the back.

And ya, I did just say that.

If it helps you sleep at night, keep believing that. It won't make it true, though.

Says the man living in a state where the large minority just voted a massive tax increase on the small minority.

But hey, whatever makes you sleep at night.....

You do realize that blue states tend to subsidize red states, right? I guess those conservatives aren't signing the side of the check you thought they were signing.

And yet you vote for taxes you dont have to pay.....

Tsk tsk.

There wasn't a tax issue on the ballot I cast. And I'm pretty sure I don't live where you think I live.

I did vote for the presidential candidate who recognizes that the country cannot afford the Bush tax cuts and that supply-side economic policy does not promote economic growth (nor is there any reason to expect that it would).

Same cuts the POTUS has extended, and says can still be extended, with a small exception or not, maybe?

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"Obviously you do not have the records nor access to them. Go back and read my postings. I requested them and I am the only next of kin - but a no GO. "

a background check is a very simple task, this will give you every single arrest made, as for the prints you keep saying they have the wrong ones? what would make the difference in your belief? you will only respond by stating Cooper was print phobic?

you offered $100 for something to do with Marla and then turn around and state you don't have the money to check on the employment records of Duane's brother?

you seem to always put some sort of clause in everything you say, go to the Public Library and use there computer since you can only afford dial up? take the $100 you offered on Marla and get a full background check on Duane or his brother? 17 years and you have not done anything really? you argue with us being wrong, you argue and complain about the FBI being wrong, how about Jo being wrong?

it seems that when you are confronted and things don't match up you get the "Knoss virus" it doesn't paint a pretty picture Jo!

Jo is RIGHT and you are wrong. The FBI is fibbing and YOU push the phony buttons. Pile up all your phony evidence and lose it like the real evidence. Investigate some more stupid Wild Goose Chase theories like micro-photographic analysis of cut parachute chords. Jo knows damned good and well what happened and YOU can't change facts. Check the REAL FBI/Pentegon files on this case. What a JOKE!!

The Pentagon has no involvement in this case (other than the scrambled A/C, and that is just a few logs books entries), the FBI has been forthcoming (as much as they can in an open investigation), it is just that You and others don't like that fact the evidence DOES NOT back up the story. Your fable most of all, as it slanders a good bunch of innocent people.

A Nixon staffer just rebuked your WHOLE President Nixon involvement fable, BTW. A good deal of that staff still lives, is very politically involved, and not to keen on being slandered in such a way. This staffer and his assistant happened to be pretty perturbed, but as they see you have been removed/blocked from all sources and web pages with the exception of this thread, they are considering you "contained", "a harmless threat", "maybe suffering the early signs of a medical condition", and at worse "a delusional old man".

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Pf course I didn't by my daughter the 5th,

So someone else bought it and you let it happen eh? I'm on to you, Cline

I think when that time comes she will be more of a wine cooler type.

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We don't let 16-year-olds have liquor and cars. But we let them have guns.

Hmm, I bought my daughter a car for her 16th B-Day, but not a gun, as it is ILLEGAL for her to won a gun at 16. The forms even say 21 years for a purchase of a firearm. You can by a car at 18 though.

Did you buy her a fifth of liquor to go with the car, and tell her to go out and get drunk and drive?

You have to be 18 to purchase a long gun, and 21 to purchase a handgun. However, you can POSSESS either prior to those ages, you just can't buy one on your own. So you can use dad's guns, or one that someone else gives you, and you can OWN that gun.

Pf course I didn't by my daughter the 5th, I am a responsible parent. I am also a responsible gun owner.

Ages for when a person can by a gun, varies state to state, and still doesn't make your analogy any better, or even 100% correct.

Treat criminals as criminals, prosecute and punish them, stop giving them more rights than their victims. Make prison tough and hard on them, get rid of all the niceties they have. If there is no reward for crime of sustenance, then we will just have to deal with crimes of passion.

Your arguments are invalid, weak, and well, just anti individual rights, rights we are born with by the way, only reaffirmed by a piece of parchment.

You don't like guns, i get it, don't own one and go live where they aren't going to be the focus of your unreasonable.

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Just a 16-year-old shooting himself in the face. No big deal! Happens everywhere! It wouldn't happen if guns weren't lying around loose all over...

Yep, the often jump up and just start going off, like cars just start driving all drunk and shit by themselves.

We don't let 16-year-olds have liquor and cars. But we let them have guns.

Hmm, I bought my daughter a car for her 16th B-Day, but not a gun, as it is ILLEGAL for her to won a gun at 16. The forms even say 21 years for a purchase of a firearm. You can by a car at 18 though.

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That is a good outcome. That seems a better way to do things than the total banning of self defense means, a means of support, and a means of sport.

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ML, come on, there is a protocal, stop being so obtuse.

Caps lock is for yelling, period.

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Right there with ya brother!

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Foster city from '75 to '86. Folks are still there.

I remember hearing the shooting on KFRC.
Then I remember having to listen to Diane Feinstein, as she used it as her soap box cause, and still don't like listening to her.

