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Those happened to be their professions at the time of the hijacking, what things did they do in life prior? Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

As I posted above lots did survive.. and if your airplane is disintegrating around you.. you can be one SERIOUSLY motivated airman.. so motivated in fact that it is enough to overcome a deeply ingrained desire to try just one more thing to regain control.. so much so that you can pull yourself to a hole big enough to get out of at VERY high speed while pulling a couple G's. And WHERE did they learn to do these things? Oh, I don't know. Maybe some tough training at a US Army paratrooper school or something.

Great post and good calmly explained conclusions, IMO. This does seem to lean towards a better rained and more experienced "Operative" type, over the haphazardly type. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

Because JR is just here stirring the pot, with the "oppositions" stir. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

Fail. An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

Jo, You say you are an old lady with "nothing to lose" yet you tease about secret govt programs involving ex cons, etc. if you have nothing to lose then spill the beans. Do an exposé. Go public. Lets see what evidence you have to substantiate these spectacular claims. It's easy to tease and claim that national security prevents you from telling all you know. That story is repeated every night in a hundred bars by guys claiming to be spooks, spies, etc. Hope your health is improving. I give you a hard time here, but truly wish you the best. 377 A little bird was flying south for the winter. It was so cold the bird froze and fell to the ground into a large field. While he was lying there, a cow came by and pooped on him. As the frozen bird lay there in the pile of cow dung, he began to realize how warm he was. The dung was actually thawing him out! He lay there all warm and happy, and soon began to sing for joy. A passing cat heard the bird singing and came to investigate. Following the sound, the cat discovered the bird under the pile of cow dung, and promptly dug him out and ate him. Morals of the story: (1) Not everyone who shits on you is out to get you. (2) Not everyone who gets you out of shit is your friend. (3) And when you're in deep shit, it's best to keep your mouth shut! You Sir, just made a public threat, of harm, to an individual poster of this thread. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

'71 wasn't far enough removed from the 60's to think all the thin/skinny dressers happened to be gone. The thin and skinny fashion look of "the man" and the flared and colorful fashion look of "Hippies" coexisted for a long time. And oddly enough are both back in style again. So maybe, he was just a working man, who wore what he normally wore for his day. When my dad traveled the Pacific Rim for work he wore that thin/skinny look, when back home he slipped in to the flared and colorful stuff, weekend "Hippie" I guess. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

my life is extremely full right now thank you, keep the "get a life" quotes on Facebook. I understand there is a lot of "bickering" going on from time to time, however, we have been able to resolve issues here. since you want information I can tell you I'm presently working on the flight path via simulator, plus working about 50+ hours out here in the real world so forgive me if it sounds offensive. sometimes when a question is asked, it takes some bickering to get answers, but you are correct on the amount. (too much) I am sure he knows that, he took four days to read through the threads thousands of posts, before his one post. As an 18 series he is pretty smart, and Echos, are not known for being stupid. He called a bunch of us out for getting off track, problem is when we are on track, some asshat decides to pop in with childish pics, juvenile tantrums and bickering, lies, politics, travel plans, numerous other unrelated crap, etc, etc. Few, are without blame. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

You big scary Christian you It's an old joke of the South. In the South an acceptable defense is, he just needed killin'. It is a misquoted movie line "Mr. Reagan", and even here in the south, it is not an acceptable defense. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

Why Tenn.? Why not? you make a claim, back it up, these are the guys, so?We went much further than that. "we"? Sure The answers I got were basically, we know, please be quiet. Go away. (Including Carr.) So threaten me some more. No threats, your making up a fable and slandering some good people. and Doesn't change any facts. You don't state or prove any "facts" Fact is that it was Pentagon sponsored Lie assisted by the FBI Agents Lie at the request of the FAA lie, authorized by the White House lie. That is what no one will admit and what you and your buddies try to bury.lie Jo Weber has some of the story, but her ability to investigate is not so hot. There were no CB communications. The appearance of Cooper was a surprise to most everyone. It was, according to everyone, not expected. But it was planned. At little new info for MrShutter. Go figure.and the final lie, of your post, this time So call the number, let me know when you are going to, I will go sit there and wait for them to answer for you. I hope they put it on speaker phone. It will be fun. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

Nope, he went to far. He should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. The initial shots that STOPPED the threat, sure, good to go, the follow ups, not even close to legal. IMO Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

According to your understanding, what is the legal definition of an assault weapon? Whatever the government says it is. so you don't personally have an understanding of what you would like to see removed from the public. That's what I take from that statement in response to my question. Because he, like most, do not know where term came from or what it ACTUALLY means. It doesn't matter what it meant originally back in WWII when the concept was created. Since then, the government has redefined it to mean something else. And that's what they're regulating with the assault weapon ban. So it no longer matters what it meant in WWII - that's past history only. What matters now is what the definition means NOW. If the government bans AR15's as assault weapons, and your defense is that AR-15's weren't assault weapons in WWII, then you'll lose. Have fun sitting in prison, explaining to your fellow criminals how you're innocent because assault weapons are only machineguns. You're still wrong, the GOv can't figure it out them selves, DF hasn't a clue, and of course you can't use it on your argument, since you don't know what one is either. The term "Assault Rifle" is younger than you think, very well defined by a set of parameters (that gun ban folks seem to forget), and requires a Class 3 FFL for a common citizen to even ask for the chance to purchase. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

