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  1. 5 hours ago, brenthutch said:

    I’m not arguing the state of the economy, I am just sharing what the PERCEPTION of the economy is to a large segment of the electorate.  BTW few folks care about GDP when inflation is out pacing their income. 

    But you're not saying that it is, because you're not arguing the state of the economy, right?

    Yeah buddy, I'm sure someone out there believes you.

  2. 5 hours ago, brenthutch said:

    The polls 

    So you agree that it's a problem that so many people incorrectly think that Trump would be better for the economy, and would consider voting for him despite his stated desire to overthrow democracy and the constitution.

    So what are you doing to try and persuade those people that they are wrong?

  3. 8 hours ago, wmw999 said:

    Well, to be fair, Brent does consider himself to be a contrarian.

    So, a liar who doesn't really stand for anything. Yeah, that's what I said.

  4. This whole subject is highlights such a contradiction in the right wing world view. The case study of Brent (a true believer in trickle down economics and being nice to billionaires because they make all the jobs) and Musk (a billionaire who employs lots of people) is pretty weird. 

    Musk: Builds Tesla into the most valuable company in the world with 140,000 US employees, which I'd imagine are skewed heavily towards highly paid tech jobs.

    Brent: Tesla is a joke and I can't wait for it to fail!

    Musk: Builds SpaceX into a $100Bn company with 15,000 US employees (again many well paid tech jobs) and resurrects the US from a country who could no longer reach the ISS on their own back to the undeniable global leader in space.

    Brent: Only a liberal moron would think SpaceX is what success looks like!

    Musk: Buys Twitter as a going concern, tanks its income streams, wipes 75% off its value, and fires 80% of its workforce (often illegally), making thousands of people unemployed and publically mocking any of them who dare complain.

    Brent: These are the greatest days that the world of Business has ever seen and Elon Musk is a god like genius!

     

    Almost like he's not really judging the merits...

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  5. 3 hours ago, BIGUN said:

    Your googlefu broke? Take each one and put Biden in front of it. Then become an informed reader. 

    Utter bullshit, and trying to hide behind Google is just sad. You’re obviously talking bollocks, so just man up and admit it.

    3 hours ago, BIGUN said:

    Both of them are pieces of shit that I won't vote for . . . And, be honest; you're just voting for the lesser. That's where we're at. Not who we're "for;" who we're against. 

    Utter bullshit again. You may disagree with Biden’s policies but he’s not a piece of shit because of that. You’re demonstrating the absolute worst of America’s broken, divisive politics right now. Why is that who you want to be?

  7. On 3/25/2024 at 9:42 PM, winsor said:

    If you remove a few key demographics to which the "binary men" you mention are included, the statistics change drastically.

    Try blowing that dog whistle a bit harder next time, I don’t know if I quite got the point you were trying to make.

  8. On 3/28/2024 at 5:37 PM, brenthutch said:

    You can complain all you want about Trump, but the electorate feels differently 

    So? What’s your point?

    ”People think it’s bad”

    ”It’s really not”

    ”Yeah but they think it is”

    … Ok. And? Where do you want to go with that thought?

  10. On 3/27/2024 at 7:07 PM, sundevil777 said:

    Is it possible to make it more clear - the end justifies the means?  I don't think so.  How can you not see what you've become?  Liberals used to protect the constitution, and the liberties it ensured.  Now their religion is government, they worship it, see the constitution as an obstacle to effective governance, an impediment to doing what is needed to be done for the greater good, determined by...

    Do you recognize it is possible to support policies without supporting the politician?  I don't think you all can have policy debates anymore, so much hate, intolerance, and bigotry has filled your world view.

    These are all very flowery and persuasive sentiments... But I notice you haven't elaborated on even one specific thing you think liberals are doing which is unconstitutional, hateful or bigoted. 

    Almost as if there really aren't any.

  11. 1 hour ago, winsor said:

    It is ironic that many of the people who laud the virtues of reabsorbing the Confederacy at bayonet point are all in favor of backing breakaway republics hither and yon (Kosovo et al.).

    Some people can tell the difference between an oppressed population seeking self determination and an oppressive ruling class seeking to continue oppressing and subjugating.

    And some people are clueless.

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    11 hours ago, billvon said:

    To a conservative, Brent effectively is his family.  He determines what people drive, what they do, and how they live.  So when Gowlerk talks about what Brent's family might do, Coreece sees it as telling Brent what to do with his family.