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Jo,

Do you really think a father rolling a joint and smoking dope with his (step?) daughter is an example of good parenting?

And telling her to cancel her date/weekend plans? What was that all about?

377

More and more I see a man who was a petty thief and crook, who near his end days had a change of heart, who either tried to change his was, or became better at hiding who he was and still was till his death.

Matt

"Just a few weeks" is; long enough to find a fraud, determine if it is worth it or not - to prosecute and put in prison, or just discharge with a less than Honorable or even Dishonorable. No time for any training of any actual skills.

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I totally agree with Doug on this one. I've worked at three dropzones where we did handcam as either the only option or as a secondary option. I've done it with PC 109's, GoPros, and Contours. From plenty of personal experience I can tell you it's 100 times easier these days with GoPro's and Contours than it was in the tape-camera days. MUCH lighter and less obtrusive. I've said it before in this thread and I'll say it again: I'm totally cool with putting the ( GoPro or Contour) glove on the student. This assuming that, like normal, I've got plenty of time on the ground to give my whole briefing in the school or at the mock-up. I wouldn't put it on their hand at a place where "we'll talk about it on the way up." My students always wear altimiters, too and are generally always given the option to deploy the parachute..

Chuck

^ This!

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T-I's have shown they fail to do the handle checks when wearing a Hand Cam, T-I's have shown they fail to do EP's when needed when wearing a Hand Cam.

I KNOW, from experience, it can be done and it won't detract from the video.

You know it can be done, yet just give up and decide to complicate the students job AND the instructors job since they do not do the right thing.... Sorry, I call that cavalier.

I think, that word does not mean, what you think it means.

If we aren't going to ban them (or at least "regulate" them), then get them OFF the instructors hands so he can do what he is legally and morally obliged to do, take care of his Student!

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she said...
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Not exactly the most unbiased of sources. We'll see..

Well, even the report Diane Fienstien read says the same. But yeah, as this onion gets peeled we will see more and more!

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I read that she said she did not get the classified stuff from the Director, and he concurs.

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Wonder how much Larry Flint will offer her?

Broadwell, or the much hotter one?

This is just getting more fucking out there. Broadwell and Petraeus may end up in prison for this. She took classified documents home?

She said she didn't get them from him, he said the same as well. So, he is probably not in trouble there. Another CIA staffer may just have shit their pants though.

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So the T-I teaches the Arch, and Hand/Camera Placement.

You have the experience to have an opinion... I just disagree with it and considering your rant about WS safety, I am shocked that you are so cavalier with a tandem student's life.

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Then the T-I can go back to doing what they are REQUIRED to do. and do their Handle Checks, and watch their drift ,and look for hazards, and all the Student-Instructor Safety stuff, they tend to ignore once they get complacent, you know after a weekend of "real" students.

Any TI that says you can't do handle checks when jumping a HC is smoking crack.

Any TI that does not do handle checks... Should not be a TI IMO.

I am not cavalier, I am being practical (and you're cherry picking my early WS Rating stance, it has changed with education, BTW).

T-I's have shown they fail to do the handle checks when wearing a Hand Cam, T-I's have shown they fail to do EP's when needed when wearing a Hand Cam.

I KNOW, from experience, it can be done and it won't detract from the video.

Hand Cams are here to stay. So lets put the Instructor back in charge of the safety of the jump, as they should be, and let the student fret over the video.

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Agreed. Quality is not the point. Safety is. Therefore give the camera to the student and let the TI focus on the jump 100%. This makes the tandemjump safer.

Still waiting for you to tell everyone how many tandem instructor jumps you have.

If you want to make it safer, let the student put concentration on arching, not getting good video.

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The go pro isnt going to knock anyone out or get entangled any more than a normal altimeter on the students wrist. Your argument is weak.

The go pro is MUCH taller than an altimeter, your argument is pathetic.

BTW, how many TI jumps do you have? (4th or 5th time I have asked you to provide some background for your *expert* opinion).

Well, I have 2500+ T-I jumps, 500+ T-Evaluator jumps.
At first I thought this was a bad idea, but more, and more, I think it is no worse than a Hand Cam on the T-I, since the industry has decided that Tandem jumping is just money making jumps any way.

So the T-I teaches the Arch, and Hand/Camera Placement.

Then the T-I can go back to doing what they are REQUIRED to do. and do their Handle Checks, and watch their drift ,and look for hazards, and all the Student-Instructor Safety stuff, they tend to ignore once they get complacent, you know after a weekend of "real" students.

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My understanding, in listening to NPR, every one was aware but the POTUS and Diane Fienstien, and she is pissed!

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Who better to have in charge of the war department than someone who is anti-war? Heck, he has spoken against war side-by-side with Jane Fonda. He's exactly who we need to keep us out of another war in the middle east, or elsewhere.

The SEC DEF is to execute the orders of the POTUS, and would need the respect of those in the DOD. He wouldn't have the respect of the DOD, he lost that when running for POTUS.

We would be better served if he stayed where he is.

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