Calvin19

yeah, and fly clean, wingsuits are pretty loud, and if their canopy is not that fast, they will hear you...

Ron, buddy, i know there are a ton of things i dont know about jumping, especialy wingsuiting. i do have a few wingsuit dives... and im just trying to say that twisting up your panties for being able to see a wingsuiter while your under canopy through binoculars is probably not worth bursting the capilaries in your forehead... there is a big difference between "holy shit that was to close for comfort" and "wait... um... is he... yeah! hes wearing a wingsuit! Im telling!" now, dont threaten to break my nose... you might get this forum locked up as well... im just playing with all of this, ron. we are all pals right? seriously... we are argueing online... its just something to do on a windy day... deep breaths...

[Is there a reason why fighters does not slalom around commercial flight? Does is have to do with FAA or just common sense? dude... have you ever flown a fighter? (being good freinds with more than a few, retired and current, i have heard some great stories of "target practice" with commercial airliners"[not LIVE target practice you idiots... just radar locks/slaloming]) there are cooler things to slalom than parachutes. (im not a Fighter pilot, but some of the planes i fly come close enough) ps... its too windy to fly right now just tried to take off... wasnt happening

[The big sky theory works, till it doesn't. just like condoms...

of course 1/4 mile is a ridiculous figure... im not worried about it because i was jokeing and this forum does nothing but point out to me why i do everything i can to avoid drop zones and use my crews own planes to skyjump. of course... then i dont have gates (tandems) when i do jump at a dz, i will fly a bit closer than a quarter freaking mile to canopies, i am sorry, i will pull at 2000', and i will be perfectly safe about it. i doubt all the skydivers panties will get twisted, because even 500' is a hell of a long way, and they wont even see me. this kinda reminds me of the skier/snowboarder wars and arguments... skiers thought snowboarders were getting too close, and that they were scary... they thought they should have their own, seperate mountains. ....the horror... and im even a skier

dude, this is the dumbest thing you ever did as a kid thread- that sounds like the coolest! of course... you didnt see the crash... the wings were pretty cool, but im lucky as hell to be here. someday i will put the crash footy in a BASE film of mine and post it here... -SPACE-

HOOOOLLLLYYYY SHIIITTT.... so, now that we got into threats... im done here, im going flying. anybody with me? i hope nobody dies from a canopy/wingsuit wrap. but i hope we dont kill eachother from almost wraping more.

are you saying there are pilots good enough to do this? or i am just a crappy wingsuiter?

nore are they watching where they are going, a wingsuiter is (hopefully) paying attention to where he is flying, not consentrating on who he just tracked away from and such. Im not talking about buzzing, im talking about wingsuits flying toward the dropzone after a flight.

and did i say anything about buzzing? umm...no... i didnt.

even when somebody is falling perfectly, they are still within 500' of other freefallers on the jump run. (think about it... jump aircraft speed, delay between groups...)

guys... me and scarlett have been together for years... now back off, seriously. she is my age anyway you oldtimers. besides, she would only go after a BASE jumper.

do you people (voteing a quarter mile) have any idea how far away a quarter mile is? it would take a wingsuiter more than 8 seconds to actualy collide with you if they were even on a collision course... seriously WTF? i wasnt even going to put it as an option... i did as a joke... wow... i hope the ones who put it as their vote are jokeing

please note that devils' advocates usualy work for the devil

keep in mind how far away from the other freefallers you are when you are opening, and at what altitudes. keep in mind that wingsuiters have the dominant position... elevated and in control...

AHHHH!!!!! okalb!!!! do i have to bring all the stuff up again? blabla blabla... How close is a buzz job... GRRRR!!!!! i hate skydivers...

Designing, building, test flying, and soaring my own hang gliders. i built 2, one i crashed horribly, the other i still fly. im only 21 years old now, that was only 6 years ago when i built the first... the second was finished when i was 17. it flies great! not a competition glider by any means... but it goes. and i did a ton of rope jumping back then... still do but our old systems were sketch

what the FAA dont know, cant hurt them.

Actually that sounded like a personal attack. im banning you for 2 weeks.

"That is very easy to say when you are the car. I am sure the cones feel otherwise. " Thats Great! Of course, a cone doesnt dice a car into several peices while raining blood and organs over a bunch of the cones' family members who have video cameras when the car hits the cone... I have no idea who that helps... i guess cones are fun to hit with a car. tandem canopies are not. so i stay a bit farther away from them. but i still call them gates. ................

I meant to add that... couldnt agree more. if one flies close to canopies, but makes the flight path as to be sure that there is no way one can wrap, then i would say its pretty safe. But i do put myself in this situation intentionaly... there is no reason i see not to, relative motion is the only way to learn. and skydiving RARELY gives any relative motion. in fact, every rule in skydiving is designed to avoid relative motion...pull high... match flight paths for RW, etc If you think about it... on jump run, aircraft traveling at say 50-100mph. zero wind, 5 second delays between groups. this puts anywhere between 250' and 500' between freefall paths, if people track at any angle towards the groups in front and behind them, they are even closer. so... since we cant even see the other groups... and dont tell me you have never drifted... i would say a pass from 500' from a wingsuit is not only perfectly safe, but routine.

seriously... this is needed.

HEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!! (calvin stands on a chair and waves his hands in the croud) ok, so we really need to decide what is a buzzjob. because some of you anti buzzjob people are making it seem like we probuzzjob people are trying to kill you with head to heads and 20' unplanned swoops. Im sorry, i just might pass within 500'of you while your under canopy, simply because you lay in my flight path. if thats a buzz job and is unsafe... we should probably segragate wingsuit and freefall dropzones, because im sorry, thats retarded. SOO... lets decide what a buzzjob is because all you are argueing over nothing at the moment. what do you say?

[ P.S. Anywhere between 4k and 300', depending on the gear and DZ particulars. A small elliptical canopy easily adds 2k to the comfort zone, then Skyhook shaves 1k off that. A BASE rig puts it in a different league alltogether (yes, there are plenty of places that allow or tolerate that). Finally a DZO can give or take a couple of grand

Why did you pick this altitude for D-baged packjob limit? just wondering, usualy my rule is 2000' for freepacked, and whether im wingsuiting or not. to me, a dbag is the scariest thing inthe world. and i would rather skip that step when pulling at 300'