    Though for the sake of balance Brent himself has been very clear that his wife is an independently successful woman making her own decisions, vehicular and otherwise (IIRC).

  13. 1 hour ago, kallend said:

    I've jumped with Winsor and even gave a joint seminar with him at Quincy.    He's OK.

    I haven't, so I can only go by the stuff he chooses to tell us. If he doesn't really believe the racist, pro-confederacy stuff he posts that's his problem, not mine.

  15. 38 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

    No, but I also think he enjoys leash jerking albeit with a tad more flair and finesse than others here. Hence, your assertion that the transpiration of those events somehow "kills him" strikes me a simple needling for no reason.

    Winsor has a habit of posting staggeringly racist things, and a habit of defending the Confederacy as the unjustly injured party. My assertion is a pretty straightforward 'if x then y' of Winsor's own words. 

    By contrast, you have absolutely nothing to say about the topic as per usual and are simply posting an ad hom that serves no purpose than to be an ad hom, as you often do with several different people here. The needling is entirely yours and entirely pointless.

  17. 8 hours ago, winsor said:

    Hey, we freely joined then freely left the Union.  What's the problem?

    If the Confederacy wasn't attacked, slavery couldn't have survived into the 20th century.

    But it just kills you they couldn't stretch it out a bit longer.

  18. 25 minutes ago, Coreece said:

    Was that really so hard to parse?

    Absolutely, 100% yes it was. 
     

    Honestly right, when you said this “oh wait, making a sex tape with an underage minor is perfectly legal?“ did you seriously think people would understand that you actually meant any of what you said above? Of course they wouldn’t.

     

    So, is it really so hard to just say what you mean?

  19. 5 hours ago, Coreece said:

    Just curious, Did it even cross your mind that perhaps making a sex tape with a minor might actually be illegal even if the sex is legally consentual,

    Then what in the actual fuck was your point?

  20. 2 hours ago, brenthutch said:

    Now you are just making things up. I never said climate change is not real. I have said repeatedly that the climate changes and the earth has been warming, on and off since the last ice age. What I HAVE said is that natural variability overpowers and obscures any role CO2 may play in the warming and what role CO2 does play is largely beneficial (a literal greening of the planet)

    Now you’re making stuff up because that’s not what I said you said. You specifically said you CAN’T HAVE natural variability and global warming. You said it could only possibly be one or the other. And not just once, you’ve said over an over again that CO2 arming can’t be real if one year is ever colder than the year before. So again, why should anyone listen to anything you say about climate?

     

    But hey, if we do talk about your article what do we have? You, Mr Free Market uber alles guy saying hey look at all these farmers mad that their diesel subsidies were taken away - this is what happens when idealism hits reality! But… it’s your idealism being protested against, isn’t it?

  21. 2 hours ago, brenthutch said:

    https://www.newstatesman.com/comment/2024/02/europe-consensus-climate-crumbling
    As I have been saying for years, when the abstract concept of “saving the planet” runs into the economic reality of financial survival, the rush of de-carbonization will shut down quicker than Joe Biden’s brain at a press conference.

    Yeah, but you also said El Niño / La Niña was impossible if climate change was real - so why should anyone care what else you have to say?

  22. 2 hours ago, brenthutch said:

    Nothing brings folks together like calling half of the country far-right MAGA extremists and blaming them for all of the country’s problems 

    As Joe says, it’s nowhere near half - but the number there are have very effectively taken over the party structure that is supposed to be representing the half that they are part of. 
     

    So when you have the hugely disproportionate control over policy from a group of people so extreme it’s and divisive that they call Liz Fucking Cheney part of the liberal machine, what are you supposed to do? Not call it out, and just let them get in with it because making waves is bad?

  23. 1 hour ago, Erroll said:

    Check and balance?? One of the biggest  hypocrites    in Congress!

    As much as Mitch McConnell damaged politics, pulled the levers of power to create policies and structure grossly at odd with the democratic will of the people, and fostered the unchecked growth of extremism in the GOP… he is at least a sane person who understands that government is important and at some point you have to be willing to compromise if the only alternative is a government that does not work at all. 
     

    So while he is a better devil than the ‘burn it all down if we don’t get what we want because total victory is the only thing that matters’ crazy MAGA person who might succeed him, it is also largely his fault that his successor might be such a person.

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  24. 1 minute ago, JoeWeber said:

    How can you know that? If you do know that then you would also know why, wouldn’t you?

    So you consciously decided that engaging with the topic of any thread on this forum would not interest you, and you did this instead? Why is that?