matthewcline

Robert99

***

I have a B.A. in Criminology from a major university, and I work in the investigations field, although I'll be clear that I am not a LEO, and just to put Jo at ease I'm going to come out and say I am also not a scum bag PI either (or a non scum bag PI for that matter).

FOR JO WEBER'S BENEFIT:

The quotation above is paragraph 3, post #50020, page 2001.

Robert99

See, Jo?

Matt

Jo, he did NOT claim he worked in law enforcement, he actually said he did NOT.

And yes, if one sees the trick to reading this thread, it can be read, and a basic understanding can be grasped in 2~ days.

I say let him stay, not that I, or you, have a say in it.

He may want to re-read a few of the forum rules though, or he could be reminded of them by a Grennie as I have from time to time.

He thus far, IMO, has been spot on. Actual experts get ignored here, and some very well trained and highly educated folks as well, all by some who want their pet suspect to be "the one".

Matt

GreyCopGC148

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ONLY MY OPINION
Since Cooper aka K C did not plan on taking the bomb with him and only took it after a request by Miss Mucklow I believe and is only my opinion that he let go of it on purpose before he deployed his chute I keep facts and my opinion separate
But on this one I will give my OPINION

Since you're keeping them separate, is the following fact or opinion?:

"and only took it after a request by Miss Mucklow"

It was told to me by LARRY CARR HIM SELF
GC148

And if you say it is fact, what is your source for this?

This was on the beach Frenchman's bar not Tina Bar that LARRY CARR TOLD ME THAT GC 148 THE GRAY COP PAUL GEIVETT

BY BLEV
PS matt your a little man like Bruce Smith and Mark Bennett.
no ? needed............................,...................,..............

Yep, you are like BK.

Sad, but at least we know you're not a "Cop", a fraud, but not a "Cop".

Matt

The GREY CUP GAME
The GRAY COP GAME
YOUR A LITTLE LATE TO THE GAME BUT YOU CAN SIT THERE AND WATCH IT YOU WANT Maybe next year matt maybe next year I ENJOYED THE GRAY COP GAME PAUL GEIVETT THE GRAY COP Sorry SIR but you got here after the Aerial party I took the GLOVES OFF AFTER THAT so if you want to be a dumb ass I will point it out every time So stop being a jerk I can do this all day long
I wrote jokes for Late night That is why Leno got fired

Actually, you're the one late here. But, why quibble about facts.

See, you could fix your mistake i.e. cup/cop, but then that wouldn't help you pass your farce off.

Right or wrong, those who actually HAVE proof and stand by their convictions, HAVE gone to the press, printed their books, made their TV shows etc. They didn't act cowardly.

You're a professional writer?

Riiiight.

Matt

No not even an author and I did put a book out

Bruce smith said I would not show him my evidence
thats a lie I was willing to meet him

Then he said he wanted to go to the place were the money was really found
I said ok no problem
then he chickend out

So what am I hiding what question do you have that I will not answer

this is why you hide and don't call why do you thing it's not KC list 1

PS my phone is not with me so don't call now
thats why you can't put your phone number you would get pranks all my calls are monitored by the FBI and are recorded and traced but if you have nothing to hide than you should feel safe to call but if not thats ok there watching THE GRAY COP

PS so who owned the property before PDX was built
smarty pants matt should tell us all But sadly he can't or dial a phone number. baaa baaa PEACHES THE GOAT PRODUCTIONs


PSSS matt his pants are square because he is a sponge
and a kitchen sink sponge is square gettt itttt
Just like Cash Carl square pants he is a bundle of money you know square on the bottom I enjoy the Gray Cop Game so much

BK, is that you?

Nah, You're more pathetic than BK, but still a liar. You just proved that, many times.

Matt

Robert99

***
AND don't bring your checker bored to play chess with me.
or that chines checker bored or you will lose your marbles like Mark Bennett and you will never platy that 3 level chessboard like star trek only 99 CAN PLAY THAT GAME I CAN NOT BUT I THINK HE CAN

and 99 do you think matt gets 113 when he adds the year he was born and how old he is. LETS SEE
Who is hiding my numbers out there for the world my book is out there for the world

Paul, Do you remember what started the above?

Robert99

He dipped into some of BK's MK Ultra?

