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  1. Your conclusion of safety did have a consequence. A 7 year revokation. I contested that both with the USPA and on this thread to bring attention to the gossipers out there the truth in the matter. How does backing a friend make me feel hard done by. Who did I blame? I confronted Jan on this thread for her actions here as board member, she responed by showing a course of appeal to take. That is what is happening by those that support the appeal against the revokation. If you don't give a two shits about DZ.com why the post? As for strenghening the resolve against JAcko on this thread i didn't know DZ.com had that kind of influence....powerful media it must be.
  2. You are right the arguement would be pointless because you do not know the difference between harness fitted right ......and laterals loose, which by the way nothing to do with the harness being fitted on a person. What else you got??
  3. It was mr jackson in the library with the candlestick holder....This isn't Cludo....You are right about one thing in your statement. I'll give you a clue...."this kind of tandem flying was business as usual."
  4. Try not too jump to too many conclusions. No he did not give me a letter. He read it to me as would a friend to friend. I jumped on this thread on my own free will. You are PA removed by slotperfect if you think I am his agent. I am his friend and I defend his case of revokation. Hopefully you have friends who may do the same for you one day. His reasons for leaving Xkeys had nothing to do with skydiving., irrelevant comparison you say. Try not to pool two instructors in the same category. One who has a clean safety record and the other who did not put a harness on correctly. The point on that is one is getting his rating back Quote"because he felt upset about it"and another is having everything revoked because he is Quote "such a skygod" as you say. Lets make your statement SOP for the USPA "when tempers cool you can get your rating back." We'll all claim social security before that happens. Stay on point my arguement was the issuance of dicipline Period.
  5. Sorry to dissappoint lana, i know why jacko left xkeys. Had nothing to do with skydiving on the contrary. Whatever happened to having a friends back? The story jackos friends are not being told is on the last 11pages an 16440 hits. They just are not speaking out for fear of the same reprisal.
  6. Unless Jan Meyer has no objection or can provide some better information on how to contact the executive committee to overule this dicipline write to this address and ASK that it be Cc to all Executive Members. [email protected]
  7. Balls, here is the quote directly from the letter. Shall I put it in caps.... As far as the wording from USPA.....The letter was from Glenn Bangs President USPA and Cc: Chris Needles,USPA Executive Director Gary Peek Central Regional Director QUOTE "your USPA membership has been revoked for a period of seven years by the executive committee." QUOTE "Please return your membership card and rating documents to the associations main office in the enclosed self addressed and stamped envelope I did not "quote" because I use discretion on an open forum have you? You are right the RD did not contact the FAA but that is about, it they are still invovled. One minute you disagree with the decision made by the committee then the other minute it seems you do. Read it here for all to see. Question is what will be done about it or will you and others just let what happened happen. I will not.
  8. Jan, Then why was a letter issued and signed by the board dir. stating just that? The caps was my idea i thought it would look cool...not really it emphasizes the contents of the letter which are not a quote to add but read from the horses mouth. Try not to dilute this arguement between you and me. The letter reads what the letter reads as stated. You may not have a copy from USPA but iu am sure you will get one if you request. The letters may not go far but the attention will jast as yours did. And FYI the FAA are involved
  9. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander dearie! I am not a board member that is the difference. I am standing up for the rights if a TI who was incorrectly diciplined. Who knows your rating may be next who will stand up for you if not your friends.
  10. It would help more if individuals stood up and raised their voices. Email Jan [email protected]
  11. First off I am not Jacko. 2nd I worked in the sport for 13 years so I think I have an Idea of what working with students is about. Do you even have an idea about what this thread addresses. Here is an example of fair justice, another TI is in the process of getting his rating back after a student dropped from his harness. Maybe he should go freefly and get a sponsorship like you say!! The FAA allow the USPA to police themselves under.......DUH FAR part 105. Guess where that comes from. I'll give you a hint it starts with F--.
  12. Tune in pal, this discussion is about a TI'S action and the judgement laid down by USPA. The policing by the DZ and its members produced this thread. Let me fill you in on the highlights so you have the facts. A complainant saw a video and reported it to a Regional Director. The RD contacted the TI and requested ceasation of the activity, included was a letter describing a " slap on hand with consequence, The TI complied. The complainant appealled the "punishment as not sevear enough," and requested USPA to reopen and re-dicipline. Here are the contents of a letter drafted to Mr Jackson by the USPA....... "EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY YOU SHALL RETURN THE USPA ISSUED TANDEM RATING, AFF INSTRUCTOR RATING AND ARE HEREBY SUSPENDED FROM MEMEBERSHIP TO THE ASSOCIATION FOR NO LESS THAN 7 YEARS," Do you think that is sevear enough a punishment. Wake up pal, this is not only about a TI's action on video but of a gross improper use of dicipline on a compliant TI. For all of you out there that do not agree with this verdict write Jan Myers [email protected] or the USPA Executive Committee Board of Directors to overturn this decision. My letter is in. For your information the FAA collaborates with a group known as the National Transport and Safety Board, who collects and processes evidence of accidents and incidents. They are not impartial, biased or swayed by DZ GOssip. The findings are kept CONFIDENTIAL and based purely on FACT as is their conclusion. I hope for the sports sake YOU are not a jury member.
  13. Re-evalute everyone then on a regular basis. In our world of aviation, a pilot must undergo a bi-annual review(psst. that means every two years). As a pilot commercial carrying passengers FAR part 135 for hire a pilot must undergo recurrent training every year. What separates a tandem instructor from this. He has to have a medical current, right?(3 years) same as a private pilot not a commercial pilot(every 12months). Recurrent training and re-evaluation is key to maintaining a rating. All the parties where invited by the DZ, paid vacation non came out. The FAA are already involved thanks to RD. Ideas and suggestions come from interactive well educated, involved individuals in the sport not open days to look for problems. This thread has spun so far out of control I do not believe this is the last of it.
  14. I am not at liberty to say what ratings were yanked, out of respect to Jacko and the final decision of the USPA. I know personally the contents of the letter issued by USPA, and responded to them with my own as did other instructors who did not agree with the verdict. What I can comment on when I spoke with JAcko is he felt he had been unfairly victimized, he agreed to stop based on the request of a RD letter. If he did not think it was wrong I do not think in my profession and personal opinion of Jacko that he would have stopped, case closed. His attitude was positive to all parties involved resulting in compliance.
  15. His attitude was of compliance, he stopped. USPA still issued"yanked rating and more". I agree with you that his attitude would greatly affect a decision. He stopped is that not indicative of his attitide. His personality as long as I have known him has never been egocentric. His reaction should be testamnet to his attitude. He stopped. PERIOD. USPA still issued a punishment as if he was the one who dropped a student. During this whole thread I backed JAcko as a competant instructor. I did not agree nor condone at anytime with what was done. What I contested was the manner dicipline was issued. References made to him were charcter fiber for those who wished to hang him like jlmiricle. JAcko's attitude as an instructor and a pilot do not warrent the punishment he was issued. That is the point of this dicussion.