Simple really. The world is fucked off with Prez Bush/Cheney/Rumsfield, etc policies, because they can see them for what they are.
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The media says this yet the peoples votes dont hold it up.
You and those like you are pissed so you seem to extend that to the world with nothing solid to back it up....
I understand your point (which I cant agree with) and I thank you for a reply
So you understand the point that the rest of the world is fucked off with bush/cheney... ect
but cant agree with it.....
OPEN your EYES!
everyday i meet people from all over the world (for the last 15 years) ...the thousands of people i have met have pretty all had the same image of america...which is the country you roll your eyes at... FACT!
IMO you are delusional about how the rest of the world see you... if you came over here spouting your shit you would be a VERY VERY lonely man!.....FACT!
and from what ive read from your other posts you just want to pick a fight...........
Not one person here can answer the question. You can not either. Because you dont have one.
His speech was a touchy feely rock and roll star I love you media event that said absolutly nothing.
Tear dowm walls (what wall and how? I seem to remember two countries across the pond electing very pro america pro Bush leaders that campained they were pro bush pro usa. No walls there)
Build a bridge... to what and why? Tell me please.
Many have posted I am blinded. sheesh what are you pro BHO groupies......
and I dont like McCain either lest you forget...
Maybe tear down the walls that stand between america and the majority of the world....
Your leader is a complete moron!....and if you cannot see the damage that has been done by him... and why now you may have to resolve issues because of it...in my mind you are a moron as well.....
Or maybe just american.... its hard to tell these days
I was surprised how expensive it was to get a Dslr on my head... It didnt just mean a lens but other things as well,mount, bite-switch, flatdock, ringsight, maybe a cutaway for your new setup?....
If was me id probably look at a wide angle for the pc and maybe an extra battery if you dont already have one?
I just saw parts on the news i thought the parts i saw where pretty good...For me though... the best part was afterwards...when an Englishman was asked what he thought of Obama, to which he gushed, He was fantastic,He's my new Messiah!!!!
Im guessing if they start a riot over a t-shirt they arnt the christians they claim to be!....Unless of course they have been given special judgment powers over there fellow man???....But i thought that was there bosses job?
YEEESSS!!!.... Finally in my greasy little hands is a Brand new wings rig Thanks bigway for everything!!!Its a SICK little rig!!......And dropping it off as well!...I hope you extend that service to all your customers
While wearing a t-shirt that says: Mary was only a virgin if you don't count anal.
Well I don't want to hear about evil that is called good, nor do I want to see a parade of things that blaspheme God.
Though you may not want to hear about it....Didnt the pope just try to apologize for all the evil that is called good.... within the church??( not to mention all the other past evils that have flowed under that particular banner?
And im sorry... but that T-shit just about sums up what i think of an immaculate conception too.....
[ Can you explain why it is that you find the photographic images unacceptable, but you are okay with a realistic life painting of the same subject. Considering the modeling time for the painting can quite feasibly be a considerably longer time.
(just trying to ascertain why you have a difference in apreciation?)
Download an inappropriate photo you can go to jail for a long time download the same image as a painting and you wont!!!
I would like to think the majority of my contributions to this thread are of a little more value than your subjective emotional preachings. But hey that's just my (self declared) objective view
and im sure you will go on thinking that....
I started this thread to try and understand why certain photo's which i find a bit strange to look at a lot of people are staunchly defending ...I think i managed to get a better understanding on the topic thanks to quite a few people who showed me a different way to look at the subject.
But of course if you have anything of value to add to the discussion.....
you are the one that seems to get emotionally uptight and drags this discussion down. Objectivity seems to be something you lack, not to mention the ability to conduct yourself in a manner that does not try to insult others. But you are a KIWI so I cant really expect to much in the way of intellect or rational thought
I've read through a lot of this thread, but didn't look at the pictures until today. NOPE! Don't like it. If you need to depict children the way he does, then paint 'em. One must be capable of consenting to nude photographs, and 13 y/o kids just need a few more years, imho. At 13, given my life at that time, I woulda said "Sure! Take a picture of my clit." Today I would regret those pictures being on display. He needs to pick up a paint brush.
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the bolded text indicates to me that you have now problem with the youth modeling, more so that you dont perceive photography as art. Or did you not type what you really wanted to say?
And would you regret those pictures if they are on display in the Guggenheim as some of his work is?
Are you on crack???
How do you get the fact that the poster doesn't consider photography as art...The statement you underlined IMO was directed more at the different forms of art.....
And im also guessing that the photos that get hung in the Guggenheim arnt he ones you get ashamed of....
But maybe you might regret it if your naked photo WAS one of the %99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 of photos that are not hung there//// .....
But of course if you have anything of value to add to the discussion.....
As i said before i like a lot of his photos ...but SURELY it is possible to capture a dark image of a pre teens innocence without showing her vagina ?.......Would someone like to tell me why it would HAVE to be in the photo and not covered in some way?....
But then I suppose i would have never heard about his work if it hadnt been fo rthe controversy he stirs.....maybe he just just drops the V-Bomb when sales are down?
We make the assumption the just because a parent consents it is not going to affect the child later.....it may.....
And ONE more question for you all....
If tomorrow he is arrested and convicted of child sex crimes ( I AM MAKING THIS UP TO SHOW A POINT!)....Those exact same photos would still be the same photos but now they have been taken by a pedophile who obviously wasnt thinking of the innocence of an emerging woman....but something to whak off over...( maybe he was thinking abotu the innocence)
Would you still love the pictures if you knew his motivation was different ????....remember they would be the Exact same pictures?????
