Calvin19

he was jokeing... the tower we wer talking about was 75'

GAINERS!!!! yeah... why didnt i think of that? shit, we should just head to the gash, thats like a bridge right?

I know, i just hate the jump number theories. forgive my agressivness. im kinda just trying to be funny, and poke a bit of fun... but i really hope that guy is flying again. no one will ever ground me. EVER. i mean that in all ways. The choice should be every skidivers for himself, maybe some students dont yet know the risks of something, and need to be told, but i will never ground or be grounded. I am a jumper, and my freinds are jumpers. I am also a jump pilot, and as long as your reserve is in date, and as long as you promise not to take the tail off my airplane, i will drop you. (and if you dont HAVE a reserve, have a talk with me, and we will work something out) cheers, i am done with this. i wish you all a good year of jumping.

"In the end...I dunno...but I think it'll depend on the person and how well they handle fear. " perfect. with that, I am done. I wish a good year to all skydivers. be well freinds. i leave you with a picture... i believe it speaks for itself cheers

"I was wondering, what does the lights in the antenas means?? are there any diference if they are red or white?? or if they blink or they are static?? " For all immediet purposes, comming from a commercial pilot and a jumper. No, they dont mean shit. other than dont fly into me. but good friend of mine once said "dude... its got a flashing light, it has to be jumpable."

"Go read up on the Phoenix Fly instructional program" thats why i got a V1, a bad ass suit from a company that believes in progression.

there you go! attaching jump numbers to this shit again! im out. but i really want to know: WHO THE HELL GAVE A BMI THE AUTHORITY TO GROUND SOMEBODY? ////////// -SPACE-

"would pound in." what a nice way to put it. we have all punded in. what i mean is a bit more, well, sharp. when a person hits the water from that bridge without a parachute, or without most of a parachute, it kinda sounds like a Bat hitting a baseball for a home run, without the satisfying acoustics of a lousiville slugger, instead you get the impression the batter just got beamed in the head with a 101mph fastball and no helmet. blue skies!

Aye... i stand corrected, and rightfully so. i also agree that i could have learned to fly better/farther/faster if i had an experienced pilot flying with me... but i did not have to pay for my instructors slot plus 50 bucks for groundschool (or whatever it costs) I know there are some BMI/phoenix/matter instructors that give free training, but my dropzone was cursed with the most annoying butch of an actual BMI, that knew nothing about wingsuits or how they flew, and charged a lot of money and was very exclusive to who she taught. I outflew her in my GTI on my 10th wingsuit jump. But i still say you pull his liscense.

OK... um... im trying to explain... I think a lot of BASE wuffos (as in total wuffos and skydivers) think BASE is more dangerous than it really is. (i also think there is some that think the opposite) BASE jumpers understand why people are dieing in their sport, and how reliable the gear is. this is my resoning in saying that BASE jumpers would vote BASE, and Skydivers would vote skydive.

"Also one common theme in most sports is participants think they are doing something safe. So it is pretty easy to guess that many BASE folks think they are safe and that it would be safer. " Thats exactly what i mean... BASE jumpers understand the gear more, understand its reliagbility, and that ALL errors are human... same as skydivers do. Skydivers create an illusion of safety themselves... I KNOW base is extremely dangerous. but i dont think it is the death sport that a lot of old school skydivers think it is. If this question was asked on a strict survivability rate, as in done 10,000 times, how many fatalities would there be, i would bet that the BASE jump would have fewer. (If the PC was handheld) if the PC was stowed, i bet 1 in 10 would ride it in.

AYE! your correct... my mistake, thanks for pointing that out... i will edit... but i guess i already got my use out of this poll. I think BASE jumpers understand their sport more... and they have more faith in it, i think BASE might be a four letter word to a lot of skydivers.

"If one is to go to so much effort with a tracking suit why not use a Prodigy? " cause these kids are outflying prodigys... maybe a wingsuit is a deadend for the best glide ratio... i dont really think so, but the idea is interesting. My V1 is still in the mail, and i am in the middle of making my own design tracking suit...

I never saw the use for BMIs in the first place. i mean seriously... what do they do? pull the BMIs certificate for a month, and put it on his perminant official BMI record, at the center for BMI malpractice investigation headquarters in DC. ---not an attack, while i understand the need to teach people to fly a wingsuit, there is NOTHING a BMI can do in the air other than observe and later give pointers. i never had one. just a freind who happened to have a GTI that fit me. now i have 3 suits, and would teach anybody who was willing and able to learn. who the hell gave BMIs the authority to ground somebody?

correct, the PC is already out of the BOC for a handheld, all the student has to do is let go of it...... before 4 seconds

"You will not live long enough to learn by trial and error. " Wrong. You just need a bit more trial/thinking and less error. I learned every sport i still do in that fashion alone, except for skydiving, and flying airplanes. where training is required by the rules. I took No FJC for Base, i taught myself how to hangglide,(built my own hang gliders), taught ourselves how to paraglide. we taught ourselves how to rope jump, practicaly re-invented it, i never got even a 5 minute talk on how to fly a wingsuit, never had a coach jump in my life, will never charge anybody for one. now i have 130 base jumps, 55 hours in hang gliders, 10 hours in paragliders, 1700+ rope jumps, 47 wingsuit skydives, and 180 freefly jumps, out of 380 skydives. while i think schools that teach these things are important, i think that they can be avoided if a person understands the risks involved in a sport. I believe in formal training, for most people. I would not learn to fly airplanes any other way.

thats all cool stuff, i really wish i had learned that way, figuring it out on my own.

So, i was wondering, how many people out there learned how to skydive without any formal training(NON-AFF, static line, military, etc) as in were taught by freinds out of small airplanes without student gear. I dont mean just freinds who happened to be AFF instructors... i mean real deathcamp. As in a few hours of explaning on the ground and going and launching a 3 way ................... -SPACE-

how far are you from boulder?

no shit.

Negative, The 3 freinds i jump with now regularly all learned SLP, in colorado. AFF is a USPA thing.

HAHA im so glad i started this thread. it was a total joke in the start, but then this morning, at 8 grand, sit flying, i thought... what if i was naked? cheers.

"but I'll be talking about the good old days when the sport was still romantic." BASE is picking up speed. I havent figured out yet Jaap, if we are the last of a generation, or the first of the next. I think i would be Ok with either. "Sleeping around is generally frowned upon." ?*****

A good Argument... Nice thumbnail... Did you pick up the complete collection? it is beautiful

"Air Force teaches their students that exact method for their first skydive. Days and days of classroom learning and theory and then they do a 10 second delay solo for thier first jump. The program works from all accounts due to the massive amounts of training. " My exact basis for this post -SPACE-