Matt

GreyCopGC148

******************
ONLY MY OPINION
Since Cooper aka K C did not plan on taking the bomb with him and only took it after a request by Miss Mucklow I believe and is only my opinion that he let go of it on purpose before he deployed his chute I keep facts and my opinion separate
But on this one I will give my OPINION

Since you're keeping them separate, is the following fact or opinion?:

"and only took it after a request by Miss Mucklow"

It was told to me by LARRY CARR HIM SELF
GC148

And if you say it is fact, what is your source for this?

This was on the beach Frenchman's bar not Tina Bar that LARRY CARR TOLD ME THAT GC 148 THE GRAY COP PAUL GEIVETT

BY BLEV
PS matt your a little man like Bruce Smith and Mark Bennett.
no ? needed............................,...................,..............

Yep, you are like BK.

Sad, but at least we know you're not a "Cop", a fraud, but not a "Cop".

Matt

The GREY CUP GAME
The GRAY COP GAME
YOUR A LITTLE LATE TO THE GAME BUT YOU CAN SIT THERE AND WATCH IT YOU WANT Maybe next year matt maybe next year I ENJOYED THE GRAY COP GAME PAUL GEIVETT THE GRAY COP Sorry SIR but you got here after the Aerial party I took the GLOVES OFF AFTER THAT so if you want to be a dumb ass I will point it out every time So stop being a jerk I can do this all day long
I wrote jokes for Late night That is why Leno got fired

Actually, you're the one late here. But, why quibble about facts.

See, you could fix your mistake i.e. cup/cop, but then that wouldn't help you pass your farce off.

Right or wrong, those who actually HAVE proof and stand by their convictions, HAVE gone to the press, printed their books, made their TV shows etc. They didn't act cowardly.

You're a professional writer?

Riiiight.

Matt

GreyCopGC148

************
ONLY MY OPINION
Since Cooper aka K C did not plan on taking the bomb with him and only took it after a request by Miss Mucklow I believe and is only my opinion that he let go of it on purpose before he deployed his chute I keep facts and my opinion separate
But on this one I will give my OPINION

Since you're keeping them separate, is the following fact or opinion?:

"and only took it after a request by Miss Mucklow"

It was told to me by LARRY CARR HIM SELF
GC148

And if you say it is fact, what is your source for this?

This was on the beach Frenchman's bar not Tina Bar that LARRY CARR TOLD ME THAT GC 148 THE GRAY COP PAUL GEIVETT

BY BLEV
PS matt your a little man like Bruce Smith and Mark Bennett.
no ? needed............................,...................,..............

Yep, you are like BK.

Sad, but at least we know you're not a "Cop", a fraud, but not a "Cop".

Matt

RobertMBlevins

***I'm no coward sir, that title is yours alone.

But, if I'm to be on a list, Mark and Bruce are two cool guys to share a space with.

Answer the questions here, and in the Press, publicly.
Only a self promoting individual, for financial and personal gain, would "hide" as you do.

You're the "Blevins Bob Knoss".

Matt

Excuse me, but would you mind not associating me with Bob Knoss? Thank you.

My life is well-known, Cooper isn't the only thing I have going, and I do have some standards. One of those standards is to question points on the case with reasonable arguments.

I think you missed it.

Matt

I truly hope your family and health issues resolve for the best.

Now, to Cooper, when did you actually place DW "IN" a chute, not just near someone who used one? All I can find is your claims, no proof. Kind of like the claim KC had knowledge of the chute used because he was trained as a paratrooper, even though Paratroopers in KC's day, didn't use the styles of chutes asked for.

Matt

I'm no coward sir, that title is yours alone.

But, if I'm to be on a list, Mark and Bruce are two cool guys to share a space with.

Answer the questions here, and in the Press, publicly.
Only a self promoting individual, for financial and personal gain, would "hide" as you do.

You're the "Blevins Bob Knoss".

Matt

DanG

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He works for the "Forests"?

Is that an inside joke? I don't think you're the type that believes trees exhale CO2.

Nope, they don't "exhale" CO2, trees do use it though.

Man, you guys are so anal about attacking a guy over his political views you can't even let a little humor into these threads!