Ive tried to find a sight with the pictures that i saw and cant find any of them....Which i find is weird seeing as how controversial they have become?...
I have emailed my friend who showed them to me and asked if she can send them to me. Or tell me where they where...
.I believe it's the half-blacks who are gonna help us get past all of this
Gotta love those half-blacks.....( fucking brilliant...i love americans!)
Personally ill put my money on the all blacks!!! .....C'mon Richie ..GET IN THERE SON!!!
The half-Mexicans could pull it off, but they're a few steps behind, having avoided that whole slavery thing and all. They're just now gettin' used to being shit on....
And all you Half-English have done all right for yourselves...
Obama at Berlin
in Speakers Corner
Obama at Berlin
in Speakers Corner
Maybe tear down the walls that stand between america and the majority of the world....
Your leader is a complete moron!....and if you cannot see the damage that has been done by him... and why now you may have to resolve issues because of it...in my mind you are a moron as well.....
Or maybe just american.... its hard to tell these days
Obama at Berlin
in Speakers Corner
A leader that people will LISTEN to........ At the moment you just have a leader people laugh at!
$500 to spend - what to get?
in Photography and Video
It didnt just mean a lens but other things as well,mount, bite-switch, flatdock, ringsight, maybe a cutaway for your new setup?....
If was me id probably look at a wide angle for the pc and maybe an extra battery if you dont already have one?
Obama at Berlin
in Speakers Corner
Unlike with bush
......America is fucked already now its just damage control....
Obama at Berlin
in Speakers Corner
I just saw parts on the news i thought the parts i saw where pretty good...For me though... the best part was afterwards...when an Englishman was asked what he thought of Obama, to which he gushed, He was fantastic,He's my new Messiah!!!!
Those crazy english
Got Wings?
in Gear and Rigging
Just need this shit weather to clear up now!!!!
Got Wings?
in Gear and Rigging
Or i could just use my phone
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Onward Christian Soldiers (with special new laws)
in Speakers Corner
Im guessing if they start a riot over a t-shirt they arnt the christians they claim to be!....Unless of course they have been given special judgment powers over there fellow man???....But i thought that was there bosses job?
Got Wings?
in Gear and Rigging
Ash pinched all my lenses when he went to Thailand so ive got to wait till He gets back next week
Got Wings?
in Gear and Rigging
YEEESSS!!!.... Finally in my greasy little hands is a Brand new wings rig
Thanks bigway for everything!!!Its a SICK little rig!!......And dropping it off as well!...I hope you extend that service to all your customers
Legalized prostitution?
in Speakers Corner
When you have lived in the middle of the Red light district of australia for 3 years its hard to be objective
Onward Christian Soldiers (with special new laws)
in Speakers Corner
Though you may not want to hear about it....Didnt the pope just try to apologize for all the evil that is called good.... within the church??( not to mention all the other past evils that have flowed under that particular banner?
And im sorry... but that T-shit just about sums up what i think of an immaculate conception too.....
Legalized prostitution?
in Speakers Corner
....Crack???
Legalized prostitution?
in Speakers Corner
Why then did they censor the GTA game for NSW so you couldn't hook up with the prostitutes?.... I always wondered that...
Fat people are offended by Pixar's WALL-E
in Speakers Corner
Thats it!!! They could do a SURVIVER doughnut island or something...
THAT i would watch
Art ..... or child porn!
in Speakers Corner
Download an inappropriate photo you can go to jail for a long time download the same image as a painting and you wont!!!
Art ..... or child porn!
in Speakers Corner
Art ..... or child porn!
in Speakers Corner
Art ..... or child porn!
in Speakers Corner
Are you on crack???
How do you get the fact that the poster doesn't consider photography as art...The statement you underlined IMO was directed more at the different forms of art.....
And im also guessing that the photos that get hung in the Guggenheim arnt he ones you get ashamed of....
But maybe you might regret it if your naked photo WAS one of the %99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 of photos that are not hung there//// .....
But of course if you have anything of value to add to the discussion.....
Art ..... or child porn!
in Speakers Corner
As i said before i like a lot of his photos ...but SURELY it is possible to capture a dark image of a pre teens innocence without showing her vagina ?.......Would someone like to tell me why it would HAVE to be in the photo and not covered in some way?....
)
But then I suppose i would have never heard about his work if it hadnt been fo rthe controversy he stirs.....maybe he just just drops the V-Bomb when sales are down?
We make the assumption the just because a parent consents it is not going to affect the child later.....it may.....
And ONE more question for you all....
If tomorrow he is arrested and convicted of child sex crimes ( I AM MAKING THIS UP TO SHOW A POINT!)....Those exact same photos would still be the same photos but now they have been taken by a pedophile who obviously wasnt thinking of the innocence of an emerging woman....but something to whak off over...( maybe he was thinking abotu the innocence
Would you still love the pictures if you knew his motivation was different ????....remember they would be the Exact same pictures?????
Jesse Jackson uses the "N" word
in Speakers Corner
( sorry ...off topic
Hancok....
in The Bonfire
Weve waited too long for a completely original superhero in a movie...
Art ..... or child porn!
in Speakers Corner
I have emailed my friend who showed them to me and asked if she can send them to me. Or tell me where they where...
Jesse Jackson uses the "N" word
in Speakers Corner