According to your understanding, what is the legal definition of an assault weapon? Whatever the government says it is. so you don't personally have an understanding of what you would like to see removed from the public. That's what I take from that statement in response to my question. Because he, like most, do not know where term came from or what it ACTUALLY means. But as he is just trolling, and has no real point, it is all fun for him. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

See: http://www.vpc.org/snipercrime.htm Of course you found another, heavily bias and incorrectly listed, none Brady source, since the actual weapon was not fired in the commission of a crime. Most of those listed just happened to be confiscated after a separate crime. Again week points for a weak argument by you. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

I do remember something some one said to me about Duane's system. A man who had worked on his CB - What you said above is why I remembered what the man said. The man told me he did NOT understand WHY Duane had the system he had - but DUMB OLD ME didn't know what Duane had was any different than any other CB - to me a CB was a CB. What kind of system could Duane have had - and WHY did he carry an extra car size battery in the trunk? He told me this and something you guys just ignore - If we were stranded in a snow storm that we would be able to communicate with the planes... What kind of system would he have needed to do this? Jo, 377 and Matt, plus others, have explained that no CB radio is going to be of any use in contacting airplanes. What kind of radio system did Duane have? Did he have it connected to the car battery in the trunk? If it was, it is very unlikely that it was a CB radio. Or at least it wouldn't be after that battery fried its components. To repeat 377s previous statement, I have never heard of a CB radio being installed in an airplane and it would be very expensive to do so. When they became available after WW2, smoke jumpers may have been equipped with military surplus walkie talkie type equipment. But I would think other types of radios would be more suitable for that function. But your idea that Duane gave a call to an airplane on an Air Traffic Control frequency is not very likely either. How did he know the frequency they were on? And remember that general aviation and commerical aircraft do NOT normally moniter 121.5 on the VHF band and probably doesn't have 243.0, which is a military frequency, on the UHF band. If you were stranded in a snow storm, in the time frame we are considering, your best bet for communications would be a CB radio, if you are really out in the brush, or a car telephone if you are closer to civilization. I understand that there is an emergency channel on CB radios that is usually monitered by the local State Highway Patrol. This would be your best bet for assistance. Of course, the ideal solution is not to get yourself stranded in a snow storm. Weather forecasts have been widely available for quite a few decades. Robert99 And lets not forget the flaw in that statement, for that time period,if it is a snowstorm, the A/C isn't out flying any way. Not ones that would be doing S&R. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

You're missing the point. A/C to Ground commo, via man portable or vehicle born radios, was the norm in 1971 and earlier, and easy even still today. But this was NOT done by a standard CB radio, which is the posters point. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

The "examples" the Brady Campaign claims to have used, but did not actually list, aren't even in the US. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

People who kill with vehicles do so accidentally. Not always true. People who kill with guns do so intentionally. Not always true, as well. So perhaps we should be a little more strict on the guns. Using false, fact lacking, statements as absolutes, only weakens your point. Since it is a weak point to begin with, it pretty much means this is a pointless thread. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

It doesn't matter what YOU consider an assault weapon to be. It's how the government classifies them that counts. And Obama considers your AR to be an assault rifle. So just keep right on telling yourself it's safe, 'cause that'll make it easier for Obama to send his lawmen to come get it from you, and others that think like you. And society will be better off for it, while you stumble around in a confused daze mumbling; "But, it's not technically an assault weapon!" Oh, so the "gun nuts" are right, the Gov IS coming for their legally owned, and rightfully possessed property, that is theirs as a right of birth, and guaranteed by the US Constitution and Bill of Rights. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

In some states maybe, but in many you still have to get the forms run through, CCW/CHL or not. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

You said OWN. A 16 year old hunting is hunting under supervision in most States. Well, then you are either just trolling or do not understand basic logic. Alcohol is proven to CAUSE problems no matter what activity. A gun is an object that is misused for evil actions. Blaming the gun for the ACT of a person is like blaming a spoon because someone is fat. You want to stop the ACT of murder, you have to focus on the ACT - Not the tool. That would be like trying to ban spoons to prevent obesity in the US... It is just not going to work. An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

Well played! I just want to be in the office when he calls, so Chief and I can laugh. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

Here ya go Bob, if you're stating your story is fact. Call this number (931) 552-1018 Tell it to these guys, on record, subject to perjury and civil suit, of course. If any part of your story is false, you won't be able to call this number. If it is all true, they are the ones who can get you "Whistle Blower" Status and Protection. So this is your last chance. Call the number, go on record and place all your cards on the table, or leave the thread and all of the "Cooper" followers, investigators, theorists, and fans of the story alone. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

He can't. He is the "King of the Cover Up". He knows he is fake and also knows he is safe here, as long as he doesn't post in another thread, since we all know he is making his story up, he won't be subject to any real legal issues. First time he decides to head back out and spread his falsehoods in another thread, the gloves come off and he loses all. He actually has NO proof, only fake "evidence", googled pics, made up time lines, maps that are woefully false, and other made up crap. This is Bob's rubber room, his safe place. We placate him and even prop him up to "act a fool" at times. We should just ignore him and wait for him to slip up in public, and then watch him in the news. He will then garner a bunch of support, and you will know a supporter since they will start with "Ah, bless his heart..." Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

Eh, he is through like Gore is. They will be involved and around for many many years. Both are examples of "far" in their political stances, but both have a few good ideas. Sadly, we the citizens of the US suffer because the parties want control and power over actual action and improvement. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!