Matt

kallend

************One thing I know for sure. There is little I would want to learn from you

Considering that you write like a 5 year old child, I doubt that you are capable of learning anything.
Still unemployed?

Fail again

At no time in the last 40 years have I not been employed.

See! Still nothing learned from you

Your profile states that you are 'still looking.' If you are employed, why would you lie on a profile? Are you so embarrassed of your job that you would not state in your profile what you do for a living? Maybe, your a top secret troll and divulging such information may endanger your life, liberty and, happiness?

He works for a company that admits dumping some 30 MILLION tons of CO2 into our atmosphere every year.

Does that explain something?

He works for the "Forests"?

Matt

skyjack71

NO one can discuss anything here without YOU REHASHING the same old stuff OVER & OVER & OVER. We all know it by heart! KENNEY was not Cooper - GET OVER IT! Geestman used you - he made an ASS out of you - GET OVER IT!

Stop REPEATING the same thing over and over - it is NOT going to make people BELIEVE you! If you find something new - i am sure everyone will be eager to hear it - NOTE, I do not rehash Duane anymore...it is useless until more things are revealed such as my little 9 month run with Bulljax who I believe to be Flyjack!

Pot, meet Kettle.

Many have told you the same thing about D. Weber, yet even with the lack of actual evidence, your ever evolving story, you still say only you have the truth, yet haven't produced your "with out a doubt facts" and "evidence".


If you just want to know about your late husband and his criminal past as a petty felon, and con man, just state that is your goal, you'll find far more support that way.

Matt

GreyCopGC148

*********************"negotiable American currency",,

Only a foreigner would use that phrase..

Either this came from the hijacker or it didn't, when I was at the Museum symposium, Bruce was adamant that it didn't come from the hijacker,,, this is also problematic..

We know that everyone else was American, and no American would use that phrase, so it is even more difficult to explain the injection of that phrase into the narrative excluding the hijacker.

Some crazy thoughts,
Is it possible that the stewardess knew the hijacker OR subconsciously sensed that he was foreign causing the use of the phrase, "negotiable American currency"?

Northwest Orient Airline did fly some International routes, did the stewardess stay on domestic flights or travel internationally.. did she have experience with foreign passengers?

Did anyone else hear the hijacker speak?

from Kaye
"the most notable line to come out of the Cooper transcripts where passengers on the plane, including the flight attendants, stated that Cooper had no distinguishable accent"

...

Or ... he never said that!

READ THE THREAD.

It's old advice but you need to check FACTS BEFORE leaping to theory.

Facts vs myth. Hot button theory vs. actual research.

you miss the point, I STATED,, either the hijacker said it OR somebody added it,, WHY would somebody add it if they were American.. would an American add it to the narrative..

Why would any American add "American" to describe the currency.

and you sir miss the WHOLE POINT!

He never said it - period!

The issue is facts vs myths, in case you care.



It's all supposition, of course, but to Flyjack's point, someone said it..... and he makes a valid observation that the crew has no reason to interject the word American.

Here are the references...

From the handwritten crew notes: "negotiable currency"
From the transcript: "He wants negotiable American currency. Denomination not important"
From ckret's post on Dropzone: "He asked for negotiable US currency"

Well it is a good thing someone asked for negotiable or negotiable american currency. It would have made the jump more difficult with $200,000 worth of gold bars.

Especially since the gold vault was empty!

Matt

(sorry- couldn't resist it seems it fits this thread though)

The last thing Copper said was I can do that
I knew matt would not call 360 975 9601
Well who owned the property before PDX was built

So you wanted me to call you, since you never answered my question.

Why am I calling you? you have offered; no evidence, have no credibility, ignore actual facts (hand writing on ticket, etc) and only perpetrated myths that are probably more along the line of lies.

Your whole purpose here is self promotion, for personal and financial gain, like a few others here. And like them, you should be banned from here as well, for life if I had my way.

"Cop"? huh, right.

Matt

EVickiW

***************"negotiable American currency",,

Only a foreigner would use that phrase..

Either this came from the hijacker or it didn't, when I was at the Museum symposium, Bruce was adamant that it didn't come from the hijacker,,, this is also problematic..

We know that everyone else was American, and no American would use that phrase, so it is even more difficult to explain the injection of that phrase into the narrative excluding the hijacker.

Some crazy thoughts,
Is it possible that the stewardess knew the hijacker OR subconsciously sensed that he was foreign causing the use of the phrase, "negotiable American currency"?

Northwest Orient Airline did fly some International routes, did the stewardess stay on domestic flights or travel internationally.. did she have experience with foreign passengers?

Did anyone else hear the hijacker speak?

from Kaye
"the most notable line to come out of the Cooper transcripts where passengers on the plane, including the flight attendants, stated that Cooper had no distinguishable accent"

...

Or ... he never said that!

READ THE THREAD.

It's old advice but you need to check FACTS BEFORE leaping to theory.

Facts vs myth. Hot button theory vs. actual research.

you miss the point, I STATED,, either the hijacker said it OR somebody added it,, WHY would somebody add it if they were American.. would an American add it to the narrative..

Why would any American add "American" to describe the currency.

and you sir miss the WHOLE POINT!

He never said it - period!

The issue is facts vs myths, in case you care.



It's all supposition, of course, but to Flyjack's point, someone said it..... and he makes a valid observation that the crew has no reason to interject the word American.

Here are the references...

From the handwritten crew notes: "negotiable currency"
From the transcript: "He wants negotiable American currency. Denomination not important"
From ckret's post on Dropzone: "He asked for negotiable US currency"

Well it is a good thing someone asked for negotiable or negotiable american currency. It would have made the jump more difficult with $200,000 worth of gold bars.

Especially since the gold vault was empty!

Matt

(sorry- couldn't resist it seems it fits this thread though)

skyjack71

*********Isn't it ironic that Jo, who explicitly and repeatedly accuses the FBI of lying and covering up, would insist that Flyjack check in with them before contacting any witnesses?

I see I'm not the only one who saw the irony.

377

I contacted the FBI in 1996 and I did NOT investigate until they made a fatal mistake. I contacted witnesses AFTER the FBI had already Contacted them. The only individual I talk to prior to the FBI letter of 1998 was Himmelsback and JT.

NOW RETRACT your statement!

Actually he asked two questions, both very leading and extremely accurate, proven true by your posts this forum alone, but still questions, not a statement.

Matt

Afraid you are over my head. I did the RIGHT thing by going to the FBI.
Yes, I think they SCREWED UP and THEY haven't told me everything.

Sorry I don't get where you are going.

And that is called a "walk back".

You must really try and keep up, hell, you're the one driving this short bus most most the time!

The info needed is even quoted!

Matt

skyjack71

***Isn't it ironic that Jo, who explicitly and repeatedly accuses the FBI of lying and covering up, would insist that Flyjack check in with them before contacting any witnesses?

I see I'm not the only one who saw the irony.

377

I contacted the FBI in 1996 and I did NOT investigate until they made a fatal mistake. I contacted witnesses AFTER the FBI had already Contacted them. The only individual I talk to prior to the FBI letter of 1998 was Himmelsback and JT.

NOW RETRACT your statement!

Actually he asked two questions, both very leading and extremely accurate, proven true by your posts this forum alone, but still questions, not a statement.

Matt

Sad, I too have had the spammers attack my dz.com pm and email address, my fb page, my gmail, and even my phone.

All because I am trying to teach, educate, and just keep my fellow jumpers safe and alive, some from their own madd skillz.

Oddly, they tend to stay away from my army.mil account, I wonder why?

Matt

GreyCopGC148

***perhaps you could explain this post made several days ago?

"On another note; "No Sir, the case is still open, it has not been solved. No, we are not close to making an announcement. Yes, leads are still being looked in to, but we do not have any current viable suspects, all past suspects are still that, suspect, but not viable for the highjacking. (And honestly, no new evidence to suggest any new suspects. Yeah, that site, interesting to say the least) You be safe out there Officer"

Matt "

I would tell Him to call me but he won't 360 975 9601
ask him to show you the results form FBI lab Virgina
ask him if your shoes are untied thats the only way you would know.

Curtis Eng told me that some people don't want this case solved and I see that's you

Its the FBI policy not to comment on a ongoing investigation
but Curtis Eng made an exception.

Good LUCK Sir find a new hobby try metal detecting

sorry Sir but Paul Geivett of Vancouver WA state Solved the DB COOPER CASE ON 6 13 13 get over it no body is hiding the letter's from you or the ticket

Go out side in the lite of day and ask someone you don't know if they think the handwriting matches. Don' tell them it has any thing to do with DB COOPER.

THEY all will say yes. ASK 12 and your done

The only people that say no are on this site only 7 or so

You have $$$$$$$$$ motivation Sir that's all Greed$$$$$$$$$$ ask your doctor next time you see him if he thing the handwriting matches. Then ask him to explain DNA to you

I spell Curtis Eng that way not Matt tell Matt to call the ST patrol if he want's me to show him who DB COOPER IS OR HE CAN WATCH MY VIDEOS FOR HIMSELF AND SAVE ME ANOTHER SPEEDING TICKET Sir you DENIAL is almost unbelievable it's shocking YOU WILL NEVER BE ABEL TO TALK TO CURTIS ENG EVER AGAIN. you will get the media department isn't that right Curtis.

Controversy will sell more of my book than the case being solved
conspiracy Ill sell even more that way so keep it up Sir
Case solved every body can go home low book sales I like it your way. So keep up the good work SIR

Who do you want to call you?
Since no one here believes you, nor apparently any LEO who may be associated with the case, and many who are following it.

Since it appears you are making up all your supposed conversations, I am loath to think you have had any with anyone out side this page, or outside this format.

But, at least you are finally admitting why you are making your claim, Money. Money is usually the first motivation for most crimes, even ones that aren't illegal.

To the forum, Have a Merry Christmas! I'm going to kit up and get to work. See ya later!

Matt

For the ost part, USPA, can't and won't police themselves, nor do the manufacturers.

Starts post I think is pretty clear.
Like you, I was just passing along info.

Matt

In the few investigations I have been apart of, the LEO always accepted the Class III as in possession if it was on the DZ, i.e. in the log book, locker etc.

What a former aviation lawyer (For the GOV) told me one time, paraphrased; T-I's get certified by taking and passing a course, then maintaining their annual certifications as required by the manufacturer and USPA, part of qualifying is the Class III or better. I could make a charge stick if you didn't have one.

He would keep telling me to re-read and really study the FAR as it pertained to Tandems, KNOW what it says, he would say, again and again.

Good thing the guy was in our side, since there are apparently some not passing any form of medical certification and acting as T-I's.

Matt

IIRC, the FAA Class III must be in your possession at all times when working under it. Just like any Pilot or crew member. So it can be inspected by the FAA Rep on the spot.

Matt

ShotterMG

Also consider the fact ChrisD doesn't know what he is talking about. He obviously is not rated and is only guessing what a coach course is. It actually is 3 days of intensive learning about how to teach students. If you're not already a teacher you will learn a ton of valuable information. You will be tested on 2 very simple air evaluations and you will practice ground preps. But the course is 99% classroom learning and 1% test which is a given you will pass. The course is all about teaching and has very little to do with your air skills.

False. The course is a combo or teaching and learning. Sure it is "simple" to the "prepared", which is key, be prepared.

Matt

Amazon

I realize that whacky tabaccy is now legal in Washington... but I think BK really wants to know where you are getting the hallucinatory variety.

+1

On another note; "No Sir, the case is still open, it has not been solved. No, we are not close to making an announcement. Yes, leads are still being looked in to, but we do not have any current viable suspects, all past suspects are still that, suspect, but not viable for the highjacking. (And honestly, no new evidence to suggest any new suspects. Yeah, that site, interesting to say the least) You be safe out there Officer"

Matt

Isn't it funny how folks will try and grue with you in PM's on why their idiocy is OK, then block you from replying?

Kind of cowardly actually.

Matt

davelepka

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sets a poor example

Like the TI snugging up his legtraps right before climibing in the plane with the free ends hanging loose? Or the student not being hooked up or with a snug harness while the door is open for the 4-way jumprun at 10,500? Or the hunk of drouge hanging out of the pouch when the TI knew full well he was going head down with the student? Or the unsecured straps beating the shit out of the student while freeflying?

Bad example? Nah, it's Europe! Stupid Americans could never understand their level of refinement and culture.

Many more issues than just a head down jump. Yet we are too stupid to see how cool this was!

Stop with the PM's now. The jump, was dangerous, skill levels be damned.

Matt